DUST Search - why the amarr faction is losing

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Faction warfare cannot truly be effected by Dust players so long as any random scrub can enter into it. There will always be a tidal wave of bad players filling up deployment slots, thus making the vast majority of most matches random.

The deciding factor then becomes who is initiating more attacks, and that will always come back to EVE pilots as the deciding factor.

Your efforts are futile and Dust FW is nothing but a roleplayers sideshow, or for people who enjoy really bad lag.

If our FW system became less dependent upon EVE attacks, we could actually effect it somewhat. But even if we could, why bother until there is a better reward system in place?

And not true, the effects are stunning at the moment. Minmatar and Gallente using the broken system to exploit the exceptionally short plexing times while Amarr suffer through incredibly long plexing times.

You need to wake the **** up Himiko, Dust does a hell of a lot for FW that you are ignorant of. It really skews the balance.

It is a fact that most matches are determined randomly due to luck of the draw and not an actual coordinated squad-based effort, and it is a fact that at any given point in time one side of EVE FW is offensively plexing more than the other side by a large margin, thus determining how many offensive "coin flips" are going on in Dust.

I don't need to wake up to anything, you do. You are nothing more than a pebble trying to divert a river. If you want the enemy to stop plexing, here's a thought.... kill them. Learn the mechanics, k thx bye.


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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2586	Posted - 2013.10.05 21:03:00 - [1] - Quote As Aisha and True Adamance have stated, the reasoning is not because the Minmatar are winning 99% of all battles, but because the system is inherently flawed. Here are two threads on it, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112974 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1355118#post1355118 The first is when we discover what is wrong, and the second is more to point it out and explain how to fix it. What happens is for instance Minmatar and Amarr are both issuing out the same number of attack contracts on districts, regardless of who has the most control. The problem with this is as one side begins to gain a slight majority of districts, it begins to snowball into a massive majority that the losing side cannot escape. Right now we are in the situation where the Amarr only ever own on average 4 to 10 districts, meanwhile the Minmatar own in the range of hundreds. So say the Amarr out 10 attack contracts, our efforts will be spread thin over these districts while in the same time the Minmatar would have issued out 10 attack contracts on our 4 to 10 districts, a huge concentrated effort. Essentially, as soon as we gain a new district the Minmatar relentless attack it until it's theirs again, and these attacks come immediately after each other. Same thing happening with Caldari and Gallente.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2586	Posted - 2013.10.05 21:08:00 - [2] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Faction warfare cannot truly be effected by Dust players so long as any random scrub can enter into it. There will always be a tidal wave of bad players filling up deployment slots, thus making the vast majority of most matches random. The deciding factor then becomes who is initiating more attacks, and that will always come back to EVE pilots as the deciding factor. Your efforts are futile and Dust FW is nothing but a roleplayers sideshow, or for people who enjoy really bad lag. If our FW system became less dependent upon EVE attacks, we could actually effect it somewhat. But even if we could, why bother until there is a better reward system in place? And not true, the effects are stunning at the moment. Minmatar and Gallente using the broken system to exploit the exceptionally short plexing times while Amarr suffer through incredibly long plexing times. You need to wake the **** up Himiko, Dust does a hell of a lot for FW that you are ignorant of. It really skews the balance. It's really a load of BS how much the Minmatar and Gallente have been benefiting EVE-side because of a mistake by CCP Dust-side. Really the plexing bonuses should have been removed ASAP until Dust side FW is fixed (which honestly should also include resetting district ownership since it would be unfair for Minmatar and Gallente to start with 99% ownership, but heck I'd even be willing to work our way out of that hole if CCP made it even remotely possible).
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2590	Posted - 2013.10.05 21:44:00 - [3] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Faction warfare cannot truly be effected by Dust players so long as any random scrub can enter into it. There will always be a tidal wave of bad players filling up deployment slots, thus making the vast majority of most matches random. The deciding factor then becomes who is initiating more attacks, and that will always come back to EVE pilots as the deciding factor. Your efforts are futile and Dust FW is nothing but a roleplayers sideshow, or for people who enjoy really bad lag. If our FW system became less dependent upon EVE attacks, we could actually effect it somewhat. But even if we could, why bother until there is a better reward system in place? And not true, the effects are stunning at the moment. Minmatar and Gallente using the broken system to exploit the exceptionally short plexing times while Amarr suffer through incredibly long plexing times. You need to wake the **** up Himiko, Dust does a hell of a lot for FW that you are ignorant of. It really skews the balance. It is a fact that most matches are determined randomly due to luck of the draw and not an actual coordinated squad-based effort, and it is a fact that at any given point in time one side of EVE FW is offensively plexing more than the other side by a large margin, thus determining how many offensive "coin flips" are going on in Dust. I don't need to wake up to anything, you do. You are nothing more than a pebble trying to divert a river. If you want the enemy to stop plexing, here's a thought.... kill them. Learn the mechanics, k thx bye. Which faction in EVE is offensive plexing has no effect on which faction in Dust gets an offensive contract or a defensive contract. Look, yeah some people here obviously have a bias towards one of the factions that's been getting destroyed in district ownership for over a month, but you have to stop being so closed minded and assuming that is what this is all about. I mean, we've even had FoxFour confirm that this design flaw we talked about is happening.