John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:05:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:I sometimes wonder if people think there is a finite amount of WP/SP to be given in each match and somehow if we go negative but still get 1500 WP we are stealing points from them. That's the most amusing QQ, WTF U DYED MOAR Y U GET POINTZ? It's probably placement on the Scoreboard. Some have claimed each person's WPs goes into determining percentages of the ISK payout. My brake-even for deaths in a match is very dependent on placement since the cheapest heavy fit is 60k isk. Meanwhile the Minja and Medic seem to have no problem making good ISK regardless of placement, although they are cheaply fitted. Some AR Slayers are running pricey fits. Bleeding isk (possibly KDR) while seeing someone above making what is thought to be pure profit can cause resentment if they feel the logi didn't pull their weight.
I guess but the obvious counter argument is that if I went negative, are you sure it's profit? Logi crap ain't cheap, especially since there's no really good reason to run anything higher than a GEK at the moment, I doubt most well thought out slayer fits are that expensive, it's always been the cost of the duvolles driving assault fit cost previously. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.10.06 15:25:00 -
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote:equipment WP is too dam high this is a fps dammit killing is #1 i love my logis but when i go 14/4 and they do 1/3 and top the board it itches my ass
I'm going to be optimistic and assume that's sarcasm, and use it to make my usual points in these lame threads.
Theres a reason you see statements like "recruiting logis", and not "recruiting AR assaults" on the corp recruitment boards. Smart corporations know our value and scarcity. In close FW matches with my corp I frequently go, say, 3/5 - 5/7 and end up #2-3 on the board (not #1 often, my CEO usu goes 25/6 or something, tough to beat that as a logi!) with around 1500-2000 WP. How? B/c I'm a good goddamn logi:
- I carry a lower tier weapon or less eHP to make room for my equipment (except my AV fit, I do like hunting tanks/dropships with my proto swarms... I'm an amarr logi, what can I say)
- I constantly watch the map and killfeed to see where the battle is moving to anticipate where spawn points and ammo will be needed. If there's time I drop other links behind our lines to keep us from getting outflanked.
- I cut across front lines to establish new beachheads or fortify one someone else made.
- I go negative b/c I do a lot of it without cover or backup wearing a slow suit with a big yellow bullseye on it. Snipers love me, it seems.
- Everyone else on my team can go about their business without being distracted by any of these, yes, logistical matters because I take care of it for them and free them up to do all the killing you all hold so dear.
- Importantly, if we win big or I'm on a weak team that gets protostomped, I get far less WP b/c my services are not as helpful.
A lot of work most people never see goes into those WP. The equipment just appears and everyone who isn't a logi thinks all you need to do is blunder around flinging them about randomly. Some people do that, I guess, but unless its a domination match where you are literally the only one with any uplinks, it's not easy mode, and you certainly aren't going to get 2000 WP. Sure, if you need to supplement your WP income, you can get some cheap points carrying uplinks or a needle on an assault suit, and a bad logi can sometimes pull 3-500 with zero thought, but if that guy is above you atop the leaderboard, it's time to git gud, chief.
Three things to remember next time your epeen suffers b/c a logi with fewer kills gets more WP:
1) You probably would have gotten less kills without them around
2) If you take away the rewards for this class, even fewer people will do it, so no ammo/reps for you!
3) They didn't steal any WP/SP from you, there is not a finite amount that gets awarded each match. ISK I'm not sure but whatever, ISK isn't that hard to get if you aren't a tanker or a tryhard who always has to run proto to succeed.
..... The more you know |