Beers I love to see that you're posting the reasons for irc logs, but since you are quoteing logs heres the full one since you greeted everyone. http://pastebin.com/QjcfiRLi

And I'm saying if you want to post logs Post the logs. don't just take parts, if you want to highlight the part you want to highlight do it, but give the context, all of it

"[CCP]Logibro> So please. Call me when you get a good idea. :) "

I laughed

This is what i'll be thinking regarding cpp, on the 4th when im downloading the battlefield beta

Just like Obama saying he will listen to the republicans when they have good ideas. Good ideas = agreeing with Obama ideas

Well it seemed (from my perspective) that you weren't listening to what IWS had to say and kept hammering away at promoting your own agenda while also being somewhat snide in some comments.

Just like Obama saying he will listen to the republicans when they have good ideas. Good ideas = agreeing with Obama ideas

Your opinion of "REPEAL upcoming vehicle changes before they go into effect and start over from scratch!" sounds very familiar.

I can't quite place it.

You doing it again.

There are ways to get your point across. You seemed agitated. You seemed as if IWS was in some black room and you were a cop questioning him for murder. You didn't express your point in a calm manner. Any person who has been on the internet longer than two weeks know that you have to construct your ideas in a fashion that is not crass.

Then when LB made his comment...you went into full Ahole mode and started saying "when Dust dies" and all that crap...

Who's going to want to listen to that? Others couldn't speak because of your tirade. Any smart person can read that whole chat and see how in a few exchanges the dark clouds started rolling in and the mood was becoming hostile.

It's about tact. If you want people to listen to you, you have to listen them as well. You have to be prepared to receive criticism. You spoke as if your words were the absolute truth and whole.

And I don't give a **** what you call me really or what you think I am. Stop acting like a 4 yr old and grow up some...

stop trying to defend logibro here he wasn't involved in the discussion. it was unprofessional and uncalled for that doesn't change. so please call me more names if it makes you feel better.

stop trying to defend logibro here he wasn't involved in the discussion. it was unprofessional and uncalled for that doesn't change. so please call me more names if it makes you feel better.

LOL calling you a 4 year old isn't calling you a name!!!

Hilarious facepalm moment brought to you by...

stop trying to defend logibro here he wasn't involved in the discussion. it was unprofessional and uncalled for that doesn't change. so please call me more names if it makes you feel better.

"Then when LB made his comment...you went into full Ahole mode" <------------ this is the comment I was referring too.

Second you made my point. I went full "ahole" after logibro made his comment.

thanks for backing my position.

PS I am a 4 year old girl but that's why you flirt with me so :-)

"Then when LB made his comment...you went into full Ahole mode" <------------ this is the comment I was referring too.

Second you made my point. I went full "ahole" after logibro made his comment.

thanks for backing my position.

PS I am a 4 year old girl but that's why you flirt with me so :-)

Not when you ask tough questions they don't want to answer.

It's not about "good ideas" its only about agreeing with their ideas. This is the reason dust has struggled from the start. They refuse to listen to ideas other than their own. Nothing has changed since cmdr wang told us last year he doesn't have to listen to us

[CCP]Logibro> To be frank, you haven't said anything useful for a very long time.
Ironwolf> 8 months now
[CCP]Logibro> So for the most part, I just take what you say with a grain of salt.
[CCP]Logibro> If you come up with some decent constructive critisim or good ideas, I'll listen.
[CCP]Logibro> But while you continue to try to make DUST something that it isn't going to be, I'm not going to worry about what you're saying.
[CCP]Logibro> Not worth my time to even think about it.
[CCP]Logibro> So please. Call me when you get a good idea. :)


All I asked that brought this on is "ccp is missing the main issues regarding vehicle balance". My point is that simplifying vehicles by changing some attributes doesn't solve the bigger problems with vehicles. Maps and sockets are great in theory and fun for infantry to play but tanks seem to have broke the model.

Go back to crater lake map summer 2012 and if you were attacking you could increase you chances of winning buy using tanks (yes they were OP and ccp removed that game mode) but tanks had purpose then more than they do now. you are either anti infantry or anti vehicle these days and either ways its just about kills. You can change all the attributes you want but it wont give tanks purpose

when the person complaining about not being listened to is complaining about it with using an alt account, i really can't buy into him being serious.

CCP do what you get paid to do not get told by people who think they know because half the people on this forum are out right stupid.

Not when you ask tough questions they don't want to answer.

It's not about "good ideas" its only about agreeing with their ideas. This is the reason dust has struggled from the start. They refuse to listen to ideas other than their own. Nothing has changed since cmdr wang told us last year he doesn't have to listen to us

[CCP]Logibro> To be frank, you haven't said anything useful for a very long time.
Ironwolf> 8 months now
[CCP]Logibro> So for the most part, I just take what you say with a grain of salt.
[CCP]Logibro> If you come up with some decent constructive critisim or good ideas, I'll listen.
[CCP]Logibro> But while you continue to try to make DUST something that it isn't going to be, I'm not going to worry about what you're saying.
[CCP]Logibro> Not worth my time to even think about it.
[CCP]Logibro> So please. Call me when you get a good idea. :)


All I asked that brought this on is "ccp is missing the main issues regarding vehicle balance". My point is that simplifying vehicles by changing some attributes doesn't solve the bigger problems with vehicles. Maps and sockets are great in theory and fun for infantry to play but tanks seem to have broke the model.

Go back to crater lake map summer 2012 and if you were attacking you could increase you chances of winning buy using tanks (yes they were OP and ccp removed that game mode) but tanks had purpose then more than they do now. you are either anti infantry or anti vehicle these days and either ways its just about kills. You can change all the attributes you want but it wont give tanks purpose

Honestly, listening to the ideas of the player community is whats ruined Dust at the moment "Nerf this" they did "buff this" they did and where are we now?

For the time being lets let the game developers do what they want with their game since at the end of the day that IS what matters, what THEY want THEIR game to be, not us. We just need to let CCP work at the game and we just need to comment on what they do.

I gave it context. Logibro responded to someone and I asked him why he was up and continued the discussion with ironwolf. next thing logibro whom I have never attacked decided it was okay to attack me personally. Look I get it ccp doesn't like me but so what you don't get to yell and the customer when he didn't do anything and play it off with a smile. Its unprofessional and just reinforces the idea that ccp doesn't listen when you don't agree with them.