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xxwhitedevilxx M
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:41:00 -
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I's so obvious that I'm scared when people do not agree that kb makes you strafe much faster and if you consider that ds3 turn speed is not as efficient as mouse turn speed, you must agree that these two devices can't coexist. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:50:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:SteelDark Knight wrote:Keyboard = 100% or 0% movement.
DS3 = Analog or varying degrees of movement and speed. 0% up to 100%
Strafing as well as a lot of other things are affected by this (Tankers know what I mean). I don't know what is so hard for people to understand about this. Are they just in denial? Are they purposefully trying to deceive people into thinking there is no advantage when, to anyone with a discerning eye, the advantage is as obvious as the difference between 12 noon and 12 midnight? I'm not deceiving anyone ... i using the DS3 now, i haven't touch the mouse for about 2 weeks, and i truly enjoying using it. My scores haven't change, if anything they are a bit better now... because i can actually JUMP now, and reload.. and.. well much easier. The aim-assist is helping me a lot with the transition. You have created this illusion in you head, everyone that kills you is using Kb/m.
You can easily say when someone's using a kb/m or a ds3 just let's be honest. In Dust, no matter what, you can't strafe as fast as a keyboard.
And well, if you're doing the same score using a ds3 you're just bad at using kb/m in fps. I know people (no names ;) ) who never played any kind of fps both on PC or PS3 and they actually do great on Dust just because they're using kb/m ( majority of Eve community ) |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:05:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:SteelDark Knight wrote:Keyboard = 100% or 0% movement.
DS3 = Analog or varying degrees of movement and speed. 0% up to 100%
Strafing as well as a lot of other things are affected by this (Tankers know what I mean). I don't know what is so hard for people to understand about this. Are they just in denial? Are they purposefully trying to deceive people into thinking there is no advantage when, to anyone with a discerning eye, the advantage is as obvious as the difference between 12 noon and 12 midnight? I'm not deceiving anyone ... i using the DS3 now, i haven't touch the mouse for about 2 weeks, and i truly enjoying using it. My scores haven't change, if anything they are a bit better now... because i can actually JUMP now, and reload.. and.. well much easier. The aim-assist is helping me a lot with the transition. You have created this illusion in you head, everyone that kills you is using Kb/m. You can easily say when someone's using a kb/m or a ds3 just let's be honest. In Dust, no matter what, you can't strafe as fast as a keyboard. And well, if you're doing the same score using a ds3 you're just bad at using kb/m in fps. I know people (no names ;) ) who never played any kind of fps both on PC or PS3 and they actually do great on Dust just because they're using kb/m ( majority of Eve community ) The mouse is unusable at the moment, the DS3 is 10 times better.
I never said that mouse is good on Dust. I'm just telling you that mouse is better than ds3 on Dust. Let's try this. Play some battlefield 3 using your ds3. now set sensitivity at 30 / 30. Play around. You'll notice that you actually "feel" the analog stick, and when you want to look at your back it doesn't take half an hour to look back.
Now play Battlefield at 100 / 100 (like many of my mates do on BF3) and compare its sensitivity to Dust one. It is precise and fast. It is enjoyable.
But.
I clearly remember BF3 pre-closed beta. They was actually trying to put tighter kb/m and ds3 users cross platform, and well DS3 users always got owned bad. Really bad. So bad that they didn't put the two devices together at last. Moreover, consider that you can't "dance" on Battlefield, both because you don't have such a ridiculous strafe speed and because you don't have such a ridiculous amount of HP. That's another game, yes, but sometimes you have to learn from others mistakes, don't you agree? |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.10.03 10:13:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:
Seriously ... 95% of the kills i get are just awareness, tactical positioning, luck, finishing someone else kill, explosive kills, jumping in a turret at the right time... and so on. Only 5% of the kills i get are to do with the control method i using.
Mouse, DS3, Move controller.... are all just tools, and a tool it's only as effective as the person that is using it.
and, yes, you're right here. I would lower the percentage at 80 %. The other 20 % are probably ideal 1 vs 1 where, well, your input method counts as much as lag and fitting.
P14GU3 wrote:Strafing goes down in the win column for kb/m. Whereas other things you mentioned, jumping, ads, ect, come easier for sticks...
Actually, it is impossible to jump and track the target with a ds3. You jump and track much better with kb/m. The only "advantage" and not that much is that you can actually run with a grenade cooked. Only that. |
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