DUST Search - Respecs in regards to Basic Content

Rogue Saint wrote:

[quote=Jack McReady]

This is the nature of an ever changing MMO, patches are released, **** happens, things get fixed/nerfed/buffed/balanced. We will always be testers of the systems CCP produces, having a few thousand players "testing" the game through normal play will always trump an internal test team.

MMO's are about the grind, 90% of the MMO's I've played have grind somewhere to gain the edge/advantage. Sure its "horrible" but thats part of the game mechanic and if you don't like it then this type of game is not for you.

Sure CCP have made a few faux pas along the way, but they have resolved the issues pretty quick due to feedback from the community. I personally think the game is in a great position at the moment.

As time goes by everything in the game will be tweaked, to say that its a coin toss for your SP is narrow minded, your supposed to adapt you know!

Just becuase your FotM was balanced doesn't mean the game suck now, just the fact that you were happy with your crutch and can't adapt.


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Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 601	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:59:00 - [1] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: The sooner CCP introduces the game's basic content, the sooner we can rightly smack down people asking for respecs, and the sooner CCP can make balance changes within the scope of the entire game. The longer CCP takes to release this basic content, the more problems Dust will have. OK, think of it this way, if you didn't know that there was "missing basic content" and it was introduced over the next 10 years will the community cry for respecs at each content release? The way I see it, there is no missing content, the future content to be released is just that... future content! If people are stressing about having to save SP for this content then thats their problem. What if we have all the racial suits then CCP decides to release a complete new set (pirate? factional?) people will then be creating more of these bullshit threads! the problem is, not only the BASIC content is missing but major changes happen every patch and we are still testing stuff. currently you are forced to take what you have now or you have endure horrible grind but no one goes for new stuff because we know the slow development process, bugfixes take several months and that is why everyone goes for AR 514, because it is known as working. it invalidates your "decision" everytime the devs change something you have placed SP into, in short it is just a coin toss. how do you exactly decide a coin toss? shall I list all stuff that took 3-5 months to fix? seriously, a respec benefits everyone: -The players that dont want them will still take advantage of them -The players that want/need them will be happy -Some old players will come back to test new stuff -CCP gets money to go on releasing stuff -balancing process speeds up
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 605	Posted - 2013.10.02 16:04:00 - [2] - Quote I can only say that: I didn't make the decision to release Dust with basic content missing. I didn't make the decision to release broken or unbalanced content. I didn't make the decision to take several months to fix existing content. That's CCP's fault. Choices only matter if you have a choice to begin with. CCP is doing the choices currently. I was preaching this for how long? dont remember anymore, anyway this will soon also get trolled and derailed by some useless guys with tiny scrub egos because their feelings would get hurt when the community gets what they are asking for.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 605	Posted - 2013.10.02 17:37:00 - [3] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: [quote=Jack McReady] This is the nature of an ever changing MMO, patches are released, **** happens, things get fixed/nerfed/buffed/balanced. We will always be testers of the systems CCP produces, having a few thousand players "testing" the game through normal play will always trump an internal test team. MMO's are about the grind, 90% of the MMO's I've played have grind somewhere to gain the edge/advantage. Sure its "horrible" but thats part of the game mechanic and if you don't like it then this type of game is not for you. Sure CCP have made a few faux pas along the way, but they have resolved the issues pretty quick due to feedback from the community. I personally think the game is in a great position at the moment. As time goes by everything in the game will be tweaked, to say that its a coin toss for your SP is narrow minded, your supposed to adapt you know! Just becuase your FotM was balanced doesn't mean the game suck now, just the fact that you were happy with your crutch and can't adapt. not sure if troll or just a scrub... I dont remember MMOs coming without the basic content out of beta, those MMOs are a minority and they offer retraining I also would like to see in which universe 3-5 months are "resolved the issues pretty quick". I can list alot of stuff that took months to fix and some stuff is still not resolved CCP is doing decisions right now and forcing players to endure it, thats all.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 605	Posted - 2013.10.02 17:41:00 - [4] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Jack McReady wrote: not sure if troll or just a scrub... I dont remember MMOs coming without the basic content out of beta, those MMOs are a minority and they offer retraining I also would like to see in which universe 3-5 months are "resolved the issues pretty quick". I can list alot of stuff that took months to fix and some stuff is still not resolved CCP is doing decisions right now and forcing players to endure it, thats all. I would also suggest you to wake up from your tunnelvision because this does not help the game at all. I also do not need to argue with such fanboyish reply, the playercount disagrees with you, per month the playercount at primetime decreases by ~500. You have your ****-tinted glasses, I have my rose-tinted ... We will never agree, so. as mentioned ~500 players per month giving up dust due to the issues disagree with you, that is all I need to back up my claims... you just dont get that respec would speed up development till core stuff is fixed and basic content is done. we are just beta testers and beta testing gets old pretty fast when changes take 3-5 months.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 605	Posted - 2013.10.02 18:47:00 - [5] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Jack McReady wrote: as mentioned ~500 players per month giving up dust due to the issues disagree with you, that is all I need to back up my claims... you just dont get that respec would speed up development till core stuff is fixed and basic content is done. we are just beta testers and beta testing gets old pretty fast when changes take 3-5 months. So why are you banging your head against a brick wall then? Don't play, become the 501'st player to leave. Go play an off the shelf title... The game will always be beta, once you can accept that you will find your inner peace. A respec would speed up development? What are you smoking? i am trying to save the game in that you invested your mommys money. and yes, respec speeds up development, people would try out new thinks, give their feedback and CCP could collect data in the background like they always do. currently no one is giving feedback, e.g. I was the only one pushing the PLC bugs in the forum for weeks and stopped cause I am tired to do so and nobody cares. no one is going to invest SP now into new stuff due to the slow developmen, it is too risky cause you will end up with a broken toy if you are unlucky. it took the whole beta to fix hit detection issues, it took several months to fix MD hit detection, it took months to fix other issues, it will take as long with everything else and some stuff is still not balanced or fixed. also its funny how you brought the same "decision matter" argument that was already busted before plenty of times. you simply live in a dreamworld. we have no decision and this is not a sandbox MMO, all you do is shooting people in the face with the AR.