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Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 638	Posted - 2013.10.02 20:56:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hi guys, ...[/i] Gathering Data... complete! Analyzing Data... complete! Processing... Error: Unable to determine balance for Active Hardeners (fitting combinations with total CPU/PG used is varied) Error: Damage values for Blaster turrets are the same Error: Unable to determine Blast Radius values in meters Displaying response... SP REFUND CONFIRMED New vehicle stats may be ok, maintain close attention to CPU/PG and slot layouts for possible tweaks. Vehicle Command: SP requirements to apply for all vehicles seems odd, consider dividing it for one race at a time (SP for Caldari? Caldari access only). Damage Mods are now on High Slot... OH NOOOOO MUH CALDARI FITS!!!!!!!! Damage Mod CPU value should remain high to prevent high presence of Madrugars with 2 or 3 modifiers + VERY high health. Blast damage value for Small missile is too high, give 25% increase to original blast damage value and increase clip size to 10. However, if you insist on keeping new damage, make sure to tweak clip size as necessary. Blast radius value for Small missile should be 3.0 meters, 4.0 for Large. Increase Max range of Small missiles to 350, 460 for Large (Railguns have x3 range). Direct damage value for Small railgun is too low, keep original values, remove projectile dispersion, and perhaps increase the projectile speed. Are you sure you didn't mean 4-round burst for Large Missile turrets and not Full Auto like blasters? If it's 4-round burst then give it a clip size of 24.
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 638	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:22:00 - [2] - Quote The legend345 wrote: This is terrible all of it. Its SOOO BAD are you kidding me ccp? Throw all this garbage away, yes its all garbage. Throw it away and simply buff the tanks now. You guys preached how your gonna change tanking blah blah blah this is your plan? This is terrible!!! I cant even stop saying how terrible this 0_0. Tanking is all about how long you can stay in the action. Neither a shield tank or armor will be able to "stay in the action" at all. One forge shot and ill be running. I wont have the module slots to properly fit the tank. Nor will i be able to get diversity without completely eliminating a strong point. You guys are pathetic. Nobody ask for the "gameplay to get reinvented". We wanted a vehicle buff thats it lol. All you had to do was bump up a few numbers and everything would have been fine. Shield tanking is a joke all that pg for a 1000 rep xD thats not even a milta armor rep now. Then on the other end for madrugars you plan on giving us passive reps. Um maybe if the plan was to have us redline sniping. Throw this garbage out and buff what we have. This **** would take so long for you guys to fix it would be sickening. AV gonna get nerfed bro, isn't it obvious?
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 639	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:51:00 - [3] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Vehicles are losing a lot of health and flexibility. Ammo is being added on top of heat for more worries but at no benefit such as ammo selection. Shields, traditionally the anti infantry option, is now completely losing the one unique holdover from EVE - passive shield regen. Fights are getting less interesting and faster. The only successful module is the new shield injector (not really a booster with only one pulse): it is a single use situationally powerful tool that can be used once per fight. The rest are long timers on long cooldowns. While they are laudable for rewarding proactive use, they are cancerous because they are effectively forced retreats. The gameplay is to sit in timeout as your reward for winning. Win enough and you have to retreat all the way to the MCC (the only place to find a live supply depot). Is the recall mechanic going away? Because otherwise the ammo and cooldowns are pointless. Everyone would have been happy with double the health and half or even less the damage vs infantry. Instead vehicles are now disposable equipment. Hopefully the ISK price will at least match this new status. I will say, personally, while eve-lite has gone disastrously for infantry combat it would have been excitingly unique for mechanized warfare. Only in the community created masterpiece of Living Legends have I seen vehicle combat so interesting and deep as the potential DUST presented with heat and energy management. But like MWO, it is getting dumber and dumber with each iteration (need I say coolant flush?) instead of playing up it's strengths. You forgot to consider AV nerfs in CCP's update, post by OP is only about vehicles. AV thread should come in later, there's simply no way CCP could release the vehicles with AV being left untouched.
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 641	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:17:00 - [4] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: AV nerfs don't even matter. Looking at a strict vehicle vs vehicle fight it is already horrible. If you refer to the Madrugar fits you mentioned (dual rep + Hardener) then yes. Once that gets sorted (it has to right? ), if you still insist on long tank vs tank fits then all it's needed is to reduce damage on all turrets by a fixed percentage just like the infantry weapons in a earlier build.
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 641	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:38:00 - [5] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: DEVs can you Open up Singularity and your other test and development servers? It would be real fun if we could play with some of the items being developed on singularity. 100isk proto gear and 100isk suites for testing. l Plus maybe seeing some of the tanks being developed would be a nice addition. I WANT TO BELIEVE.

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