DUST Search - petion to end respecs

Void Echo wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

about your "you have to live with your choices" HAHAHAHAHA, we don't even affect the FW balance for eve online let alone anything else, what harm would we do? "it breaks the soul of the game", ok so you would rather have this game brain dead and unplayable than let everyone get interested in this game again?

We actually do affect the FW balance for EVE Online right now, if Dust-side owns a system then the plexing time in that system for EVE is reduced. Of course, not that any of that matters because no matter how big of a push the Caldari or Amarr do in Dust the system in place makes it impossible to gain ground once one side has achieved the majority.

no, that's PC not FW, and no eve pilots are interested in molden heath, if you don't believe me, look it up, there is absolutely no interest in this sector for eve pilots...

FW balance is decided solely on the eve pilots. molden heath has no eve side value, only dust side value.

No, that is FW. Trust me mate, I'm in a corp that focuses completely on FW. I've known this stuff and had it confirmed with devs for a very long time.

If Dust controls a system in FW, then that system can be plexed faster in EVE. If Dust controls a system in PC, EVE gets some other bonus that frankly I'm not concerned with as I do not care about PC.

Control of systems in FW is decided solely by EVE pilots, but (again for emphasis) Dust soldiers can provide bonuses in the form of plexing time reductions.

none of the sectors of fw are available for dust mercs in PC and therefore cannot hold land in fw. in the future this may happen but right now, we are only present in molden heath which is not part of fw.

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johnhonorcrest2 RestlessSpirits 7	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:11:00 - [1] - Quote respects are for the losers that have to play the most op **** to win. if ur not one of those players but want a respec to skill into something different nutt up or shut up and get more sp thats the point of the game. not get tired of one thing so which to another. u have to earn the sp to do that
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 712	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:13:00 - [2] - Quote We need a dislike button /new petition!
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3631	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:15:00 - [3] - Quote Xender17 wrote: We need a dislike button /new petition! So I can dislike the whiny respec demand threads? Sure.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2433	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:15:00 - [4] - Quote Petition to end people making unsupported accusations? The people I hear wanting a respec want it to specialize into scouts or some other obscure specialization or to correct mistakes where CCP has poor wording or because CCP has made substantial changes to how something works. Or, you know, because a lot of core fundamental content is missing.
johnhonorcrest2 RestlessSpirits 7	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:19:00 - [5] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Petition to end people making unsupported accusations? The people I hear wanting a respec want it to specialize into scouts or some other obscure specialization or to correct mistakes where CCP has poor wording or because CCP has made substantial changes to how something works. Or, you know, because a lot of core fundamental content is missing. im srry all i heard was why cant i have a respec i need new op cause my kd is goin down and i dont wanna wait till i have the skill ponts to earn what i want.
DildoMcnutz Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 234	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:26:00 - [6] - Quote Yeh we cant give respecs because then everyone will be able to get a medium suit and an assault rifle......oh wait, you mean everyone already has that!? Well sheet beetch guess that throws all the FOTM horsecrap out the window then.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1592	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:27:00 - [7] - Quote johnhonorcrest2 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Petition to end people making unsupported accusations? The people I hear wanting a respec want it to specialize into scouts or some other obscure specialization or to correct mistakes where CCP has poor wording or because CCP has made substantial changes to how something works. Or, you know, because a lot of core fundamental content is missing. im srry all i heard was why cant i have a respec i need new op cause my kd is goin down and i dont wanna wait till i have the skill ponts to earn what i want. im sorry, il im hearing from you is "fotm fotm fotm... that's all I can think of" people are going to leave this game when the new **** comes out mainly because of the lack of content and the refusal to allow players to refresh things by letting them skill into something else.. about your "you have to live with your choices" HAHAHAHAHA, we don't even affect the FW balance for eve online let alone anything else, what harm would we do? "it breaks the soul of the game", ok so you would rather have this game brain dead and unplayable than let everyone get interested in this game again?
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2434	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:27:00 - [8] - Quote johnhonorcrest2 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Petition to end people making unsupported accusations? The people I hear wanting a respec want it to specialize into scouts or some other obscure specialization or to correct mistakes where CCP has poor wording or because CCP has made substantial changes to how something works. Or, you know, because a lot of core fundamental content is missing. im srry all i heard was why cant i have a respec i need new op cause my kd is goin down and i dont wanna wait till i have the skill ponts to earn what i want. Poor grammar and the inability to spell, your argument is voided.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2435	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:29:00 - [9] - Quote Void Echo wrote: about your "you have to live with your choices" HAHAHAHAHA, we don't even affect the FW balance for eve online let alone anything else, what harm would we do? "it breaks the soul of the game", ok so you would rather have this game brain dead and unplayable than let everyone get interested in this game again? We actually do affect the FW balance for EVE Online right now, if Dust-side owns a system then the plexing time in that system for EVE is reduced. Of course, not that any of that matters because no matter how big of a push the Caldari or Amarr do in Dust the system in place makes it impossible to gain ground once one side has achieved the majority.
johnhonorcrest2 RestlessSpirits 8	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:31:00 - [10] - Quote srry didnt realize i had to spell correctly 10 years after high school in a world fool of kids that use things like omg and stfu as grammar get a life kid and play something else if u really think respecs will save this game

Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1592	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:33:00 - [11] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Void Echo wrote: about your "you have to live with your choices" HAHAHAHAHA, we don't even affect the FW balance for eve online let alone anything else, what harm would we do? "it breaks the soul of the game", ok so you would rather have this game brain dead and unplayable than let everyone get interested in this game again? We actually do affect the FW balance for EVE Online right now, if Dust-side owns a system then the plexing time in that system for EVE is reduced. Of course, not that any of that matters because no matter how big of a push the Caldari or Amarr do in Dust the system in place makes it impossible to gain ground once one side has achieved the majority. no, that's PC not FW, and no eve pilots are interested in molden heath, if you don't believe me, look it up, there is absolutely no interest in this sector for eve pilots... FW balance is decided solely on the eve pilots. molden heath has no eve side value, only dust side value.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 718	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:34:00 - [12] - Quote The only op guns in the game are the FG and the AR which everyone already has proficiency in so whats wrong with respecs again?
johnhonorcrest2 RestlessSpirits 8	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:34:00 - [13] - Quote btw this is a petion to end respecs not a come in hear and argue about stupid **** thread
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1592	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:35:00 - [14] - Quote johnhonorcrest2 wrote: srry didnt realize i had to spell correctly 10 years after high school in a world fool of kids that use things like omg and stfu as grammar get a life kid and play something else if u really think respecs will save this game respecs would give new interest in the current players and possibly newer players because they wouldn't be crippled in the future when something they actually want to skill into is available. none of us are saying respecs would save this game, respecs would refresh the game, the biggest thing that can save it right now is PVE.
Beforcial REAPERS REPUBLIC 26	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:36:00 - [15] - Quote Respecs will never happen not the way the SP works with the Skills in the skilltree. So people still complaining about that, just give it up. And no it won't save the game man, wtf.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1592	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:36:00 - [16] - Quote johnhonorcrest2 wrote: btw this is a petion to end respecs not a come in hear and argue about stupid **** thread there haven't been any respecs since the beginning of uprising which was around half a year ago.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2435	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:37:00 - [17] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Void Echo wrote: about your "you have to live with your choices" HAHAHAHAHA, we don't even affect the FW balance for eve online let alone anything else, what harm would we do? "it breaks the soul of the game", ok so you would rather have this game brain dead and unplayable than let everyone get interested in this game again? We actually do affect the FW balance for EVE Online right now, if Dust-side owns a system then the plexing time in that system for EVE is reduced. Of course, not that any of that matters because no matter how big of a push the Caldari or Amarr do in Dust the system in place makes it impossible to gain ground once one side has achieved the majority. no, that's PC not FW, and no eve pilots are interested in molden heath, if you don't believe me, look it up, there is absolutely no interest in this sector for eve pilots... FW balance is decided solely on the eve pilots. molden heath has no eve side value, only dust side value. No, that is FW. Trust me mate, I'm in a corp that focuses completely on FW. I've known this stuff and had it confirmed with devs for a very long time. If Dust controls a system in FW, then that system can be plexed faster in EVE. If Dust controls a system in PC, EVE gets some other bonus that frankly I'm not concerned with as I do not care about PC. Control of systems in FW is decided solely by EVE pilots, but (again for emphasis) Dust soldiers can provide bonuses in the form of plexing time reductions.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1592	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:40:00 - [18] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Void Echo wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Void Echo wrote: about your "you have to live with your choices" HAHAHAHAHA, we don't even affect the FW balance for eve online let alone anything else, what harm would we do? "it breaks the soul of the game", ok so you would rather have this game brain dead and unplayable than let everyone get interested in this game again? We actually do affect the FW balance for EVE Online right now, if Dust-side owns a system then the plexing time in that system for EVE is reduced. Of course, not that any of that matters because no matter how big of a push the Caldari or Amarr do in Dust the system in place makes it impossible to gain ground once one side has achieved the majority. no, that's PC not FW, and no eve pilots are interested in molden heath, if you don't believe me, look it up, there is absolutely no interest in this sector for eve pilots... FW balance is decided solely on the eve pilots. molden heath has no eve side value, only dust side value. No, that is FW. Trust me mate, I'm in a corp that focuses completely on FW. I've known this stuff and had it confirmed with devs for a very long time. If Dust controls a system in FW, then that system can be plexed faster in EVE. If Dust controls a system in PC, EVE gets some other bonus that frankly I'm not concerned with as I do not care about PC. Control of systems in FW is decided solely by EVE pilots, but (again for emphasis) Dust soldiers can provide bonuses in the form of plexing time reductions. none of the sectors of fw are available for dust mercs in PC and therefore cannot hold land in fw. in the future this may happen but right now, we are only present in molden heath which is not part of fw.
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 130	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:42:00 - [19] - Quote Personally, I respec'd out of vehicles completely when I had the chance and moved my nine or so million sp purely into logistics. I was intelligent enough to see the writing on the wall that CCP has no ******* clue what they want from the infantry vrs. vehicle scenario. It sucks that so many players decided to get into vehicles and are now out of the game because of terrible 'balance' passes. I've been a tank, dropship and LAV lover since the start, but I won't put a single point in until CCP proves that they have a solid grasp on the direction they want to go. In the mean time, playing logistics was fun. Now it's boring because my friends are all gone or on the sidelines. So I'm not really playing a game I'd like to play~ I support respecs only because the people designing this game are in my mind throwing darts at post-it notes as a method of deciding what to do with dust514. Switch to the headless chicken running around a grid of ideas method, CCP. Can't be worse than what we have now, plus there's a company chicken dinner every release!
johnhonorcrest2 RestlessSpirits 8	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:43:00 - [20] - Quote would u two make ur own thread holy crap way off topic here

Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2436	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:45:00 - [21] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Void Echo wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Void Echo wrote: about your "you have to live with your choices" HAHAHAHAHA, we don't even affect the FW balance for eve online let alone anything else, what harm would we do? "it breaks the soul of the game", ok so you would rather have this game brain dead and unplayable than let everyone get interested in this game again? We actually do affect the FW balance for EVE Online right now, if Dust-side owns a system then the plexing time in that system for EVE is reduced. Of course, not that any of that matters because no matter how big of a push the Caldari or Amarr do in Dust the system in place makes it impossible to gain ground once one side has achieved the majority. no, that's PC not FW, and no eve pilots are interested in molden heath, if you don't believe me, look it up, there is absolutely no interest in this sector for eve pilots... FW balance is decided solely on the eve pilots. molden heath has no eve side value, only dust side value. No, that is FW. Trust me mate, I'm in a corp that focuses completely on FW. I've known this stuff and had it confirmed with devs for a very long time. If Dust controls a system in FW, then that system can be plexed faster in EVE. If Dust controls a system in PC, EVE gets some other bonus that frankly I'm not concerned with as I do not care about PC. Control of systems in FW is decided solely by EVE pilots, but (again for emphasis) Dust soldiers can provide bonuses in the form of plexing time reductions. none of the sectors of fw are available for dust mercs in PC and therefore cannot hold land in fw. in the future this may happen but right now, we are only present in molden heath which is not part of fw. What are you talking about? I've been doing Amarr FW ever since Uprising and we fight in the Bleak Lands, Devoid, Heimatar, and Metropolis regions which are the same as in Dust. I'm not talking about PC which is only in Molden Heath, I'm talking about FW which is in the same exact places its in for EVE players. Oh wait, I think I get what you confused about. When I say if we control a system in Dust, I don't mean if a Dust player corporation controls the system in Dust. In Dust FW we fight on behalf of four NPC corporations: Federal Defense Union (Gallente), State Protectorate (Caldari), 24th Imperial Crusade (Amarr), and Tribal Liberation Force (Minmatar). Think of us as basically a bunch of ringers for these corporations. We do have an impact on EVE FW, Void Echo. I suggest you do a little bit of research on this before making more claims because I know you are smarter than this.
johnhonorcrest2 RestlessSpirits 8	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:46:00 - [22] - Quote thank u a structured reply. i have another thread on av vs vehicles if u would like to look at that aswell
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2436	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:47:00 - [23] - Quote johnhonorcrest2 wrote: would u two make ur own thread holy crap way off topic here sry dnt carebear bro, go cmplan sumwhere else bro
johnhonorcrest2 RestlessSpirits 8	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:50:00 - [24] - Quote -_-
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1592	Posted - 2013.10.02 07:17:00 - [25] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Oh wait, I think I get what you confused about. When I say if we control a system in Dust, I don't mean if a Dust player corporation controls the system in Dust. In Dust FW we fight on behalf of four NPC corporations: Federal Defense Union (Gallente), State Protectorate (Caldari), 24th Imperial Crusade (Amarr), and Tribal Liberation Force (Minmatar). Think of us as basically a bunch of ringers for these corporations. We do have an impact on EVE FW, Void Echo. I suggest you do a little bit of research on this before making more claims because I know you are smarter than this. then why do the amarr and caldari have so little land even though they are putting up a massive fight
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1592	Posted - 2013.10.02 07:18:00 - [26] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: johnhonorcrest2 wrote: would u two make ur own thread holy crap way off topic here sry dnt carebear bro, go cmplan sumwhere else bro this conversation is better than your though lol
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 592	Posted - 2013.10.02 07:38:00 - [27] - Quote johnhonorcrest2 wrote: respects are for the losers that have to play the most op **** to win. if ur not one of those players but want a respec to skill into something different nutt up or shut up and get more sp thats the point of the game. not get tired of one thing so which to another. u have to earn the sp to do that so in short: respec would hurt your little scrub ego because other people would get what they asking for dude, take your head out of your arse and wake up from your tunnelvision. this game is in beta, content is missing, core mechanic is not polished, balancing is missing, bugfixes take ages and so on. all of those things can be speed up with feedback+money but feedback+money requires TESTING+playing and testing+playing requires people to play something different than AR 514 or actually play at all. the majority is already using the AR because that is reliable and known as working perfectly in almost all situations, no one is going to risk wasting his time with investing SP into something else considering the slow development process, this bores people out of the game and keeps new players away from it. just look at the numbers of people during prime time, it started at 10k when CCP decided to remove the beta flag, it dropped to 5k 3 months ago and in the last free months it dropped from 5k to 3,5k... chances are that this game will not survive this winter, so brace yourself winter is coming! all your pseudo elitism you try to bring to this game will be worthless when CCP decides to shut down the project.
noob cavman A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 91	Posted - 2013.10.02 09:21:00 - [28] - Quote Boycotting this thread! Wanna respec into heavy and scout because 20 million in ar is BORING
Stevez Lau Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.10.02 09:31:00 - [29] - Quote johnhonorcrest2 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Petition to end people making unsupported accusations? The people I hear wanting a respec want it to specialize into scouts or some other obscure specialization or to correct mistakes where CCP has poor wording or because CCP has made substantial changes to how something works. Or, you know, because a lot of core fundamental content is missing. im srry all i heard was why cant i have a respec i need new op cause my kd is goin down and i dont wanna wait till i have the skill ponts to earn what i want. This person is correct in my opinion. Even look at the grammar difference between his post and yours. Says enough to me.


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