really? This **** again? No. HMG's already can do good damage against LAV's and Dropships, and any type of Rifles aren't made to kill vehicles.

I'm not saying that they should be able to kill vehicles at all. It's just that there is no reason to use breach weapons as most of them suck anyways. So why not have an added functionality of these weapons that makes them more useful?

Imagine if you saw an LAV heading towards you and you could actually make a dent in their hit points instead of barely doing damage. It's like using armor piercing rounds. They would still suck vs infantry as they do now, but would be more effective against vehicles, turrets, and eventually for breaching into a compound.

I'm not saying that they should be able to kill vehicles at all. It's just that there is no reason to use breach weapons as most of them suck anyways. So why not have an added functionality of these weapons that makes them more useful?

Imagine if you saw an LAV heading towards you and you could actually make a dent in their hit points instead of barely doing damage. It's like using armor piercing rounds. They would still suck vs infantry as they do now, but would be more effective against vehicles, turrets, and eventually for breaching into a compound.

So currently we have breach weapons that really don't do much for us. Even the breach assault rifle is a poor match against most weapons.

The assault variant is generally better against infantry and ground forces, so why not make the breach much more effective against taking down vehicles? Normal AV weapons already bypass the vehicle resist, so why not the breach variants?

The mass driver has an okay ability to take down militia tanks, but imagine if the breach variant became a deadly AV weapon. The Breach AR/HMG could chew through layers of an LAV.

If there's ever a game mode where we have to destroy barricades, this could be where these weapons shine as a breaching weapon as well as an okay gun with semi-decent killing power.

What do you think?

Terrible Idea. A breach forge dealing 2500 damage ignoring resistances would **** up this game far more than anything done yet. not to mention this scenario only benefits infantry and severely gimps tanks and dropships.

Terrible Idea. A breach forge dealing 2500 damage ignoring resistances would **** up this game far more than anything done yet. not to mention this scenario only benefits infantry and severely gimps tanks and dropships.

Is this the "My AR can't kill Tanks QQ" thread that was foretold in the ancient prophesies?

Terrible Idea. A breach forge dealing 2500 damage ignoring resistances would **** up this game far more than anything done yet. not to mention this scenario only benefits infantry and severely gimps tanks and dropships.

1. I stated CLEARLY that normal AV weapons already bypass natural vehicle resist. There would be no change to the breach forge.
2. I'm not talking in any way shape or form about module resistances (hardeners and such)
3. If you use a breach weapon, you sacrifice killing power to do more damage to vehicles. This means that while a player could use breach weapons to slowly take down light vehicles, they won't be able to use those same weapons to kill other players easily.

Basically, breach weapons don't kill tanks or dropships, they would just do enough damage to HELP kill them, or to at least scare them away.

Think of them like reactive plates. It combines two things into one, but doesn't exactly do either of those things better than using one or the other.

Is this the "My AR can't kill Tanks QQ" thread that was foretold in the ancient prophesies?