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Posted - 2013.10.01 06:37:00 -
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Tl;dr: The Omega boosters are comparatively very cost-inefficient and not worth it unless you got fat stacks. Most cost-efficient option is still normal active booster or active+passive by buying Mercenary Packs. Do you think a prototype infantry suit lvl 5 is worth $111? Go for the Omegas.
The spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnHcQCMUHxsddHVWelZZcmZsWk5Idll2VWFreVhSbnc&usp=sharing
I was very excited to hear that the Omega boosters were making a return. However that excitement got crushed when I logged on this morning to find out the staggering prices on them. The main results in the spreadsheet are under the 'Monthly cap reached' and 'No playing at all' sections. Please note that the calculations don't take into account daily bonuses and only running booster for a full month is considered, not using 1 or 3 day actives to cap out in a marathon. If you can do that then that is your best bet.
If you buy normal boosters the most cost efficient way to do it is to buy Mercenary packs and use the AUR to buy more boosters. If you don't spend the leftover AUR you will be able to buy an extra month of boosters every four months.
Here below are the main results of the spreadsheet:
- $0 no boosters = 1,481,600 SP/month, best if you do not want to spend money
- $8 active booster = 1,862,400 SP/month, best if you are okay with spending a little money
- $15 active + passive = 2,222,400 SP/month, here you get the most for your money
- $31 Omega passive = 2,201,600 SP/month, best if you play little or nothing
- $60 Omega active + passive = 2,963,200 SP/month, best if you got fat stacks
So to put this into perspective. Dust players have a wide variety of choices when it comes to boosters, this is good. The main options are $8 or $15 per month. $15 per month is currently pretty much the standard monthly rate for a MMO (for example Eve). Running Omega active + passive runs you for $60 per month. That's 4 subscriptions in most other games. I would be okay with it being $30 a month so you would get as much for what you pay for but at $60 it is just not worth it in my opinion.
Now players will have to ask themselves the question: is it worth it for me? To give some concrete examples what you can get extra for your money when using the Omega boosters:
- $88 = Light weapon Operations & Proficiency level 5
- $111 = Prototype infantry suit
It's a bit unrelated but I'm aware that the Mercenary Pack is going away. I however urge CCP to make another pack available that enables players to obtain the normal boosters for the same cost, that is $8 and $15 per month for active and active+passive respectively.
My proposed solution
- Scrap the Omega boosters. Make the normal boosters do 100% instead. More incentive for everyone to run boosters.
- If #1 is not doable. Reduce the price of the Omegas such that active + passive set can be obtained for $30.
I thank you for your time if. If you see any errors in the spreadsheet please let me know. |
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:50:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:I thought actives do not raise your cap, only how fast you get there. So why would you get any more SP from active unless you grinded tons of games after cap? Technically they do not increase your weekly cap but they do give you more SP, so in effect yeah they for all intents and purposes do increase your cap. Having boosters has no effect on how fast you cap out. If you have no boosters and cap out you will earn 190,400 SP/week. With a normal active booster it'd be 285,600 (50% more), with Omega active booster 380,800 (100% more).
Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Your numbers are way out. The passive omega is 65k AUR and the active omega is 17.5k, so if you ran those for a month (which would be nuts, you'd only need 2 actives to cap each week) that would cost 135k. The passive regular is 28k and the active 1 week regular (nearest equivalent to the active omega) is 7k, so if you ran those for a month that would cost 56k. So it costs 2.4 times as much to run Omegas.
But with your creative accountancy the Omegas cost $60 and the regular $15, a multiple of 4. I guess what you're doing is treating the regular boosters as at a special discount because you get them in the merc/vet/elite packs. But that's totally irrelevant. When we're considering whether the omega is good value, we're obviously asking whether it's a good way to spend the AUR we already have. For that question, the correct multiplier for the omega versus the regular is 2.4, not 4. I thank you for your criticism but if you would have taken the time to read my post in detail you would have come across this little sentence: "Please note that the calculations don't take into account daily bonuses and only running booster for a full month is considered ...". Yes you are quite correct that doing clever things with the 1,3,7 day active boosters is way more efficient but my calculations were mainly focused on the casuals that want maximum flexibility (like Zeylon Rho mentioned) and minimal commitment, hence 24/7 boosting. Given that the numbers are I believe correct, 65K AUR for Omega Passive and 4*17.5K = 70K AUR for the Omega Active, a total of 135K AUR. As the Omega boosters are not included in any PS store packs they'll have to be obtained purely by AUR. Currently the most cost efficient way to obtain AUR is via the $100 pack which gives you 225K AUR or 2250 AUR for every $1 you spend. So 135K AUR costs you 135,000 / 2250 = $60. I thank you for point ing out one error on my part. It's actually $16 but not $15 per month for normal booster. The way I obtained that number: buy 4 Mercenary Packs, you get 4x active boosters and 160K AUR which is enough to buy 4x passives + the active+passive bundle for 46.6K AUR. That means you spend $80 and get 5 months of boosters $80/5 = $16/month. I have corrected the spreadsheet and my original post. If you are only doing a one off buy then it's of course $20 but like previously stated, the calculations assume long term full boosting.
Lt Royal, I thank you kindly!
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:26:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:You have nearly 2000 likes and you still don't know how boosters work? I don't mean to sound patronising. If it's the case you've never bought them I guess you never had an incentive to care about them.
But they do increase your cap. What Wombat overlooks in his calculations is that he is using boosters in the least efficient way they can possibly be used, and then complaining about their inefficiency.
Unless you're planning on running passive Omegas for an enormous length of time, they certainly aren't worth the money. Let's get that out of the way.
But when it comes to the actives. If I had the aurum, I'd buy one or two of the 7day active Omegas. I'd save them for a double or triple SP event, and I'd activate them on a Saturday or Sunday.
That would give nearly 400,000 sp, for the use of a single booster, not counting SP gains after-cap.
I'd say that's worth it. No need to be rude here towards Nguruthos IX, it's a very common misunderstanding. There was a sticky thread here somewhere 'explaining' the boosters. IMO they further suggested functionality like Nguruthos IX mentions. I didn't realize it was the other way around until I bought my first boosters.
You are also quite correct my calculations are not aimed at the maximum efficiency (by making boosters overlap weeks), rather the calculations were aimed at long term usage with no restrictions on playing time. You are also quite correct that the 7-day Omega active is extremely worth it should there be more double or triple SP event and I would encourage everyone to stack up 2-4x of them just for those cases. |
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Posted - 2013.10.02 04:42:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:This is the crux of the matter. Youre comparing buying omega boosters by the most inefficient way (aur pack) with buying normal boosters via the most efficient way (merc pack). But thats not how anyone sensible will buy omegas. Theyll buy merc/vet/elite apacks and spend the aur on omegas. If you buy omegas like that they cost 2.4 times normal boosters, not 4 times.
The comparison is based on the assumption that if you're in the market for Omega booster you are only in the market for Omega boosters, not the others. If you're in the market for mixing it up yes then the Merc/Vet/Elite packs are more efficient because they yield allot of boosters AUR worth. It's a whole another problem that I feel the AUR packs give too little AUR for money spent. |
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