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Quil Evrything
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Posted - 2013.10.01 00:31:00 -
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The wording on the scout suit command skill, is very interesting.
Quote:
Scout Suit Bonus: 5% reduction to scan profile per level
Gallente Scout Bonus: +10% to dropsuit scan radius per level
The second one has been explained to me as being better called,
"Gallente Scout SUIT Bonus". So anyone with that skill, and wearning a G.S. suit gets that bonus.
However, the first one has not been explored. It implies to me, that if you have, for example,
Gallente Scout level 5, and Minmatar Scout level 1
that if you wear minmatar scout, basic fit, you will still get the 5x5% bonus, since it is after all, "A Scout Suit".
Probably doesnt. But... I think it's worth testing!
Has anyone actually tested this out?
Should be pretty easy. One without modules will be invisible to ADV scanners, and the other one will not be.
Unless the bonus does actually apply to both, and then they will both be invisible.. ? !
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Quil Evrything
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Posted - 2013.10.01 16:25:00 -
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Read more carefully. I said basic FIT, not "basic suit". ie: no damp modules.
Besides which, there's no such thing as a "basic suit". Light frame, is light frame, not "basic suit".
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Quil Evrything
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:12:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:Oh wait, you're that guy that refuses to stop using starter fits even though you have a Dren BPO, aren't you.
no, I'm not.
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Quil Evrything
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:24:00 -
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Do you have a problem staying on topic? or is it just that you'd rather attack people personally, than actually discuss technical questions in a civil manner?
Either way, go work out your personal issues elsewhere, or I'll report you for forum abuse.
Meanwhile, for the rest of the world: is there anyone out there who for whatever reason, happens to have both scout types unlocked, but has significant differences in their level?
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Quil Evrything
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Posted - 2013.10.02 06:39:00 -
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Vyuru wrote:
I'd be curious about this, not quite sure how you'd test it out though, the scanner vs suit + skill level in profile dampening goes over my head a bit. I still think the easiest way would be to use Logi suits since the suit regen is worded the same way as the scout's profile dampening.
If I could make my scout even MORE stealthy, just imagine the possibilities!!!
I dont think the dragonfly scout suit counts.
Basically, I see the best of both worlds, as essentially:
Person gets gallente scout to level 5. So, they have ludicrous range when they want it.
But they occasionally want a speedier fit for hacking runs. (that isnt blowing proto suits and modules).
So they get level 1 minmatar scout (or maybe even level 3) but it still (hopefully) gets the rank 5 "scout suit" bonus from the gallente scout.
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Quil Evrything
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:09:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I think the Scout Suit bonus only applies to the Scout suit you are skilled into. I base this on how bonuses work on other suits, and on how ship bonuses work in EVE. If there was a Scout Suit skill that was not race specific, then bonuses based on that skill might be applied to multiple Scout Suit types, but since all the Scout Suit skills are racially specific, I donGÇÖt think they will apply to suits of another race.
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THe difference here is the wording.
each racial scout suit has two bonuses.
They deliberately worded ONE bonus with racial tags, and one WITHOUT racial tags.
That is rather notable.
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Quil Evrything
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:37:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:If we can verify that the Dragonfly Scout suit gets the scout bonuses, then someone skilled into Minmitar Scout can test QuilGÇÖs hypotheses using a Gallente Dragonfly suit. It does not have a skill requirement.
The Dragonfly suit is based on the Scout G-l suit, so it should get the bonus just as the Scout G-l suit does. I've got a Dragonfly and Minmatar scout lvl 3. What do you need me to do? 
you need to start by listing your dampening skill, and gallente skill, so we can figure out what your base 'should' be
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Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.04 06:28:00 -
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nvrmind.
OZAROW and I managed to do some testing before the server died tonight.
Crossposted results from the main scout thread:
bad news is: yup, no overlap between gallente and minmatar scout skills. AWWW.
Using a 28dB scanner, I could pick up his gallente with basic dampener.
I could not pick up his minmatar with a basic dampener.
He has:
gallente scout skill 3
minmatar scout skill 5
dampener skill 4
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