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Posted - 2013.09.30 23:54:00 -
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QuickSaint777 wrote:With all the changes being made and more updates in the future why not put an IN GAME SKILL POINT RESPEC like they had in the game MAG you guys @ CCP seem to favor in your drop suit names. You could make an ISK version and a AUR version (that do the same thing with no advantage other than saving ISK by using AUR) Have it cost 5 million ISK or 4000 AUR or something... IDK the transfer on currency. It would save you guys at CCP a lot of headaches and the players would be much much happier . It would also promote more competition in the game because more people would have the items they play best with. As well as when you guys introduce a new weapon that is over powered and everyone specs into it to stay competitive...then you guys nerf the crap out of it, then no one would really ***** about the changes much. I cant tell you how important this is to the game. It's more important that the visual effects or game mechanics by far. Please introduce this to the game before anything else. Before any updates or new vehicles or weapons.
+1 , love respec threads.
Keep them coming, with some luck CCP might improve this game with them....
ITs, by all means,one of the main issues with DUST,the lack of respec options |
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:26:00 -
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MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:+1, Loved MAG and thought the respec was great. I could change from a full assault to a sniper to what ever.
I am up for it. Especially because I have a 10 million MERC I abandoned.
I can't even kill it, because I have all my purchases with it. RAVEN Armor and all the guns we got from playing BETA.
Can we @ least get our purchases back if we destroy a MERC?
Thank you.
Listen to your children CCP. Give us a Respec, give DUST517 REPLAY VALUE. |
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Posted - 2013.10.01 03:20:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Hmmm let me think about this. You're asking for a respec because you think it will increase replay value. You do realize that CCP has stated that the full skill tree will take years to skill into. Unlike MAG you won't be limited by a maximum amount of SP.
Where I am confused is the whole idea of re-playability which you say this game lacks. I think I'd have to agree. Replaying a game implies beating it, mastering all its skills, or even reaching its level cap. This game does not have any of those limitations Checkmate. You can skill into new things indefinitely, adding to the depth and bredth of your characters skills. There is no reason to erase what you have to gain something new. SImply keep playing and develop new skills. Problem solved.
Your request is conceptually flawed and totally ignores the basic premise of the game. Remember, your choices matter and will effect your character forever. Even a mistake will become an asset in the long term.
Edit: Stop your bleating for a respec. We have reasoned, trolled, berated, and simply told you no. Give it up and either enjoy the game and keep playing or shut up and go away.
Oh a civil answer. I must reply kindly with my opinion then:
-''You're asking for a respec because you think it will increase replay value. You do realize that CCP has stated that the full skill tree will take years to skill into.'' As it is, CCP needs to hold their playerbase. This skill tree you talk about that will tanke YEARS to skill into is not finished yet.Its ever changing, ever improving and ever adding stuff. Pretending to make permanent decisions in this enviroment is madness. I do agree after EVERYTHING is set and done we wont need respecs anymore. But at the moment i strongly believe we do.
-''There is no reason to erase what you have to gain something new. '' Yes there is, me and many players have spent their valuable TIME getting tuff that got NERFED,changed,had wrong descriptions, have effectivness variations etc...Also, we have a lot of SP that we dont want to save for the time , in who knows how many years, CCP gives us the suit/weapon/vehicle we really want to use.
-''SImply keep playing and develop new skills. Problem solved.'' Tahts the problem.not solved. players wont keep wasting their time,they'll leave, hell they already left and keep leaving.
-''Your request is conceptually flawed and totally ignores the basic premise of the game. Remember, your choices matter and will effect your character forever. Even a mistake will become an asset in the long term.'' Neither do CCP nor You have the right to say my choices matter when i spend 12 million into scouts and then between Hit detection,nova knife nerfs,shotgun nerfs and active scanner availability my whole lot of SP gets lost into uselesness. My decision WAS NOT PERMANENT,because CCP changed it.
Thats 12 mil sp that in my mind thats TIME invested.
My time is worth more than anything else CCP has to offer. While CCP keeps adding/changing/nerfing/buffing they need to give the chance to the players to take full advantage of their Sp,every player want to be able to play as it best. Its a right we have, and its the way a game should be.
AFTER EVERYTHING IS OUT AND STEADY/STABLE,then you can attempt for player to make ''permanent choices'', you can deny all of us respecs....
EDIT:''Stop your bleating for a respec. We have reasoned, trolled, berated, and simply told you no. Give it up and either enjoy the game and keep playing or shut up and go away''
Sorry, i dont take orders from some unknown person from the internet nor i care. You shut up and go away. |
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Posted - 2013.10.01 04:12:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:While I understand your frustration over the scouts being hard to use in this build they are by no means unusable. There are several scouts in our corp who perform more than admirably even given the current difficulties. That being said you don't nessicarily have the SP to perform at that level with only 12 million, especially if you did anything but specialize right away. What I can tell you is that if you enjoy the game and keep playing you can be successful as a scout in the current build.
I really do think that you are underestimating many of our investment in this game. This build is one of the best and more playable for every class. There have been builds where our PS3's hard froze after every three matches, and others where scouts could actual dodge bullets matrix style. In a couple of the builds everyone just spammed swarm launchers kiling everyone vehicles and infantry alike. If you look at those previous builds this one looks amazing and plays great.
My point is that if those previous version of the game, which were flawed beyond reason or even destructive to your PS3, did not kill this game than I doubt that any issues we are currently having will be DUST's death stroke.
Remeber Checkmate, the game is in flux. Things have been strong, then nerfed, and then strong again. Don't worry, your suit will be amazing again. On that note there is still no reason to get a respec since if you wait a month or two your class of choice will be great again.
-''While I understand your frustration over the scouts being hard to use in this build they are by no means unusable. There are several scouts in our corp who perform more than admirably even given the current difficulties'' It is possible,but by no means effective. Its very situational and those scouts in your corp that do ;;admirably'' would do better with any Med frame.Me myself , i look for optimization.
-''That being said you don't nessicarily have the SP to perform at that level with only 12 million, especially if you did anything but specialize right away. What I can tell you is that if you enjoy the game and keep playing you can be successful as a scout in the current build.'' I actually have 16 mil, 12+ of those spent into scouts and testing stuff. that i WOULD like bak to play at my full potential. Its not hard to see why i'd like a repec.Again, being a sucesfull scout nowadays comes down to Maps and if the enemy has ective scanners or not, not skill...
-''I really do think that you are underestimating many of our investment in this game. This build is one of the best and more playable for every class. There have been builds where our PS3's hard froze after every three matches, and others where scouts could actual dodge bullets matrix style. In a couple of the builds everyone just spammed swarm launchers kiling everyone vehicles and infantry alike. If you look at those previous builds this one looks amazing and plays great.'' Agreed.Its one of the best so far.
''My point is that if those previous version of the game, which were flawed beyond reason or even destructive to your PS3, did not kill this game than I doubt that any issues we are currently having will be DUST's death stroke.'' Maybe you are right.But its better to prevent than to heal....
-''Remeber Checkmate, the game is in flux. Things have been strong, then nerfed, and then strong again. Don't worry, your suit will be amazing again. On that note there is still no reason to get a respec since if you wait a month or two your class of choice will be great again''
This is a promise neither you nor CCP are able to keep.Sadly , but true,. In other notes,no player should have to wait 2+ monts to enjoy a game. |
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