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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.01 00:46:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Mac Dac wrote:Duran Lex wrote:65k for the Omega booster? That's a ******* 33% increase from the previously released ones.
Are you on crack?
That's the greediest ******* **** I've seen since War Z's server fiasco. (now called Zombie Survival Stories or some stupid ****).
Don't give me that supply and demand bullshit either. Purposely limiting items to raise the demand doesn't justify increasing the damn price by 33%. That's shady as fuckin hell.
How hilarious it is, that after all the bullshit I've waded through on the development team, and not minding the length of time it takes to create a decent game, It's the marketing team that makes me say **** you and your game.
See you on the PS4 if you ever ******* make it there with you greedy assholes.
how much is that in US dollars? Well 40k AUR is $20 so a little more then $30. I hate that everything is cheaper in America. It's 20Gé¼ in Europe. :/
Well we sold our souls to corporations and traded living wages for cheap stuff and cheap credit. The grass isn't always greener. We are always a serious illness away from the poor farm as well. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1371
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Posted - 2013.10.01 00:53:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:843 Epidemic wrote:CCP you are fools. Or at least your marketing division.
The aforementioned product (Booster) I imagine is costing you next to... $0 to employ? Right? So essentially you're making 100% profit. If you're making that much profit you LOWER the price, because you want more sales. The HIGHER the price the LESS sales you make hence the LESS profit you generate.
At this point in time that booster costs roughly $30. From this booster, in the time-frame of a month you gain 1,344,000 Skill points. So one would be paying $30 for that many skill points. That can't even buy you level 5 on, say, maxing your CPU upgrade for 0. In a FTP game If I give you -ú30 I STILL can't get that measly 25% CPU reduction (which isn't measly but, you get the point). It may seem like a weird example and I'm SURE you don't think about it like that, but people who buy these things tend to do the maths, and you aren't at all.
Let's suppose, and I'm English so I'll be talking in terms of Sterling (-ú), an Omega booster costs me roughly -ú10. Great, I will definitely buy one EVEN THOUGH I've never bought any AURUM based product on Dust, that sounds like a bargain. charge me close to -ú30? No. Now, I know what you're thinking that means you're making less profit per month if I'm buying one a month, however that's supposing I even BUY one a month. At $30 a month (Which is significantly higher than most subscription based games) you really think people are going to buy this more than once? Sure maybe some rich ******* or the lonely neckbeards but not your average player, no way.
On a product that costs you next to nothing (I imagine, correct if I'm wrong) where there is no delivery and no stakeholders to pay when you are making probably close to 100% profit you DO NOT raise the price higher than your average player. On an item where all you make is profit you want to make it cheap so that everyone can buy it, and buy it often.
People are even likely to buy in bulk at a cheaper price, offer some economies of scale or something! You just can't slap a random price tag without actually working out how ridiculous your pricing strategy is.
I appreciate it's a free game, but charging $30 for something that only lasts a month and really isn't even that great is just shocking. One can buy a game that lasts for months for less money. And if I'm right, one can actually subscribe to EVE online for less!!!
Morale of the story CCP: If you aim to satisfy your customers, your wallet will be satisfied. IF you aim to satisfy your wallet then your customers will not be satisfied, and neither will your wallet.
NB: My figures may be a little off, I'm going of the number I'm told are apparent. The only fools are the ones who buy it and expect anything more then an extra 1 mil SP a month.
Extra 720,000 for $32 |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1371
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:07:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Quote:
I hate that everything is cheaper in America. It's 20Gé¼ in Europe. :/
$20 is 14.79 Euros...
You've got to be sh1tting me |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:09:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:All of this supply demand is all just speculation people.
Do any of you have charts outlining the sales of Omega Boosters? No? Didn't think so!
As someone stated earlier in the thread, the Omega SP gain is equal to multiple normal boosters for less cost. So tell me as a consumer, would you rather buy 2 boosters for $20 each which gave you 100k SP each or 1 booster for 30 dollars which gave you 300k SP? Which is the better deal?
Furthermore, do you have sales charts on the normal boosters so you have an idea of what the booster market in general looks like?
What about charts comparing the sales of Normal boosters vs the Sales of Omega boosters at the time of the last Omega booster Sale?
Do you have charts outlining the increase or decline in overall booster sales from the end of the last Omega Booster sale?
No?
HTFU! Stop your whining! If you can't afford the damn things, or don't agree on the price then don't buy them! Do you go to the department store and haggle the cashier because you don't feel like you should have to pay $60 for that brand new game? No? Why are you crying about boosters in a free to play game? For christ's sake grow up!
I can afford them. I'm a grown up and earn a decent living.
$32 for what 720,000 SP gives you is highway robbery |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1372
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:17:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:CCP you are fools. Or at least your marketing division.
The aforementioned product (Booster) I imagine is costing you next to... $0 to employ? Right? So essentially you're making 100% profit. If you're making that much profit you LOWER the price, because you want more sales. The HIGHER the price the LESS sales you make hence the LESS profit you generate.
At this point in time that booster costs roughly $30. From this booster, in the time-frame of a month you gain 1,344,000 Skill points. So one would be paying $30 for that many skill points. That can't even buy you level 5 on, say, maxing your CPU upgrade for 0. In a FTP game If I give you -ú30 I STILL can't get that measly 25% CPU reduction (which isn't measly but, you get the point). It may seem like a weird example and I'm SURE you don't think about it like that, but people who buy these things tend to do the maths, and you aren't at all.
Let's suppose, and I'm English so I'll be talking in terms of Sterling (-ú), an Omega booster costs me roughly -ú10. Great, I will definitely buy one EVEN THOUGH I've never bought any AURUM based product on Dust, that sounds like a bargain. charge me close to -ú30? No. Now, I know what you're thinking that means you're making less profit per month if I'm buying one a month, however that's supposing I even BUY one a month. At $30 a month (Which is significantly higher than most subscription based games) you really think people are going to buy this more than once? Sure maybe some rich ******* or the lonely neckbeards but not your average player, no way.
On a product that costs you next to nothing (I imagine, correct if I'm wrong) where there is no delivery and no stakeholders to pay when you are making probably close to 100% profit you DO NOT raise the price higher than your average player. On an item where all you make is profit you want to make it cheap so that everyone can buy it, and buy it often.
People are even likely to buy in bulk at a cheaper price, offer some economies of scale or something! You just can't slap a random price tag without actually working out how ridiculous your pricing strategy is.
I appreciate it's a free game, but charging $30 for something that only lasts a month and really isn't even that great is just shocking. One can buy a game that lasts for months for less money. And if I'm right, one can actually subscribe to EVE online for less!!!
Morale of the story CCP: If you aim to satisfy your customers, your wallet will be satisfied. IF you aim to satisfy your wallet then your customers will not be satisfied, and neither will your wallet.
NB: My figures may be a little off, I'm going of the number I'm told are apparent.
You are getting an extra 24,000 per day. It's around 720,000 that you GAIN. You get the other 24,000 just for activating the Passive SP on that character. If it were that much of a gain I'd start to come around on it.
I'm also guessing that 90% of those that are supportive of the price haven't contributed much in the form of currency for this game. And won't be purchasing a booster regardless of price. I've spent hundreds on this game. This is me talking as a customer that expects a fair price for a product.
I've been okay with the AUR gouging up to this point, but this price is too much. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1372
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:28:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I've been okay with the AUR gouging up to this point, but this price is too much. I think that's the whole point of the exercise. In aggregate, what happens at a different price level... when everyone decides whether or not they want it. Will people who haven't already purchased a merc pack bundle it that way? Will folks who already went the merc pack route hold off? Moving the price around equates to research. Well, that and QQ generation!
Have you seen prices move at any point in this game? There have been a few sales, but the prices don't move. They've gone up but this isn't some active market that rises and falls based on market activity. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1373
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:30:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:All of this supply demand is all just speculation people.
Do any of you have charts outlining the sales of Omega Boosters? No? Didn't think so!
As someone stated earlier in the thread, the Omega SP gain is equal to multiple normal boosters for less cost. So tell me as a consumer, would you rather buy 2 boosters for $20 each which gave you 100k SP each or 1 booster for 30 dollars which gave you 300k SP? Which is the better deal?
Furthermore, do you have sales charts on the normal boosters so you have an idea of what the booster market in general looks like?
What about charts comparing the sales of Normal boosters vs the Sales of Omega boosters at the time of the last Omega booster Sale?
Do you have charts outlining the increase or decline in overall booster sales from the end of the last Omega Booster sale?
No?
HTFU! Stop your whining! If you can't afford the damn things, or don't agree on the price then don't buy them! Do you go to the department store and haggle the cashier because you don't feel like you should have to pay $60 for that brand new game? No? Why are you crying about boosters in a free to play game? For christ's sake grow up! I can afford them. I'm a grown up and earn a decent living. $32 for what 720,000 SP gives you is highway robbery Then like I said, don't buy them. it's really easy. Just. Don't. By them.
Sorry to disappoint but I want to see this game succeed. The CPM has already said they have requested an audience with CCP over this price. It's too high, it's that simple.
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