This is a valid question. What is the status of the charter and the plans for the election coming?

(note: I'm a proponent of a vote in general and haven't decided who I want yet)

Bunch of idiots thinking the CPM is there to hold their hands and make everything ok.

Internal affairs responsibility is to keep CCP'rs from directly exploiting their own game/company for personal benefit. That's not the type of watchdogging the CSM does.


The CSM was created not to tell CCP what they can or can't do, but to represent OUR side of the table and champion OUR cause. Was it a publicity stunt? Sure. Sure. But it has taken on a life of its own and if you take up the mantle, you are obligated to take up the responsibility that comes with it. You have been doing the exact opposite. You're hard working IWS, but you're working for the wrong side.

+1 to Iron wolf saber! The only good CPM who is actually doing his job. Where are the other CPMs at? More appropriation should be showed to him for having to sift thew the crap that gets posted on these forums.

Well, if people feel they need their own needs to be tracked a little closer perhaps have a couple of people per suit, role or mode -- as long as having larger numbers of people doesn't prove costly or onerous.

Light, medium, heavy.
Scout, assault, logi, commando, heavy.
LAV, HAV, Dropships.
Pub, PC.
Skirmish, domination, ambush.
NPE.

I don't know if it will help with the QQing but at least everybody may in theory have a good chance at representation (as many people can cross multiple suits/roles/modes).

There needs to be an odd number so that there can be a simple majority internally for issues that require it when approaching CCP. At 3-3 vote is bad. I would say to expand it to 7.

As for nomination process, it should be similar to what Eve does. Candidates interested needed to posited by the player base, and there needs to be a petition of sorts. I don't know the numbers needed for the petition as we (the players) don't know how many truly active accounts in Dust there, but it should be scaled based on this. Also, those on the CPM must be active players, and need to be committed to working on the forums, in between open round tables with the player base, and this should be communicated to any nominees.

I'd also like to say it nominees should not be limited to those who put their own names in. There are several people who would make good leaders but don't want to seek out the celebrity aspect. In my experience, these are typically the best leaders.

I'm sure I could offer more suggestions if you like, but will need some time to think it through (I've plenty of experience in setting up leadership in corps and alliances over the last 5 years in Eve and Dust and will happily offer any help I can to the process, if this was a legitimate request for ideas).

We've had similar suggestions for nominations before but I vociferously reject the idea of specific specialists being on the CPM for the purpose or representing a narrow band of players. At worst this would only create a group of highly partisan people on the CPM all arguing their own corner and not taking into consideration the views of other roles played in the game. At best it would give us a group of people where each could only be at all useful for talking about 10% of issues because they have no knowledge of anything but their own speciality.

What we need on the CPM are people who are good communicators, impartial analysts and mediators. Most importantly we need people who will listen to the playerbase and investigate to find all sides of all issues raised to them, so that they can give CCP the clearest representation of the playerbase that they can.

Shotty Go Bang on behalf of scouts/stealth has my vote.

I don't know... if the people who get on the panel take their position seriously then you'd have discussions concerning how doing one thing may impact another group for which the proposing party does not have any background. The people we need on the panel can have the qualities you suggest and still have a specialization for which they are most knowledgeable.

If the people we get on the panel don't take their role seriously, to represent the community for the greater good of the game, then it really won't matter how it is structured.

I'll be honest and without using vulgarity, I along with lots of others disagree with you on lots of subjects. However YOU DO at least have a presence on the forums.

This DUST council thing is the biggest load of crap. To go along with a lacklustre game I suppose. So much talk, so many promises and so little action.

So they are being our reps, by not representing or communicating with us? Ha JOKE of a game.

I'd love to sit down and talk with quite a few of you, understand your processes and what you propose...no idea how to do that though.