DUST Search - Transition from CMP0 to CPM1

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Internal affairs responsibility is to keep CCP'rs from directly exploiting their own game/company for personal benefit. That's not the type of watchdogging the CSM does.

The CSM was created not to tell CCP what they can or can't do, but to represent OUR side of the table and champion OUR cause. Was it a publicity stunt? Sure. Sure. But it has taken on a life of its own and if you take up the mantle, you are obligated to take up the responsibility that comes with it. You have been doing the exact opposite. You're hard working IWS, but you're working for the wrong side.

I dunno the amount of counter posts on the thread that sparked this one are well in sync with the messaging I had and others are counter posting for various other angles as well, and lets be honest I cannot represent everyone at the same time but I do ask those of opposing views to be serious and answer the questions when I do ask for them because its all I generally need to get it sent upstairs with best effect. I will disagree with the community from time to time or portions of it frequently but if enough effort is put into making it reasonable and presentable I will pass it along.

Good Posting gets you much further than bad posting ever would and the other thread's OP when boiled had the singular goal of attacking CCP just about.


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Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1668	Posted - 2013.09.29 17:11:00 - [1] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: They're doing just fine. In case you guys forget IWS passed the melee thing along a long time ago. Thus it got fixed. It seems a lot of you want the cpm to play mommy and daddy and that is not their job. CPM's job is to keep CCP in check. That is the reason the original CSM was formed. Currently the CPM's, or at the very least IWS's agenda is to suck up to CCP and stay on their good side rather than reprimand where necessary. He is fulfilling the role of ambassador for their side instead of ours. As the CPM is doing the exact opposite of what it is supposed to be doing, it is important that it is changed.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1669	Posted - 2013.09.29 17:37:00 - [2] - Quote Internal affairs responsibility is to keep CCP'rs from directly exploiting their own game/company for personal benefit. That's not the type of watchdogging the CSM does. The CSM was created not to tell CCP what they can or can't do, but to represent OUR side of the table and champion OUR cause. Was it a publicity stunt? Sure. Sure. But it has taken on a life of its own and if you take up the mantle, you are obligated to take up the responsibility that comes with it. You have been doing the exact opposite. You're hard working IWS, but you're working for the wrong side.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1669	Posted - 2013.09.29 18:32:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Internal affairs responsibility is to keep CCP'rs from directly exploiting their own game/company for personal benefit. That's not the type of watchdogging the CSM does. The CSM was created not to tell CCP what they can or can't do, but to represent OUR side of the table and champion OUR cause. Was it a publicity stunt? Sure. Sure. But it has taken on a life of its own and if you take up the mantle, you are obligated to take up the responsibility that comes with it. You have been doing the exact opposite. You're hard working IWS, but you're working for the wrong side. I dunno the amount of counter posts on the thread that sparked this one are well in sync with the messaging I had and others are counter posting for various other angles as well, and lets be honest I cannot represent everyone at the same time but I do ask those of opposing views to be serious and answer the questions when I do ask for them because its all I generally need to get it sent upstairs with best effect. I will disagree with the community from time to time or portions of it frequently but if enough effort is put into making it reasonable and presentable I will pass it along. Good Posting gets you much further than bad posting ever would and the other thread's OP when boiled had the singular goal of attacking CCP just about. Because CCP is in the wrong. It has been shown how CCP is in the wrong, and you are in denial that CCP is in the wrong. And CCP is doing nothing to correct the wrong, nor should they feel inclined to because we have YOU representing the playerbase. It doesn't help that with every issue your attitude is "I don't see a problem, where's the evidence?" Hell, even when you're given video evidence it's never good enough for you. You always want better evidence. You're supposed to be the one pushing the issue for us, getting CCP to dig up their logs and take responsibility so it is irrefutable. Instead you're just telling everyone to **** off and HTFU, even though it was a clear violation of rules that were posted before the tournament ever happened. But this denial stuff is always so strong with you, regardless of what evidence is brought to light. I should have known from the first comment I heard about you in the thread about muzzle flash being too bright. You recall? The one where you said you didn't see anything wrong, and the guy said you never see anything wrong? Never could have guessed how right he would be about that. Muzzle too bright? Don't see the problem. Aim assist too strong with INSANELY DETAILED video evidence? Not good enough, give moar evidence. Video of AE cheating in an official tournament? Hell let's go for broke and deny it, condone it, AND demand more evidence. You're welcome to do all of these things, sadly. It's your right. And it's my right to replace you, thank god.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1669	Posted - 2013.09.29 18:38:00 - [4] - Quote We don't need CPM members who chat with the community every day, we just need CPM members who actually play the same damn game as the rest of us. If they can do that much, they know which issues actually need to be fixed. Talking with lesser players isn't going to solve a lot of problems. It just gets a lot of really dumb suggestions put on the table.