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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:38:00 -
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The Medium class vehicles are given Medium class modules.
Dropships are currently Medium vehicles that are balanced around Light modules.
This is their primary problem.
Release Medium modules and adjust CPU/PG accordingly = fix Dropships |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:08:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:120 MM plates are medium modules. There are no medium shield extenders that is the issue.
True, but it doesn't change that reppers don't have medium variants, and dropships as a whole were clearly "balanced" with light modules in mind. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 14:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:My Gawd.
/falls to the floor foaming at the mouth.
Must... pass... on....
Please please do, even though I can't be a dedicated pilot like I used to thanks to anxiety and respecs
I'll make the slow ass crawl back to the only thing I enjoy
ladwar wrote:you have greater mobility then a LAV and that's why you have less eHP...
And you make the entire map sound like MCCs mating the second you take off, you are very easy to spot, in anything other than an ADS your flight patterns are very predictable for even mediocre AV. You have to deal with your ship rocking side to side from everything that hits you, NULL missiles, MCC missiles, RDVs, along with buildings and the flight mechanics in general.
There is literally no excuse for Medium vehicles to be less resilient than Light vehicles, and ANYONE who has trouble taking out Dropships right now seriously needs to feel bad about themselves
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:45:00 -
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Torneido Achura wrote:Actually med modules are Dust high modules, and high modules are Dust the weapons&nades slots.. so---- you're totally and utterly screwed dropshipers  fear the Wykromi, fear biches Someone more in touch with Eve could get you some more info.. but medium vehicles doesn't mean med modules, fact 
I was specifically talking about the type of module.
In DUST, not EVE, since the two are drastically different, we have Light, Medium, and Heavy vehicles.
As we can see by the 120mm plates, we do in fact have medium modules. Considering the MAV wants to be a thing, this will also need to be balanced around medium modules. Without medium modules to go with medium vehicles, medium vehicles will forever be an ISK and SP trap because they cannot compete with halfway awake AV under any circumstances. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 16:06:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The Medium class vehicles are given Medium class modules.
Dropships are currently Medium vehicles that are "balanced" around Light modules.
This is their primary problem.
Release Medium modules and adjust CPU/PG accordingly = fix Dropships not to poke holes in your plan but dropshhips are considered light vehicles.... look at the loading screen with the legend on it. A hallow triangle is a light aircraft ;however a RDV has the same symbol but it can survive around 5 forge gun hits... sooooooo. IDK.
Dropships are most certainly Medium vehicles.
Call in your Gorgon and take a look at the symbol. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:31:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:This actually makes sense, you give up armor and protection for the ability of flight. You can stack more armor on something on the ground than you can on something that flys.
On traditional aircraft sure, but the dropship is clearly meant to be an armored transport ship. Honestly the Assault dropship is almost fine, so it just needs to be able to fit one, maybe two medium modules if you really tried.
Logistics ships need the ability to logi, they need to be able to tank since they're slow and easy to hit. Light remote reppers can stay exactly as is, just give medium remote reppers a longer range so MAVs can support while entrenched and dropships can support from a reasonable distance that doesn't beg for the pilot to crash the second someone sneezes his way.
Reduce the PG/CPU cost of medium modules to match what they give you, bump dropship PG/CPU to compensate, possibly a 10-15% base HP buff, and possibly one additional main slot for logistics ships(low for Gallente, high for Caldari), just without the added PG/CPU to compensate, to give you more wiggle room when tweaking builds.
+5 WP for spawns in dropship.
Change Gallente Logistic Dropship bonus from -2% CPU consumption to all armor modules to -1% PG consumption to all armor modules
Bam. Dropships done. |
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