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Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 256	Posted - 2013.09.28 21:43:00 - [1] - Quote I'm curious, if I stack them and I'm sniping, will people see my name if they look at me? An If I pass by someone quickly, do I not appear on the map? Just need to know if it is worth it for shotgunning because that's what I usually run.
LoveNewlooy Black Phoenix Mercenaries 83	Posted - 2013.09.28 21:52:00 - [2] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I'm curious, if I stack them and I'm sniping, will people see my name if they look at me? An If I pass by someone quickly, do I not appear on the map? Just need to know if it is worth it for shotgunning because that's what I usually run. Yes
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1343	Posted - 2013.09.28 22:19:00 - [3] - Quote Don't think it would be too valuable sniping, but for everything else dampeners are almost as valuable as HP in 1.4 (perhaps even more valuable).
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 788	Posted - 2013.09.28 22:42:00 - [4] - Quote If you are dampened enough, they need to loo DIRECTLY at you to, tag you! But truth be told, if they are close enough to tag, they will see you without it, if you wanna use EWAR when sniping, put on prescision enhamcers, makes it easier for you to get a bead on targets!
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1561	Posted - 2013.09.28 22:42:00 - [5] - Quote One of the many valuable titbits of information that would be very useful to get dev confirmation on in a fully fleshed out scanning dev blog. As far as I'm aware scanning mods do not affect line of sight detection at all but this has never been confirmed or denied by CCP.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1244	Posted - 2013.09.28 23:08:00 - [6] - Quote Because of the upcoming changes, I will be speccing into this. I was just thinking about this on my way to work.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 790	Posted - 2013.09.28 23:13:00 - [7] - Quote Django Quik wrote: One of the many valuable titbits of information that would be very useful to get dev confirmation on in a fully fleshed out scanning dev blog. As far as I'm aware scanning mods do not affect line of sight detection at all but this has never been confirmed or denied by CCP. It was tested on the forums by players, the tag starts off transparent and gets stronger the closer to the reticule they are! Enhancers make them more solid (noticable) further away from reticule! I think! Gimme a sec!
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 259	Posted - 2013.09.28 23:17:00 - [8] - Quote So if my (whatever it's called) is at like 29, how noticeable will I be?
OZAROW warravens League of Infamy 749	Posted - 2013.09.29 01:13:00 - [9] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I'm curious, if I stack them and I'm sniping, will people see my name if they look at me? An If I pass by someone quickly, do I not appear on the map? Just need to know if it is worth it for shotgunning because that's what I usually run. Depends what suit your running, assault or logi has a 50db scout has 45 Pd level 5 brings a medium suit to 45 passively My racial scout plus pd 5 brings my base signature to 30 because of the 25% scout bonus an the 10% pd passive bonus. A med 4 low frame can beat 15 db . If you figure out the math an compare it to the scanner you should be ok, an yes it's almost mandatory lately especially with 1.5 bringing scanning points, everyone will probably run adv an proto scans since they stay lit the longest. 28 db a scout shotguner like myself I can beat the proto scanner an do quit well being sneaky I suggest you invest to lv 5 in pd since the games gonna change an you ll need it
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2013.09.29 01:16:00 - [10] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I'm curious, if I stack them and I'm sniping, will people see my name if they look at me? An If I pass by someone quickly, do I not appear on the map? Just need to know if it is worth it for shotgunning because that's what I usually run. Depends what suit your running, assault or logi has a 50db scout has 45 Pd level 5 brings a medium suit to 45 passively My racial scout plus pd 5 brings my base signature to 30 because of the 25% scout bonus an the 10% pd passive bonus. A med 4 low frame can beat 15 db . If you figure out the math an compare it to the scanner you should be ok, an yes it's almost mandatory lately especially with 1.5 bringing scanning points, everyone will probably run adv an proto scans since they stay lit the longest. 28 db a scout shotguner like myself I can beat the proto scanner an do quit well being sneaky I suggest you invest to lv 5 in pd since the games gonna change an you ll need it I don't care about scanners. I'm talking about combat. If I flank 8 or so people, will I be able to run around not being seen on their radar, and will they have to aim/look directly at me to see my health/name?

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1515	Posted - 2013.09.29 01:33:00 - [11] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I don't care about scanners. I'm talking about combat. If I flank 8 or so people, will I be able to run around not being seen on their radar, and will they have to aim/look directly at me to see my health/name? I run a dampened logistics and people run past me all the time. Unless someone is looking right at me or I start shooting them they usually don't act like they see me. If my intent is to capture some point I'll let people run right on by. There must be a fair number that primarily rely on the TACNET and to them I'm just a ghost. It doesn't take much to not appear on passive.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 541	Posted - 2013.09.29 02:15:00 - [12] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Don't think it would be too valuable sniping, but for everything else dampeners are almost as valuable as HP in 1.4 (perhaps even more valuable). It used to be that if you are dampened with SR, your Chevron would not show up unless somone was looking square at you.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2013.09.29 03:27:00 - [13] - Quote Well, I was wondering to run an enhanced dampener and an enhanced kin cat for a Caldari Assault Shotgun/Nova Knives fitting. It's a really run fit, so I was wondering if the 20% less profile is worth it.
Koan Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 4	Posted - 2013.09.29 03:38:00 - [14] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I'm curious, if I stack them and I'm sniping, will people see my name if they look at me? An If I pass by someone quickly, do I not appear on the map? Just need to know if it is worth it for shotgunning because that's what I usually run. Those dampeners are deffinetly good for keeping off of scanners though. I personally smile every time I see " Scan attempt prevented" On my screen. Means that sp I spent getting to enhanced level and past it actually do something.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2013.09.29 04:50:00 - [15] - Quote ...
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 285	Posted - 2013.09.29 12:08:00 - [16] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Well, I am running an enhanced dampener and an enhanced kin cat for an advanced Caldari Assault Shotgun/Nova Knives fitting. It's a really run fit, so I was wondering if the 20% less profile is worth it. Enhanced dampeners don't do anything on medium suits that standard dampeners don't also do. With a scan profile of 50 dB for the medium suit, level 3 profile dampening (-6%) and an advanced profile dampener (-20%) you'll end up at a scan profile of 37.6 dB, which is higher than the scan resolution of all advanced scanners (36 dB). Since just about anyone with a scanner has an advanced scanner you won't be able to hide from almost anyone. If you upgraded to a complex dampener you'd be able to hide from quite a few scanners though. On the other hand, post 1.5 I'd expect many people to upgrade to complex scanners and then you're out of luck again. Right now scanning is quite simply more powerful than dampening.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1869	Posted - 2013.09.29 12:15:00 - [17] - Quote Here a thread I wrote today explaining how Active scanners and Profile Dampening works.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2013.09.29 16:32:00 - [18] - Quote How many times do I have to post this. I don't I've a **** about active scanners. If I'm using it for combat how effective will it be. Is it that hard to understand? Stop saying "active scanner" or "you have been scanned." I honestly don't care about that. I want to know it it's worth it to replace a kin cat with an advanced dampener to save PG, and also of course if it's worth it.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1518	Posted - 2013.09.29 17:08:00 - [19] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: How many times do I have to post this. I don't I've a **** about active scanners. If I'm using it for combat how effective will it be. Is it that hard to understand? Stop saying "active scanner" or "you have been scanned." I honestly don't care about that. I want to know it it's worth it to replace a kin cat with an advanced dampener to save PG, and also of course if it's worth it. I'm at my computer with my spreadsheet so here's the breakdown comparing passive only. You mentioned a 29 dB profile earlier so this is what I think it takes to detect you passively. A Scout or Logistics with Precision Enhancement 3 and 3 x Advanced Precision Enhancers. A Scout or Logistics with PE 5 and 2 x Complex Precision Enhancers. All other Medium Frame and Heavies require PE 5 and 3 x Complex to detect you. The best passive scan out there with no modules is a light frame with PE 5 for 40.5 dB.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2013.09.29 20:19:00 - [20] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: How many times do I have to post this. I don't I've a **** about active scanners. If I'm using it for combat how effective will it be. Is it that hard to understand? Stop saying "active scanner" or "you have been scanned." I honestly don't care about that. I want to know it it's worth it to replace a kin cat with an advanced dampener to save PG, and also of course if it's worth it. I'm at my computer with my spreadsheet so here's the breakdown comparing passive only. You mentioned a 29 dB profile earlier so this is what I think it takes to detect you passively. A Scout or Logistics with Precision Enhancement 3 and 3 x Advanced Precision Enhancers. A Scout or Logistics with PE 5 and 2 x Complex Precision Enhancers. All other Medium Frame and Heavies require PE 5 and 3 x Complex to detect you. The best passive scan out there with no modules is a light frame with PE 5 for 40.5 dB. How effective is 29 dB? And when you say detect, do you mean like if I fire it won't show the location I am at? Or like it won't show me on their radar even if I'm like 20m away?



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