so here we have tanks, with 3 turrets but no tanker wants any crew to use them and then we have lav's almost always with passengers and you dont want them to have turrets.

its an assault vehicle. its not game breaking for them to have turrets for the crew. if we cant shoot our own weapons from the passenger seat then the least we could have is fitted turrets

2: I just said you could instead shoot your gun outside the LAV. Costs less for the driver, looks cool, and the passenger's not bored.

if it comes as standard like all other lav turrets currently do then it costs the driver nothing more, unless they decide to0 stick better ones on.

looks cooler with the extra turret shooting away than it does with the guy sat there doing nothing,

passenger is still bored as he is sat in the vehicle doing nothing to support the vehicle and its crew.

as for jumping out, how do you do that from a moving vehicle

Watch this, and maybe you'll understand.

Also, LAV's don't come standard with turrets. I think the MLT ones do, but otherwise, they don't.

what i don't understand is what the hell GTA has to do with dust at all.

not all of them come with them but thats not to say ccp couldn't add them as standard so as not to increase the cost or hassle in fitting them. even if they did cost more to fit them. you don't have to fit them. if i had a cheap throw away fit or a tanked fit then i wouldnt fit them but if i roam in a squad then this would be highly effective for assaulting positions

Goddamn you're stupid. shooting outside a vehicle (demo'ed by the drive by) would be better. Saves money for the pilot, as well as let's the pilot use the CPU/PG for other things, and the passenger still gets to shoot. Plus, it looks cool.

Also, if they finally make the blasters and railguns better, this would be too strong in terms of LAV's vs. infantry. Frankly, I don't feel like hearing people complain about LAV's 24/7 again even though they suck ass at doing their intended roles......

I didn't say it was. even though the small turrets need a buff, doing this would make them not, because this would overpower them. I don't to see the scrubs complain.

Godin Thekiller

what is your problem??

you really have a hatred for people suggesting anything new.

please explain to me how adding a use for the passenger on a wafer thin lav which cant sit still or its dead is going to make it op. even if they do buff the turrets. its not going to make anything op.



that is just stupid. its like saying if they buff small turrets tanks and dropships are going to be op.

every vehicle apart from lavs has 2 small turrets on them which for most of them never get used yet the only one that would actually benefit from 2 small turrets is the LAV which almost always has passengers.

also your idea of shooting your weapon out of the side but not explosives is just plain stupid and flawed. it would be you screaming bloody murder on the forums when forge and swarmers are firing from the LAV without having to leave it.

1: It's the idiots that I don't want in my HAV. A good crew is always wanted. Pretty sure I've stated that like 20 times, maybe even more.

2: I just said you could instead shoot your gun outside the LAV. Costs less for the driver, looks cool, and the passenger's not bored.

I totally agree with your second point. At least that comes hand in hand with being able to look around again.

Let's see:

1: The vehicle that people complain about that had way too much eHP for it's killing power, and you want people to do that again? **** that. I don't think so.

2: Like I said, if the passenger is shooting outside the vehicle, then there is no need for another turret. the passenger gets to shoot, and the pilot gets to save ISK and resources. plus, it would be inaccurate, so balance would be fine.
3: the small turret on the front of the HAV's can't aim down that very far (or up), and they only have a 60 degree view. The top one can't aim down at all, so their aim is restricted.

4: The Dropships are usually moving, and at a decent height, so it's a little bit inaccurate.

So those two things will hinder them. No.