The flaylock does need a radius buff.

The MD, compared to other weapons, has stupidly awful ammo capacity. It is stupid to run it without nanohives. In fact, you often find yourself having to rely on nanohives. But other weapons... say, the AR, can be perfectly effective without any sort of Nanohive available. A little parity would be nice.

Md absolutely depends in nano hives. This limits fits greatly. It's really low considering it takes a fair amount of your clip to take someone down. Another clip wouldn't hurt I don't think. That's 6 rounds. Even when used sparingly the 18 rounds in total an md gets without skills is hard to stretch

Flaylock needs a radius buff at the very least. I can run an smg as a main. Hmm.

I don't.

Both are good weapons when used by people that know what they're doing.

As a HMG user I love meeting an AR at close range, but MDs still scare me, because you can neither fire back accurately nor take cover. If you took away the one drawback (limited ammo) the MD would be OP. As for the flaylock, it was nerfed for a reason.

So some weapons are more equal than others?

If so we should get 1x multipliers

I hate'em, they rip through my armour.

That being said, they feel balanced. I like where the flaylock is now.

Edit:also, I'm planning on skilling into flaylocks now that we aren't getting hybrid weapons.

A .5 buff to the might break it again.

Dont think so because the damage (splash precisely) was also reduced

Wow, I'm getting a headache from this silly "Slayer Weapon" meme.

Your silly theory does not match reality, just give it up.

The MD does need +6 ammo by default. I have +3 ammo capacity, always carry hives, and I still find myself down to my SMG fairly often.

I don't think any other weapon in the game is so hive/supply depot dependent.

I'm one of those silly people who just has to have a flaylock by my side. Gotta say, it's not too easy to get an accurate shot off. You get three tries and, usually, if you don't hit two out of three, you're dead. They've got that funny timing delay where the missle takes an extra fraction of a second to reach the target and the sight is kinda crap. I wish it would get a little buff, or make it so there was a way to lock on to somebody.

I've dropped stupid amounts of SP into it and, every once in a while at short range I'll just nail some powerful player with it two or three times in a row and either kill him or reduce him to almost nothing.....It usually doesn't work that way, but, when it does, it's sweet enough that I'll think about it for a couple days after. I just imagine them looking at the screen and going, "FLAYLOCK! NO F*%KING WAY!"

Most of the time, though, I'm wondering, "Why the hell don't I carry a SMG?" Probably because I usually have an AR and the FL is something completely different. It occasionally even works at medium to long range in a suppression-type role. Things blowing up around them can throw a group off......until they realize it's basically just a guy with a pistol.

I can't support that, but I think the dmg+radius reduction was too much. One or the other would have been fine.

If you land all 3 shots close enough to hit a target(which is admittingly tough) you may or may not kill your target, it's too unreliable. If you land all your shots with a fullly skilled SMG or scrambler pistol, you will kill your target.

I'd support a dmg buff or a .25 increase to splash radius.

if you skill into the weapons your blast radius increases. If you skill in proficiency the damage increases. So the weapon doesnt need changes, you just need to skill into the weapon more

What is more annoying to face? 6 people with assault rifles or 5 people with assault rifles and 1 asshat above you standing in his nanohives spamming his massdriver forcing you out of hiding and getting your ass shot by his buddies? There is nothing wrong with the mass driver I mean what else are you gunna run other than nanohives when your post up above everyone being a pain in the ass? I guess maybe remote explosives so you can drop them in between bunny hopping like a clown using the mass driver as a shotgun because if you don't get the final blow the weapon is clearly worthless.

I don't get why all weapons need to be catered for 1v1 engagements its completely ridiculous. Why run it if I don't gets me dem killz? Because it is still the most annoying gun in the game that will force you away from an area and nothing has changed that, it synergises well with teamwork not just you running off to get the most kills at the end of the game.

The flaylock I could agree could use more splash radius, even when it was OP the proto tier was the only real useful one imo, that gun probably needs a bit of a look at.

The flaylock I could agree could use more splash radius, even when it was OP the proto tier was the only real useful one imo, that gun probably needs a bit of a look at.

Flaylock is dead. Working is intended? I am not sure but I do wish for at least .5m buff.

it's fine MOARRR skill pls.

I think the current MD has too many rounds. I've seen too many players fling all rounds from their Assault MDs at me to kill me simply because they were aiming in my general direction.

How can a MD be effective under 10m. Sure buff them up again but enough of this MD for all situations, it should be for ranged lobbing to remove enemy build up. Not smashing into the ground at 5m in a 1v1 to random one hit and win.

Flaylock is a decent sidearm.Maybe a very small splash damage buff (5%) would.do nicely, though. MD is.still pretty good. I use it and.also get killed by it a lot and it seems nice. It needs more ammo, tho, BC only combat logis can use it efficiently Cruz they have all them hives, yo. An extra clip of ammo would be just right, I think. Breach needs to shoot faster and.do more direct damage, nut keep everything else the same.

only thing I think about flaylocks is that I wish I could fit a good smg on my sniper suit.

I feel like a boxer whenever I try to use them against Ar/smg users now, you need to be in clinching range to avoid their auto shots.

My 2c :

flaylock damage is relatively low, if you look at DPS (unless you get a headshot.).
Its range is limited.
Giving it splash damage is silly, since its a "flies straight" weapon. So if you are aiming for headshots, and miss, you're not going to get any splash damage.


IMO, it should be made to be a pure armor-piercing weapon, zero splash damage, but more ammo.
Make it a simple congruency:

AR => SCR :: Flay => ScP

You have to lead your shots and use ballistics physics which requires not aiming directly. There's no AA for a MD.