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Grunt Shade
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.28 16:37:00 -
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Make the gunlogi a hover tank. That will give it its speed back and something different to the battlefield |
Leo Look
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.09.28 16:43:00 -
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I like to see a hover take also but I think it needs to be a new class of tank would work grate of water planets |
Grunt Shade
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
19
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Posted - 2013.09.28 16:49:00 -
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A hover tank with a blaster that could strafe.......very deadly |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
243
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Posted - 2013.09.28 19:59:00 -
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Amarrian tanks should hover. Because lasers. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
941
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:03:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Amarrian tanks should hover. Because they like futuristic ****.
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
941
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:06:00 -
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Grunt Shade wrote:Make the gunlogi a hover tank. That will give it its speed back and something different to the battlefield
No.
1: Caldari doesn't do speed. Look at the dropsuits, and then look at the ships in EVE. 2nd slowest most of the time.
2: Caldari Like stability and precision. Hovering could warrant winds slightly moving the HAV, thus ruining the accuracy. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:07:00 -
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I agree about Amarr tanks hovering |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
941
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:08:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I agree about Amarr tanks hovering
How they are looking, they might hover. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1782
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:19:00 -
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Amarr hover tank withs laser light show?! Sounds amazing actually. |
Andra Syra
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:37:00 -
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While I don't agree that the Gunnlogi should become a hover tank (we need some love though CCP!) the concept itself is pretty cool. I'd love to see a hover tank that could strafe, was reasonably fast and kind of coasted as a higher tier of tank like an enforcer, At the very least it would help me justify my HAV III skilling after the disappointment of the Falchion. |
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
449
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:42:00 -
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on the topic of amaar tanks...... ability to replace large turret with 4 smalls. 6 man squad in one tank with 6 small laser turrets. Think about it... |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:19:00 -
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Agreed! |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
945
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:26:00 -
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Andra Syra wrote:While I don't agree that the Gunnlogi should become a hover tank (we need some love though CCP!) the concept itself is pretty cool. I'd love to see a hover tank that could strafe, was reasonably fast and kind of coasted as a higher tier of tank like an enforcer, At the very least it would help me justify my HAV III skilling after the disappointment of the Falchion.
Enforcers are made to be accurate, so it would make no sense to make them hover..... |
Vesago Ghostcore
Rejected Clones
32
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:27:00 -
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If they hover, can I shove them of cliffs? |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.28 23:59:00 -
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I think the downsides of having a hovering tank would be that its turret would be locked in place on its chassis and it would slide around when you are trying to stay still on a slope. In exchange for these downsides they would be able to strafe and kite enemy tanks and installations really well. |
Andra Syra
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
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Posted - 2013.09.29 00:08:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Andra Syra wrote:While I don't agree that the Gunnlogi should become a hover tank (we need some love though CCP!) the concept itself is pretty cool. I'd love to see a hover tank that could strafe, was reasonably fast and kind of coasted as a higher tier of tank like an enforcer, At the very least it would help me justify my HAV III skilling after the disappointment of the Falchion. Enforcers are made to be accurate, so it would make no sense to make them hover.....
Reread that, nowhere do I say hover tanks should be Enforcers. I say that like Enforcers, they should be a higher tier tank (thus justifying my decision to level up the Caldari HAV skill to the point where I can access these tanks). Hover tanks would be quite a contrast to Enforcers, bringing mobility where Enforcers are actually penalised in terms of speed. |
Grunt Shade
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
21
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Posted - 2013.09.29 01:22:00 -
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Yes.
I want something different. I don't care what the gunlogi is ment to be I want variety for the sp and isk it cost take it to the enforcer level if you will. If av can choose grenade,mass driver,swarm,and forge gun etc I want more options than a slow tracked tank. Firepower means nothing if they have distance. You have to have sniper accuracy with a railgun and Missle turret from a distance a blaster is great if your in range with open sights. Granted my maddy is very nice but something that is built for speed would be very useful. I just want more like so many others are waiting for. And suggestions like this may mean nothing but don't forget players make this game possible(if ccp happens to read this thread) |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
245
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Posted - 2013.09.29 01:33:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:on the topic of amaar tanks...... ability to replace large turret with 4 smalls. 6 man squad in one tank with 6 small laser turrets. Think about it...
Amarr Rave Party? |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
951
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Posted - 2013.09.29 02:00:00 -
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Andra Syra wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Andra Syra wrote:While I don't agree that the Gunnlogi should become a hover tank (we need some love though CCP!) the concept itself is pretty cool. I'd love to see a hover tank that could strafe, was reasonably fast and kind of coasted as a higher tier of tank like an enforcer, At the very least it would help me justify my HAV III skilling after the disappointment of the Falchion. Enforcers are made to be accurate, so it would make no sense to make them hover..... Reread that, nowhere do I say hover tanks should be Enforcers. I say that like Enforcers, they should be a higher tier tank (thus justifying my decision to level up the Caldari HAV skill to the point where I can access these tanks). Hover tanks would be quite a contrast to Enforcers, bringing mobility where Enforcers are actually penalised in terms of speed.
Oh I see now. Well, even then, Caldari still doesn't go with moving, but accuracy, so it wouldn't make sense lore wise, as with the WInmatar with being underdeveloped. Gallente doesn't really do hovering, and therefore, only makes sense for Amarr to have hovering. So still no. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
951
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Posted - 2013.09.29 02:02:00 -
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Anyways, the HAV's built for speed would be Black Ops HAV's, and the Race built for speed is Winmatar, so you could have said make the Black Ops HAV's hover, but still wouldn't make sense. |
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
49
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:22:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Grunt Shade wrote:Make the gunlogi a hover tank. That will give it its speed back and something different to the battlefield No. 1: Caldari doesn't do speed. Look at the dropsuits, and then look at the ships in EVE. 2nd slowest most of the time. 2: Caldari Like stability and precision. Hovering could warrant winds slightly moving the HAV, thus ruining the accuracy.
fps balance
sacrifice speed for durability
sacrifice durability for speed
currently gunlogi has 2 disadvantages...armor none, not balanced |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
956
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:39:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Grunt Shade wrote:Make the gunlogi a hover tank. That will give it its speed back and something different to the battlefield No. 1: Caldari doesn't do speed. Look at the dropsuits, and then look at the ships in EVE. 2nd slowest most of the time. 2: Caldari Like stability and precision. Hovering could warrant winds slightly moving the HAV, thus ruining the accuracy. fps balance sacrifice speed for durability sacrifice durability for speed currently gunlogi has 2 disadvantages...armor none, not balanced
Caldari are made to sit with a decent resistance and a good passive regen, and send down death. You forgot the other other variables: range accuracy and damage output. Try sitting on a hill, and firing on a Maddy. Make sure you have plenty of time to hit the said Maddy. Watch it blow up. It's quite nice.
Just to show it to you to make sense:
damage output: High
accuracy and range: medium-high
speed: medium/low
tank: medium
Gallente is basically the same, but is terrible at range, and has horrible range. That's why their favorite turret type is blasters. Plus, they have to get close to do max damage because blasters are inaccurate and the charges dissipate fast due to unstable firing method, so having stronger engines to get in close makes sense.
damage output: high
accuracy and range: low-medium
speed: medium-high
tank: medium |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
49
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:14:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Grunt Shade wrote:Make the gunlogi a hover tank. That will give it its speed back and something different to the battlefield No. 1: Caldari doesn't do speed. Look at the dropsuits, and then look at the ships in EVE. 2nd slowest most of the time. 2: Caldari Like stability and precision. Hovering could warrant winds slightly moving the HAV, thus ruining the accuracy. fps balance sacrifice speed for durability sacrifice durability for speed currently gunlogi has 2 disadvantages...armor none, not balanced Caldari are made to sit with a decent resistance and a good passive regen, and send down death. You forgot the other other variables: range accuracy and damage output. Try sitting on a hill, and firing on a Maddy. Make sure you have plenty of time to hit the said Maddy. Watch it blow up. It's quite nice. Just to show
heavy, armor plates slow, light heavy, fast, alot of shields.
shouldn't have to camp |
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