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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:14:00 -
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I rarely post on forums but now I think it's a good cause. Pardon my english, I'm brazilian.
"You have been scanned" "You have scanned" All the time.
I tried the advance for myself and it's a joke. It's OP and kills any tactics. Flanking is dead, now everyone knows where everyone else is at now. Why don't we just remove all covers from the map and shoot at each other in the open and whoever has the most HP/DPS wins.
The only way to counter that scanner I think it's to play a scout with dampener. Everyone else is doomed to stay forever on the enemy scan.
Either nerf the scanner to 2 seconds max (just to get a glimpse of the enemy is enough not this BS scanner)
or remove it entirely and put back team shared vision.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:23:00 -
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I have eletronics 5, dampening 5, range 5, and precision 3. But I dont use modules because my role is to assault. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:35:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:zeluiz wrote:I have eletronics 5, dampening 5, range 5, and precision 3. But I dont use modules because my role is to assault. Then don't try to solo objectives. Yeah, your job is to assault, but that doesn't mean you can walk anywhere with impunity.. ESPECIALLY if they know where you are. Stick with your squad, move cover to cover, and be ready for the enemy. Get your own scanners. Find out where they are. Send scouts and suits with low profiles to flank. Yeah you are right that scanning has kinda killed flanking for Medium and Heavy frames. But it has given the light frame a purpose that it has sorely needed for awhile.
Even if I'm playing with a squad. Defending Squad scans Attacking squad, Attacking squad scans defending squad. And now everyone (defender and assaulters) knows EXACTLY where every individual is. It's silly.
Scouts with dampeners will still shine with team shared vision. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:43:00 -
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My gripe is the scanner that lasts for 16 seconds (havent checked the prototypes) when the effect runs out u just renew it.
I would be fine if it lasted 16 seconds but had a 30+ seconds cooldown. This way you have to time well your scans because there is a brief moment where your squad is blind and thats the time to attack.
But this ways is know where your enemy is 100% of the time.
At least the attacking squad would have at 15 seconds to surprise the defenders. Think of it as a surprise attack where the defenders struggle at the beginning until their scans fires again.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:54:00 -
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Its not breaking the game, you just don't like it.
I thought it was broken before when everyone knew where everyone was at all times pretty much. Scouts can now spot for snipers by scanning.[/quote]
With my suggestion the scout still can mark targets for the snipers. But 16 seconds is too much. A few seconds is enough to flash the enemy, knows where he is so the sniper can kill him.
You don't need to mark the enemy 100% of the time.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:58:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Another "Games broken cause I'm bad" thread.
w00t keep 'em comin'!
Oh look! A troll!
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:03:00 -
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I'm not saying remove active scanners entirely, just nerf the time of effect or increase cooldown time.
Just a few seconds is enough to gain a huge advantage over the enemy.
16 seconds and then u just renew with another 16 seconds as soon as it's over = EASY MODE
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:08:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:zeluiz wrote:I'm not saying remove active scanners entirely, just nerf the time of effect or increase cooldown time.
Just a few seconds is enough to gain a huge advantage over the enemy.
16 seconds and then u just renew with another 16 seconds as soon as it's over = EASY MODE
jesus - everything to this community is easy mode. First it was heavies, then missiles, then laser, then flaylock, then MD, then forge, and AR will always be called easy mode. And now... SCANNERS. I'm still waiting for someone to say dropships are easy mode. 
Because CCP always hit the sweet spot of new content right off the bat right?
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:12:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:The active scanner has been out there for along time i guess thats the equipment of the month . Just use dampeners i use militias and they never find me The scanner was irrelevant until shared team vision was removed. I'm betting it stays an important piece of equipment.
Even with a shorter duration or increased cooldown it will still be a important equipment.
You don't need to track everyone all the time. Just a few seconds is enough to discover the red dots and then murder them. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:20:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Its not breaking the game, you just don't like it. I thought it was broken before when everyone knew where everyone was at all times pretty much. Scouts can now spot for snipers by scanning.
With my suggestion the scout still can mark targets for the snipers. But 16 seconds is too much. A few seconds is enough to flash the enemy, knows where he is so the sniper can kill him.
You don't need to mark the enemy 100% of the time.
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And you don't. The 16 second scanner doesn't scan as low as the other scanners. They all have different attributes.
Some go farther out, some appear on the tacnet longer, some go down to 28 db but only appear for a few seconds.
Might as well complain about nanohives while you are at it.[/quote]
There are 3 ISK variants for advanced scanners and they are basically the same. One is cheaper, the other costs less PG/CPU and the other lasts for 16 seconds. They all have the same precision. But the 16 seconds one is the one to go unless u didnt max your core skills to improve your PG/CPU. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:32:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I know some guys that are true killers say they like to see that they've been scanned. They basically just wait for the red dots to come to them and murder them.
While he waits the intelligent red dots camps the letter and he loses the game. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:35:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:This guy's complaining about being scanned when he has dampening to proto already....
I'm not complaining about being scanned, as I said I have proto dampeners and I'm using advanced scanner.
I'm not asking to remove it also, just to tweak it. I'm complaining about the duration of the scan.
Fire the scanner, light them up on the minimap for 4 secs max. It's still very useful and I will still use it.
16 seconds on the quantum scanner is enough to light them up 24/7. <- This is broken. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:43:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:zeluiz wrote:
16 seconds and then u just renew with another 16 seconds as soon as it's over = EASY MODE
If Scanners were EASY MODE, then everyone would use them. If everyone used them, then we'd back to Shared Sight. The only thing that has changed is that there is now benefit to having a Dampened Profile.
When everyone starts realizing how broken the scanner is now, we will be back to shared sight.
Except that no one will be able to take a dump behind cover because everyone will know about it. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:52:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:zeluiz wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:zeluiz wrote:
16 seconds and then u just renew with another 16 seconds as soon as it's over = EASY MODE
If Scanners were EASY MODE, then everyone would use them. If everyone used them, then we'd back to Shared Sight. The only thing that has changed is that there is now benefit to having a Dampened Profile. When everyone starts realizing how broken the scanner is now, we will be back to shared sight. Except that no one will be able to take a dump behind cover because everyone will know about it. Meaning a Dampened Profile will now make a difference. When Shared Sight was in play, it did not.
Of course it did.
I had profile dampener lv 5 and dropsuit command lv 5 (not sure if that was the name, which also reduced your profile)
and no modules on proto assault and red dots ignored me often. They could only see my red name when they aimed directly at me. |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:47:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Niuvo wrote:zeluiz wrote:I rarely post on forums but now I think it's a good cause. Pardon my english, I'm brazilian.
"You have been scanned" "You have been scanned" All the time.
I tried the advance for myself and it's a joke. It's OP and kills any tactics. Flanking is dead, now everyone knows where everyone else is at now. Why don't we just remove all covers from the map and shoot at each other in the open and whoever has the most HP/DPS wins.
The only way to counter that scanner I think it's to play a scout with dampener. Everyone else is doomed to stay forever on the enemy scan.
Either nerf the scanner to 2 seconds max (just to get a glimpse of the enemy is enough not this BS scanner)
or remove it entirely and put back team shared vision. Your english doesn't look bad  Agreed. Your English is perfect.
Thanks! I always liked RPGs and I played games like Ultima or Secret of Mana back in the day without any english knowledge.
Had to use a dictionary to advance in the game but it was soooo fun. Me and my friends just wondered what npcs were talking about but we knew the keywords to look for in the dictionary.
Later I took an english course for about one year then dropped it because videogames taught me enough.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:57:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
Not sure what you meant but...
I'm the one that is scanning everyone, I'm getting proto scanner next week, I have proto dampeners.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:28:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:LMAO This has to be the mother of all QQs. Before patch everybody appeared on radar and you didn't complain. Now that that silly thing is fixed you're complaining because they used a thing to catch you in radar? GTFO
-XOXO
I think u didn't read my other posts... It's ok.
But I'm still out of radar and I'm scanning everyone.
It's one thing to catch people on radar...
But to see them through walls it's easy mode.
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:01:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:zeluiz wrote:I have eletronics 5, dampening 5, range 5, and precision 3. But I dont use modules because my role is to assault. Oh, you are Assault? Then shut up and assault. Trigger puller, you don't have enough brains to scan or not be scanned. You are being paid to sponge and apply bullets to other sponges. Gah, people need to stop, think and try altering thier approach to the fight instead of instantly and constantly declaring everything they don't like as OP. Adapt and overcome. Or just whine until Darwin shuts you up
I have no idea what ur talking about. Huh? I'm using scanner/proto dampeners. Can u read?
That sentence is so out of context dude. I can switch to proto damps if I want. |
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:11:00 -
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The entire point of this thread is not to scan or to be scanned.
It's one thing to get caught in the minimap and another to track them in your actual vision.
X-Ray vision for 16, 25 seconds is too much. |
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:30:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:It seems like you're the only one here with a complaint. Maybe a couple of others, but that's it. Everyone else doesn't have a problem with the active scanners.
Well, it's just an opinion. Im not expecting everyone to agree with me, |
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