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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:27:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Im trying to prove a point in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112451&find=unreadbut everyones offering different formulas to calculate the damage, and instead of arguing it would be easier to get this on video. So if we can get anyone with a video record, and another person with a proto forge with at least profficentcy 3, then you can blow up one of my tanks and we can post it on that thread. Thanks
no need for video, the math is easy, proto assault forge gun with 3 dmg mods vs 40% resists =>
1512 base damage * 1.1 skill * 1.1 first dmg mod * 1.087 second damage mod * 1.057 third damage mod * 0.9 rails against shields * 0.6 resists = 1135 dmg per hit against the shields.
that is 5 hits to take out the shields and a final 6th hit to remove the remaining armor and kill the tank. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:33:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:no need for video, the math is easy, proto assault forge gun with 3 dmg mods vs 40% resists =>
1512 base damage * 1.1 skill * 1.1 first dmg mod * 1.087 second damage mod * 1.057 third damage mod * 1.1 shield weakness * 0.6 resists = 1387 dmg per hit against the shields.
that is 4 hits to take out the shields and a final 5th hit to remove the remaining armor and kill the tank.
A FG user can only use two damage mods, base damage on Proto Assault FG is 1663 and FGs do 90% against shields, not 110%. Other than that the math is pretty spot on, as I also showed Exmaple in the other thread.
yeah I just realized this. I corrected my math :) |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:40:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:yep. not everyone is on the same page though, want video Not my fault that you're not doing the right math on this  The math speaks for itself. Your guys math shows my tank dies in 5 shots. My math shows i die in 4, and so do the in game results. So really the only way to prove it is with a video
tank weakspot (under the tank and the rear parts)
I think dropship weakspots are the thrusters
and I am not aware if LAV have weakspots beside being able to shoot the driver out |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:48:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:since when could a heavy carry 3 DMG mods??
i only have 2 high slots on my proto suit so when did we get upgraded to 3 high slots?
that was just to prove the point.
if you take all his other whiny posts about tanks we can only conclude that he is in denial and butthurt about his loss.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:52:00 -
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there is only one flaw, your "math" is wrong. it is not even math, multipliers are obviously multipliers. nothing gets added or reduced when you MULTIPLY  |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:00:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Jack McReady wrote:there is only one flaw, your "math" is wrong. it is not even math, multipliers are obviously multipliers. nothing gets added or reduced when you MULTIPLY its the only way to show that my tank is actually getting 4 shotted. because it does get 4 shotted in game, not 5. unless theres some secret math somewere that we dont know about, like meta level?
there is no secrect math
here you have the formula for max dmg possible against 40% resist:
1663 base damage * 1.15 MAX skill * 1.1 first dmg mod * 1.087 second damage mod * 0.9 rails against shields * 0.6 resists = 1234 dmg per hit against the shields.
there are only two explanations:
- you are in denial
- you dont have 40% resist (you have not taken stacking penalty into account or are lying) |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
584
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:09:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Jack McReady wrote:there is only one flaw, your "math" is wrong. it is not even math, multipliers are obviously multipliers. nothing gets added or reduced when you MULTIPLY its the only way to show that my tank is actually getting 4 shotted. because it does get 4 shotted in game, not 5. unless theres some secret math somewere that we dont know about, like meta level? there is no secrect math here you have the formula for max dmg possible against 40% resist: 1663 base damage * 1.15 MAX skill * 1.1 first dmg mod * 1.087 second damage mod * 0.9 rails against shields * 0.6 resists = 1234 dmg per hit against the shields. there are only two explanations: - you are in denial - you dont have 40% resist because (you have not taken stacking penalty into account) lol and your dumb, tanks show you the exact amount of passive resist you have on your tank, and mine is 39.47%. i rounded up and rounded down on the forge damage
sure I am "dumb" because you are wrong... and we all know from the past that the calculated stats in game always show the correct number, right?
your tunnelvision and denial just reached a whole new level
Musta Tornius wrote:If you add me in game we can test it if you like, I've got prof V in forges. Only a samsung galaxy s2 phone for recording though but I can prop it up in front of the tv :P
what does that help? he will fake it and weaken his fit just to show he is "right". just take a look at all his other tank posts, full of denial and butthurt like this one.
it is already widely known that you need atleast 6 hits from swarms and forges to destroy a high sp tank with good fit, so please dont feed the troll. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.27 11:07:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:
wait wait. You tell me im delusional because im not accounting for stacking penaltys on my resist. I tell you i dont need to, because my tank accounts for me, that is already done. Then you reply yes, your even more delusional now. okay got it.
Now check this out: Earlier i said "unless there is some hidden math that none of us knows about..." and you said no, its all here. heres the math. Now you saying "and we all know from the past that the calculated states always show the correct number, right?" so you are agreeing with me.
So tell me im delsional for not applying resist penaltys. Penaltys are already pre calculated therefor i am even more delsonal. First thing you said in this qoute was: "sure i am dumb because you are wrong..." then lastly you agree with me.
wtf are you talking about? lol your dumb. get off my thread
I am just saying, post your fit and skills, then we can talk about math, and I mean real math, not the thing you think math is. someone else or me can calculate anything for you in just a few seconds.
but for now it is just obvious that you are a butthurt. |
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