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Exmaple Core
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:01:00 -
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Im trying to prove a point in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112451&find=unread
but everyones offering different formulas to calculate the damage, and instead of arguing it would be easier to get this on video. So if we can get anyone with a video record, and another person with a proto forge with at least profficentcy 3, then you can blow up one of my tanks and we can post it on that thread. Thanks |
Exmaple Core
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:09:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Im trying to prove a point in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112451&find=unreadbut everyones offering different formulas to calculate the damage, and instead of arguing it would be easier to get this on video. So if we can get anyone with a video record, and another person with a proto forge with at least profficentcy 3, then you can blow up one of my tanks and we can post it on that thread. Thanks Think it's kind of a moot point when there's (apparently) a glitch where a Forge Gunner can fire three rounds in short session.
all of my what?? |
Exmaple Core
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:30:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Im trying to prove a point in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112451&find=unreadbut everyones offering different formulas to calculate the damage, and instead of arguing it would be easier to get this on video. So if we can get anyone with a video record, and another person with a proto forge with at least profficentcy 3, then you can blow up one of my tanks and we can post it on that thread. Thanks no need for video, the math is easy, proto assault forge gun with 3 dmg mods vs 40% resists => 1512 base damage * 1.1 skill * 1.1 first dmg mod * 1.087 second damage mod * 1.057 third damage mod * 1.1 shield weakness * 0.6 resists = 1387 dmg per hit against the shields. that is 4 hits to take out the shields and a final 5th hit to remove the remaining armor and kill the tank.
Im often taken down in 4 shots. Video is preferred, math isent easy for everyone  its just easier for everyone this way |
Exmaple Core
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:32:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:no need for video, the math is easy, proto assault forge gun with 3 dmg mods vs 40% resists =>
1512 base damage * 1.1 skill * 1.1 first dmg mod * 1.087 second damage mod * 1.057 third damage mod * 1.1 shield weakness * 0.6 resists = 1387 dmg per hit against the shields.
that is 4 hits to take out the shields and a final 5th hit to remove the remaining armor and kill the tank.
A FG user can only use two damage mods, base damage on Proto Assault FG is 1663 and FGs do 90% against shields, not 110%. Other than that the math is pretty spot on, as I also showed Exmaple in the other thread.
yep. not everyone is on the same page though, want video |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:37:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:yep. not everyone is on the same page though, want video Not my fault that you're not doing the right math on this  The math speaks for itself.
Your guys math shows my tank dies in 5 shots. My math shows i die in 4, and so do the in game results. So really the only way to prove it is with a video |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:42:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:yep. not everyone is on the same page though, want video Not my fault that you're not doing the right math on this The math speaks for itself. Your guys math shows my tank dies in 5 shots. My math shows i die in 4, and so do the in game results. So really the only way to prove it is with a video tank weakspot bro. rear part of the tank takes more damage.
no from the front. If i was counting the weakspot i would have counted it in my calculations. In front sheilds, a proto forge will kill my tank in 4 shots |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:49:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:since when could a heavy carry 3 DMG mods??
i only have 2 high slots on my proto suit so when did we get upgraded to 3 high slots?
they changed the proto heavy sence i last used it in chrome, my bad. i corrected my math later on in the thread when someone pointed it out, its pretty early |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:51:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:since when could a heavy carry 3 DMG mods??
i only have 2 high slots on my proto suit so when did we get upgraded to 3 high slots? that was just to prove the point, even with 3 dmg mods it would take atleast 5 hits to down a 5k shield hp tank with 40% resists. if you take all his other whiny posts about tanks we can only conclude that he is in denial and butthurt about his loss.
im not butthurt, i agree that proto forge gunners should solo our standard tanks, its only balanced. But Djin says hes not able to do this on a shield tank with 2 clips and hes always trying to get tanks nerfed were im trying to get them balanced. Now that their looking at vehical rebalancing it would be good to get a nice few min video talking about what mods are being used, skills, weapons, so forth. im gona throw this qoute on this OP |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:55:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:there is only one flaw, your "math" is wrong. it is not even math, multipliers are obviously multipliers. nothing gets added or reduced when you MULTIPLY
its the only way to show that my tank is actually getting 4 shotted. because it does get 4 shotted in game, not 5. unless theres some secret math somewere that we dont know about, like meta level? |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:05:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Jack McReady wrote:there is only one flaw, your "math" is wrong. it is not even math, multipliers are obviously multipliers. nothing gets added or reduced when you MULTIPLY its the only way to show that my tank is actually getting 4 shotted. because it does get 4 shotted in game, not 5. unless theres some secret math somewere that we dont know about, like meta level? there is no secrect math here you have the formula for max dmg possible against 40% resist: 1663 base damage * 1.15 MAX skill * 1.1 first dmg mod * 1.087 second damage mod * 0.9 rails against shields * 0.6 resists = 1234 dmg per hit against the shields. there are only two explanations: - you are in denial - you dont have 40% resist because (you have not taken stacking penalty into account)
lol and your dumb, tanks show you the exact amount of passive resist you have on your tank, and mine is 39.47%. i rounded up and rounded down on the forge damage |
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Exmaple Core
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:10:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:If you add me in game we can test it if you like, I've got prof V in forges. Only a samsung galaxy s2 phone for recording though but I can prop it up in front of the tv :P
lolol we can use you for blowing up my tank, maken progress! go ahead and add me on PSN, im Captain Asswhole. Now all we need is someone with a recorder. Thanks bro! |
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:15:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Jack McReady wrote:there is only one flaw, your "math" is wrong. it is not even math, multipliers are obviously multipliers. nothing gets added or reduced when you MULTIPLY its the only way to show that my tank is actually getting 4 shotted. because it does get 4 shotted in game, not 5. unless theres some secret math somewere that we dont know about, like meta level? there is no secrect math here you have the formula for max dmg possible against 40% resist: 1663 base damage * 1.15 MAX skill * 1.1 first dmg mod * 1.087 second damage mod * 0.9 rails against shields * 0.6 resists = 1234 dmg per hit against the shields. there are only two explanations: - you are in denial - you dont have 40% resist because (you have not taken stacking penalty into account) lol and your dumb, tanks show you the exact amount of passive resist you have on your tank, and mine is 39.47%. i rounded up and rounded down on the forge damage sure I am "dumb" because you are wrong... and we all know from the past that the calculated stats in game always show the correct number, right? your tunnelvision and denial just reached a whole new level
wait wait. You tell me im delusional because im not accounting for stacking penaltys on my resist. I tell you i dont need to, because my tank accounts for me, that is already done. Then you reply yes, your even more delusional now. okay got it.
Now check this out: Earlier i said "unless there is some hidden math that none of us knows about..." and you said no, its all here. heres the math. Now you saying "and we all know from the past that the calculated states always show the correct number, right?" so you are agreeing with me.
So tell me im delsional for not applying resist penaltys. Penaltys are already pre calculated therefor i am even more delsonal. Then you agree with me and say "sure i am dumb because you are wrong..."
wtf are you talking about? lol your dumb. get off my thread |
Exmaple Core
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:19:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Like I said, I got a smartphone I can use, quality isn't awesome but it will easily now show clip size and everything.
nah lets get something quality to look at. make it easy |
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