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Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1832	Posted - 2013.09.26 21:50:00 - [1] - Quote expect to see more than 1 per team, per game. Or just set a higher threshold and disallow any squad from using more than one, where players WP stop contributing towards an orbital once any of their points have been spent on one (to halt squad hopping) Do you think NPE enjoys not just being wrecked for lack of ISK, SP, and experience but also then being nuked to boot. Just when they finally got their first kill and think, hey this game isn't so bad. At least I'm learning how to avoid death a bit, then they get nuked by a huge insta-kill AOE that they can't really dodge to finish off that 50-10 match.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3524	Posted - 2013.09.26 21:52:00 - [2] - Quote If the base mechanic were changed so it wasn't just a tool for pubstomping squads to stomp harder, that'd be a bit better than just removing it imo.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 180	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:06:00 - [3] - Quote My squad cumulatively earned the orbital strike, right? If you get OBed, spawnkilled some more and OBed again then that's your fault for continuously spawning on the ground spawn instead of spawning at the MCC, calling an LAV, hacking our back flag and leaving before we have a chance to get there. Do something productive that isn't running at the horde of guys who know what they are doing.
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1832	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:07:00 - [4] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: My squad cumulatively earned the orbital strike, right? If you get OBed, spawnkilled some more and OBed again then that's your fault for continuously spawning on the ground spawn instead of spawning at the MCC, calling an LAV, hacking our back flag and leaving before we have a chance to get there. Do something productive that isn't running at the horde of guys who know what they are doing. I was mostly talking about ambush, and this isn't an option
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 111	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:08:00 - [5] - Quote increasing wp requirement wont change anything as lots of vets could get one by themselves, if it was possible
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1832	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:14:00 - [6] - Quote Hellkeizer wrote: increasing wp requirement wont change anything as lots of vets could get one by themselves, if it was possible It absolutely demonstrably Would reduce the number of orbitals. The question is by how much or is that the most effective way to do it. You can't tell me there'd be the same OBs if it cost 5000 WP than 2500. Unless players split squads to get more, which they could do now if they wanted.
Cpl Foster USMC Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 223	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:26:00 - [7] - Quote Hellkeizer wrote: increasing wp requirement wont change anything as lots of vets could get one by themselves, if it was possible it's possible....
Rudy Vandersario Famous Wolf 57	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:31:00 - [8] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Hellkeizer wrote: increasing wp requirement wont change anything as lots of vets could get one by themselves, if it was possible It absolutely demonstrably Would reduce the number of orbitals. The question is by how much or is that the most effective way to do it. You can't tell me there'd be the same OBs if it cost 5000 WP than 2500. Unless players split squads to get more, which they could do now if they wanted. I would agree with you if orbitals were raining down like, well, rain, but that's not the case. They do happen regularly but not too often and both sides get them equally it seems to me. I don't think there's a problem. If you never get an orbital then squad up more I guess.
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 113	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:34:00 - [9] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Hellkeizer wrote: increasing wp requirement wont change anything as lots of vets could get one by themselves, if it was possible It absolutely demonstrably Would reduce the number of orbitals. The question is by how much or is that the most effective way to do it. You can't tell me there'd be the same OBs if it cost 5000 WP than 2500. Unless players split squads to get more, which they could do now if they wanted. whoops instead of "it won't" I should've said "might not", since we can't know until it happens
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1832	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:35:00 - [10] - Quote well I could get one myself. Did yesterday : /

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2310	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:40:00 - [11] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: expect to see more than 1 per team, per game. Or just set a higher threshold and disallow any squad from using more than one, where players WP stop contributing towards an orbital once any of their points have been spent on one (to halt squad hopping) Do you think NPE enjoys not just being wrecked for lack of ISK, SP, and experience but also then being nuked to boot. Just when they finally got their first kill and think, hey this game isn't so bad. At least I'm learning how to avoid death a bit, then they get nuked by a huge insta-kill AOE that they can't really dodge to finish off that 50-10 match. Okay but only if they give me Medium and Large Tactical Shot. If I'm only going to get one per match, I want my shots to nuke the battlefield. Cleanse it of all like, and turn day to night!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4299	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:42:00 - [12] - Quote You weren't here back then when orbitals use to be one per minute. You weren't here back then when orbitals were stacked using a suicide exploit. You weren't here back then when repair tools, nanohives, and self-inflicted vehicle damage pumped out so much WP that orbitals were farmed. If you think orbitals are bad now, you're lucky you weren't here back then. Besides, CCP is constantly adjusting orbitals every now and then. Eventually they'll find the perfect balance that isn't easy to exploit.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 367	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:42:00 - [13] - Quote The only time I've seen that it's a problem is when a 3 man squad got 2 orbitals IN AN AMBUSH. One guy went 26-1 -_-
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 680	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:46:00 - [14] - Quote Winning and getting something that makes you win much much more...
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4299	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:46:00 - [15] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: The only time I've seen that it's a problem is when a 3 man squad got 2 orbitals IN AN AMBUSH. One guy went 26-1 -_- Either they were really good or their opponents were really bad.
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 98	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:51:00 - [16] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: expect to see more than 1 per team, per game. Or just set a higher threshold and disallow any squad from using more than one, where players WP stop contributing towards an orbital once any of their points have been spent on one (to halt squad hopping) Do you think NPE enjoys not just being wrecked for lack of ISK, SP, and experience but also then being nuked to boot. Just when they finally got their first kill and think, hey this game isn't so bad. At least I'm learning how to avoid death a bit, then they get nuked by a huge insta-kill AOE that they can't really dodge to finish off that 50-10 match. Your issue indirectly is caused by the Logi endless equipment drop bug/exploit. Players are making way to much WP for equipment drops. 5 newb squad spam dropping militia spawn points all match will get 2+ orbitals a match (depending on type). You will see them in the top 1-5 rank with like 2-10 +1500 WPs #1 place. They flame me for saying this but its a issue that needs to be addressed.
Washlee native warlords 295	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:12:00 - [17] - Quote if im going off in a squad of vets we could all get one OB. I've seen it done before but only in lengthy matches. In ambush sometimes we pull 3 with a full squad but we have to be tearing **** up.
TunRa New Age Pirates 204	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:16:00 - [18] - Quote You do know that the title is supposed to be the topic you post is about. It is not a place to start a sentence that you then finish in the space where you write your sentences.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 493	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:27:00 - [19] - Quote terrible idea.
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 137	Posted - 2013.09.27 00:28:00 - [20] - Quote They just need to make the OBs so they can't be aimed within the red zones, or at least the enemy spawn. I have a whole list of complaints about the spawn not being as safe as it should be.



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