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Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:13:00 -
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From the squad finder dev blog:
Quote:Disruption game play for adhoc groups of players to participate more in the meta game Is it just me or does this sound distinctly like there's going to be something to do that other players can 'disrupt'; perhaps something like PVE! please, please, please soon[tm] CCP |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1459
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:17:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:From the squad finder dev blog: Quote:Disruption game play for adhoc groups of players to participate more in the meta game Is it just me or does this sound distinctly like there's going to be something to do that other players can 'disrupt'; perhaps something like PVE! please, please, please soon[tm] CCP
The meta game? Hmm. My first thought wouldn't be PVE but around here metagame could be anything. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3507
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:21:00 -
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We're all so desperate for PVE... It's kind of sad. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:24:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:From the squad finder dev blog: Quote:Disruption game play for adhoc groups of players to participate more in the meta game Is it just me or does this sound distinctly like there's going to be something to do that other players can 'disrupt'; perhaps something like PVE! please, please, please soon[tm] CCP
"Disruption" equals things like AWOX, corp theft, selling intel to the enemy, etc. Things that would "disurpt" a corp's operations either in match or out of match. |
Oscar Neymar
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:25:00 -
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All of it is just supposition at this time |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
504
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:28:00 -
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Don't waste your time speculating the coming of PVE (any time before 2016), you are going to leave yourself disappointed and depressed; Dont believe me? Ask the vets who have been here longer than I have. They have been promised a lot more than PVE, and get almost nothing in return. |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
127
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:31:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:We're all so desperate for PVE... It's kind of sad.
Not me, Im perfectly fine blasting people. Different game modes to blast people would be nice, though, and beat pve for me. I just hope that the disruption gameplay has somethimg to do with that, like being able to sabotage a PC district or something. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1825
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:33:00 -
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Aleksander Black wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:We're all so desperate for PVE... It's kind of sad. Not me, Im perfectly fine blasting people. Different game modes to blast people would be nice, though, and beat pve for me. I just hope that the disruption gameplay has somethimg to do with that, like being able to sabotage a PC district or something.
Taken out of context it can mean anything. If I say I like cheese, out of context, you are missing the part where I only like cheese on the hamburger.
In context, disruption by a player joining a squad joining a match would be someone who is disrupting that squads advitivies in the match - public, FW, or PC. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1544
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:21:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Aleksander Black wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:We're all so desperate for PVE... It's kind of sad. Not me, Im perfectly fine blasting people. Different game modes to blast people would be nice, though, and beat pve for me. I just hope that the disruption gameplay has somethimg to do with that, like being able to sabotage a PC district or something. Taken out of context it can mean anything. If I say I like cheese, out of context, you are missing the part where I only like cheese on the hamburger. In context, disruption by a player joining a squad joining a match would be someone who is disrupting that squads advitivies in the match - public, FW, or PC. If there's space and the squad isn't locked, you can already join someones squad. How can you then "disrupt" them and how does that come into anything meta?
To me it seems you can only disrupt others if they're doing something that doesn't already involve you. With all current game modes everyone is engaged with the enemy team in one way or another - there's nothing to do to disrupt that isn't already the main point of the game.
Thus, the only conclusion must be that disruption play implies new game modes that offer activities to be "disrupted". |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1544
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:25:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Don't waste your time speculating the coming of PVE (any time before 2016), you are going to leave yourself disappointed and depressed; Dont believe me? Ask the vets who have been here longer than I have. They have been promised a lot more than PVE, and get almost nothing in return. Been here well over a year buddy. Seen my fair share of faded hopes and distant teases disappear. But then it's been a long time since it's been mentioned, so maybe they've been quietly and secretly working away on it in the background...
We can but dream. |
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:27:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Aleksander Black wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:We're all so desperate for PVE... It's kind of sad. Not me, Im perfectly fine blasting people. Different game modes to blast people would be nice, though, and beat pve for me. I just hope that the disruption gameplay has somethimg to do with that, like being able to sabotage a PC district or something. Taken out of context it can mean anything. If I say I like cheese, out of context, you are missing the part where I only like cheese on the hamburger. In context, disruption by a player joining a squad joining a match would be someone who is disrupting that squads advitivies in the match - public, FW, or PC. If there's space and the squad isn't locked, you can already join someones squad. How can you then "disrupt" them and how does that come into anything meta? To me it seems you can only disrupt others if they're doing something that doesn't already involve you. With all current game modes everyone is engaged with the enemy team in one way or another - there's nothing to do to disrupt that isn't already the main point of the game. Thus, the only conclusion must be that disruption play implies new game modes that offer activities to be "disrupted".
Today, you can only join a squad once the match starts. After 1.5, however, you can find squads to join before the match starts.
Let's say Dust2Dust is having a PC battle, but there are only a few people online from the corp or from Top Men. To defend your district, you decide to advertise a public squad because you are desparate (again this is just a hypothetical). Well, what if I saw this from the other side - I jump on an alt and join your squad. I then proceed to kill you.
Disruption.
This is just the quick and obvious example of how to use this to disrupt, but there are others too I'm sure, for the creative merc.
Also, I think you are reading too much into what he says. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1544
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:30:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Django Quik wrote:From the squad finder dev blog: Quote:Disruption game play for adhoc groups of players to participate more in the meta game Is it just me or does this sound distinctly like there's going to be something to do that other players can 'disrupt'; perhaps something like PVE! please, please, please soon[tm] CCP "Disruption" equals things like AWOX, corp theft, selling intel to the enemy, etc. Things that would "disurpt" a corp's operations either in match or out of match. All possible true but with the tiny limitations on what can be done currently, adding disruptive mechanics to corp operations without adding more game modes to facilitate meaningful corp operations would be pointless. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
768
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:35:00 -
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Sounds more like awoxing, especially with the new TCO roles. A TCO invites his squad into a PC battle against his real corp, they turn on the blues, to make reds job easier! |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1832
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:42:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Sounds more like awoxing, especially with the new TCO roles. A TCO invites his squad into a PC battle against his real corp, they turn on the blues, to make reds job easier!
This. |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
113
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:46:00 -
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So there's really not going to be a difference since those that play in squads usually are in one and solo players play solo. Unless squads could combine together |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
769
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:48:00 -
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Hellkeizer wrote:So there's really not going to be a difference since those that play in squads usually are in one and solo players play solo. Unless squads could combine together
I imagine this will happen but prehaps as an ewar kinda thing, but yeah you'll be able to stack squads! |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
113
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:53:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Hellkeizer wrote:So there's really not going to be a difference since those that play in squads usually are in one and solo players play solo. Unless squads could combine together I imagine this will happen but prehaps as an ewar kinda thing, but yeah you'll be able to stack squads! Okay then it's not a waste of time that I first thought it was |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1544
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:54:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Sounds more like awoxing, especially with the new TCO roles. A TCO invites his squad into a PC battle against his real corp, they turn on the blues, to make reds job easier! I don't understand. This implies a TCO role was given to an untrustworthy player. I really don't think this is the kind of thing that can be classed as disruptive play and would hardly be something new that TTG would list as something they're working on. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1833
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:57:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Sounds more like awoxing, especially with the new TCO roles. A TCO invites his squad into a PC battle against his real corp, they turn on the blues, to make reds job easier! I don't understand. This implies a TCO role was given to an untrustworthy player. I really don't think this is the kind of thing that can be classed as disruptive play and would hardly be something new that TTG would list as something they're working on.
It happens. Trust me it can happen. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2311
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:59:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Django Quik wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Sounds more like awoxing, especially with the new TCO roles. A TCO invites his squad into a PC battle against his real corp, they turn on the blues, to make reds job easier! I don't understand. This implies a TCO role was given to an untrustworthy player. I really don't think this is the kind of thing that can be classed as disruptive play and would hardly be something new that TTG would list as something they're working on. It happens. Trust me it can happen. Entire billion ISK and thousand player corps and alliances can and are torn down by one person simply saying
"I wonder if I can"
"**** this"
"Oh he's paying X amount more"
Trust is not a word thrown around EVE lightly, and sooner of later Dust as well. |
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1833
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:02:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Django Quik wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Sounds more like awoxing, especially with the new TCO roles. A TCO invites his squad into a PC battle against his real corp, they turn on the blues, to make reds job easier! I don't understand. This implies a TCO role was given to an untrustworthy player. I really don't think this is the kind of thing that can be classed as disruptive play and would hardly be something new that TTG would list as something they're working on. It happens. Trust me it can happen. Entire billion ISK and thousand player corps and alliances can and are torn down by one person simply saying "I wonder if I can" "**** this" "Oh he's paying X amount more" Trust is not a word thrown around EVE lightly, and sooner of later Dust as well.
Truth from an Amarr. Wonders never cease |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1544
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:06:00 -
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Im thinking more along the lines of like a proper MMO with pick up groups for raiding. Like jumping into someones district to disrupt their clone supply or attacking a group who are mining for resources. Everything you guys have mentioned has already been done before and if that really is all this tease of info amounts to, that'll be really disappointing. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1544
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:11:00 -
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And i do understand how the whole infiltrate and sabotage stuff works, don't get me wrong. I just don't think that's what this is all about because it's already here, so why would Nullabor be listing it as something they're working on for the future? |
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