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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.26 09:12:00 -
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U guys think it will self repair armor ? And do u think it will have equipment slot ? DISCUSS   |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.26 09:14:00 -
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It will probably be about as fast as the commando, and have an equally worthless tank.
Expect an arbitrary bonus to melee damage or something equally useless. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
1029
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:15:00 -
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expect to be able to strap red potions and green potions to it and LOL running heavy |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:17:00 -
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The shield tanked heavies from Chromosome were the Minmatar heavy prototype. |
Cpl Foster USMC
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
220
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:40:00 -
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never gonna get it, so why bother dreaming bout it.... |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
61
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:45:00 -
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If the medium suits are anything to go by, this would be the fastest but lowest HP suit, which doesn't really fit with usual heavy tactics. But if the bonuses are built in repair and some kind of useful HMG bonus (e.g. damage increase or spread reduction), which would be logical, this could still be a very nice suit. |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
227
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:53:00 -
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Yes, it'll probably have a 1hp/s armor repair built in.
No, it probably won't have an equipment slot. Why would it?
Also, Cosgar, why do you feel the B-series from Chromosome were Minmatar prototypes, and not Caldari? Was it said somewhere? |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.09.26 15:59:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Also, Cosgar, why do you feel the B-series from Chromosome were Minmatar prototypes, and not Caldari? Was it said somewhere?
Just thinking from a lore standpoint. Minmatar suits seem to follow EVE battle philosophy to a T- hit and run tactics with burst tanking. I can see the Minmatar heavy as the squishiest in the class, trading a huge buffer for high shield regen and mobility. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:12:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:If the medium suits are anything to go by, this would be the fastest but lowest HP suit, which doesn't really fit with usual heavy tactics. But if the bonuses are built in repair and some kind of useful HMG bonus (e.g. damage increase or spread reduction), which would be logical, this could still be a very nice suit.
Yeah, you have to wonder about those roles I guess. Same with Amarr Scout (slowest but highest hp?).
A faster Heavy sounds more useful, though balancing the stats against competition (slower assaults?) is questionable. An Amarr Sentinel has 5 slots at PRO, so if they do the "other races get +1 slot" bit, that's the same number of slots on a Minmatar Heavy as an Amarr Assault (6), and if it's about 10% faster (that average for the assault/logi difference with Amarr/Minmatar), that's a move speed around 4.1.
Perhaps a more interesting thought might be a Minmatar Commando, by the same metric... about 4.4 speed (just under an Amarr Logi). If the Minmatar heavy has far fewer than an Amarr (800-ish), and the Commando has far less than the regular heavy (about 62% of the regular heavy, 500 vs. 800), then what does that mean for a Minmatar Commando?
Well, with Assault/Logistics, a Minmatar suit has about 80% of the hp value of the equivalent Amarr suit. Same ratio would peg a Minmatar heavy at 640 eHP base. Same ratio for Commando would give a Minmatar Commando about 400 ehp, or about 40 more hp than an Amarr Assault. It would be slower than the Amarr assault though, and presumably have 4 module slots at Proto (same as STD Caldari).
Mind you, the commando is a horrible suit as-is, so perhaps they'll fix that before they use it as a template for other races. |
Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1715
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:23:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:The shield tanked heavies from Chromosome were the Minmatar heavy prototype.
This. Imagine 4-5 highslots so that it can take a really good buffer, or some pretty ddecent regen speed as well. That on top of probably having some sort of buff to the HMG. Plus if it is about commando speed, and you put stamina/kincats in the lows, it will definitely be a serious contender for doing come real suppressive work. Also, to balance, heavies have normally gotten a longer regen delay and lower base regen rate. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5480
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:26:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Cosgar wrote:The shield tanked heavies from Chromosome were the Minmatar heavy prototype. This. Imagine 4-5 highslots so that it can take a really good buffer, or some pretty ddecent regen speed as well. That on top of probably having some sort of buff to the HMG. Plus if it is about commando speed, and you put stamina/kincats in the lows, it will definitely be a serious contender for doing come real suppressive work.
I agree on everything except the commando suit. I'd rather see each races specialized heavy frames bring something different to the table instead of emulating what we already have. |
Vesago Ghostcore
Rejected Clones
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:31:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:
The equipment slot will be for rolls of duct tape, which will completely repair the suit in a few seconds.
If you go with standard minmatar theory, it should be a light suit with a heavy weapon slot. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:46:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:
I predict 4highs 2lows. Sentinel gets 3high 3low. The Sentinel will be the king of the HMG. And the suit itself will be hopeless without something mad like a speed-fit. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1587
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:48:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:The shield tanked heavies from Chromosome were the Minmatar heavy prototype.
I thought it was the Amarr. The Armour tanked heavies were pretty much Gallente, hey only had 100shield if I remember correctly. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:49:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: I predict 4highs 2lows. Sentinel gets 3high 3low. The Sentinel will be the king of the HMG. And the suit itself will be hopeless without something mad like a speed-fit.
In order for that to work out, the HMG would need some additional love. I've been thinking about something to give it a snare effect since the initial dispersion is so high. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.09.26 19:02:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Cosgar wrote:The shield tanked heavies from Chromosome were the Minmatar heavy prototype. I thought it was the Amarr. The Armour tanked heavies were pretty much Gallente, hey only had 100shield if I remember correctly.
You're thinking of the T-I and A-Series. T-II and B-Series had front loaded shields and more mobility. |
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