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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.26 02:33:00 -
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3.55 logi 23,000 kills, my tanker char 15.62 with 4300 kills, my assault/heavy char 3.62 with about 7000 kills |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:07:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Remember. K-D ratio does not directly equal Player skill.
a Sniper will always have a higher K-D ratio than a Frontline man. a Person who has used ALL FOTM will have a higher K-D ratio than people who didnt.... There is also STAT Padding,that we have a LOT.... People ALWAYS playing in squads will naturally have higher K-D ratio than lone wolves, etc.... Its a nice stat,just not definitive.
K-D ratio is just one of the stats to look into while rating a merc.
1 K-D should be the standard, making evey clone you use from you team equal to one you take from the enemy. Just saying.... Uplinks-repairing-reviving-rtanking-sniping-using a dropship etc... are all as important than kills
Just saying :3
For me if someone doesn't have a 1.50 kd by 6000 kills regardless of class they suck the floor too much, someone who dies that often is generally no good or helpful for anyone and them self. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
For me if someone doesn't have a 1.50 kd by 6000 kills regardless of class they suck the floor too much, someone who dies that often is generally no good or helpful for anyone and them self.
1 K-D ratio is NOT dying too much. Is dying the same as you kill.
Well I guess our opinions are relative to how good we both are then, in a game based on teamwork I'd want reliable slayers by my side, not gun ho cannon fodder. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:37:00 -
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BLAAAASTER wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Posting in epeen/lack of epeen thread. 8.9 must not actually play in PC then Huh?
PC is nothing compared to corp battles and those are long gone, those were highly competitive. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:41:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
For me if someone doesn't have a 1.50 kd by 6000 kills regardless of class they suck the floor too much, someone who dies that often is generally no good or helpful for anyone and them self.
1 K-D ratio is NOT dying too much. Is dying the same as you kill. Well I guess our opinions are relative to how good we both are then, in a game based on teamwork I'd want reliable slayers by my side, not gun ho cannon fodder. My K-D ratio is 2.8I play solo vs full squads 90% of the time Im not FOTM I dont pad stats I dont pub stomp nor PROTObear
I prefer someone who revives meputs uplinks and gives me ammo than just killers, because Teamwork> Killers. How many times have i been in a team full of randoms taht all went negative while the other team were all highly positive (25-2 / 30-4, etc...) AND WE STILL WON? yeah....Keep your killers, i want to win.
That's most likely because the other team just wants to farm kills, gun ho cannon fodder is more isk. Realise
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:44:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
For me if someone doesn't have a 1.50 kd by 6000 kills regardless of class they suck the floor too much, someone who dies that often is generally no good or helpful for anyone and them self.
1 K-D ratio is NOT dying too much. Is dying the same as you kill. Well I guess our opinions are relative to how good we both are then, in a game based on teamwork I'd want reliable slayers by my side, not gun ho cannon fodder. My K-D ratio is 2.8I play solo vs full squads 90% of the time Im not FOTM I dont pad stats I dont pub stomp nor PROTObear
I prefer someone who revives meputs uplinks and gives me ammo than just killers, because Teamwork> Killers. How many times have i been in a team full of randoms taht all went negative while the other team were all highly positive (25-2 / 30-4, etc...) AND WE STILL WON? yeah....Keep your killers, i want to win.
On that note any newblet can medic, a decent logi is proficient at that and killing, I'd much rather that than a squishy gimp servant who dies when I need them. I am a logi..... |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:45:00 -
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Yeah I do know, like about 80Gäà of the player base |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:47:00 -
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And yes I see you soloing all the time in fw, you should join pie inc if your pro amarr, I'm gallente or duct tape |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:54:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:And yes I see you soloing all the time in fw, you should join pie inc if your pro amarr, I'm gallente or duct tape I only play Amarr. And yes i have seen your squads aroudn playing for Duct tape rep..... No. Pie Inc might be Amarr,but they are EVE strong, im not sure about DUST.....Randoms need me more than any corp....So do my 0.3 K-D ratio Real life friends,who ty to people like you dont have anyone to play with them. I even made them a corp XD
How is it my fault in any way that people may not have people to play with? |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:17:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:And yes I see you soloing all the time in fw, you should join pie inc if your pro amarr, I'm gallente or duct tape I only play Amarr. And yes i have seen your squads aroudn playing for Duct tape rep..... No. Pie Inc might be Amarr,but they are EVE strong, im not sure about DUST.....Randoms need me more than any corp....So do my 0.3 K-D ratio Real life friends,who ty to people like you dont have anyone to play with them. I even made them a corp XD How is it my fault in any way that people may not have people to play with? People close minded that only wants killers in their corps. Well im sorry i dont even know you and im judging ;im apologizing. But in true nature,. these friends of mine are great support,even surpass me sometimes in WP gained,but not all of them are very good at killing,and because people dont want to play with nobody BUT killers,they seem to lack a place in Dust.
Thats what i meant and again,i did not mean to disrespec.My bad.
I allow logos in my corp to ride the pure support train until they get proto, then I push them to start getting better at killing and then finally try to teach the the art of gauging whether to whip out the rep tool or go for the gun, as a logi there is nothing more annoying than watching another logo trying to rep through impossible DPs. My fking tablet thinks it decides what I want to type, skynet here we come Lol. If it turns out they are not good at killing I expect them to not put themselves at risk because they are no good dead. I do push my guys to get better but not to the point where I'm being a dk. |
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote: I allow logos in my corp to ride the pure support train until they get proto, then I push them to start getting better at killing and then finally try to teach the the art of gauging whether to whip out the rep tool or go for the gun, as a logi there is nothing more annoying than watching another logo trying to rep through impossible DPs. My fking tablet thinks it decides what I want to type, skynet here we come Lol. If it turns out they are not good at killing I expect them to not put themselves at risk because they are no good dead. I do push my guys to get better but not to the point where I'm being a dk.
Fair enough.There by, 1 K-D ratio serves your purpose for a LOGO. :3
I expect improvement and anyone should strive for it I believe. If people strive to improve they help not only themselves but more importantly their team mates . A 1 kd to me means they need advice and some guidance. |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:26:00 -
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Oh and it also means they don't have good gear yet as it is a big factor in dust. |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:32:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote: I allow logos in my corp to ride the pure support train until they get proto, then I push them to start getting better at killing and then finally try to teach the the art of gauging whether to whip out the rep tool or go for the gun, as a logi there is nothing more annoying than watching another logo trying to rep through impossible DPs. My fking tablet thinks it decides what I want to type, skynet here we come Lol. If it turns out they are not good at killing I expect them to not put themselves at risk because they are no good dead. I do push my guys to get better but not to the point where I'm being a dk.
Fair enough.There by, 1 K-D ratio serves your purpose for a LOGO. :3 I expect improvement and anyone should strive for it I believe. If people strive to improve they help not only themselves but more importantly their team mates . A 1 kd to me means they need advice and some guidance. Ok fair enough. But still usable? YES. Thats my point. everybody improves. You are looking at a fail lord who used to have a 0.5 K-D ratio WHILE PLAYING WITH A CLAN... I improved,and im still improving, my K-D ratio improves 0.01 every 2 games.... EVERYBODY improves.... My point is FOR ME, a 1 k-d ratio is more than enough to join arms with me. I can take care of the rest,if they AT LEAST push or help in other ways.
Yes totally, I was thinking in absolute terms a bit too much, was a fun discussion . See you on the fields :) |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:30:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:kdr means nothing
What's your opinion on some one who has just 2000 kills and almost 7000 deaths? This is someone I know. |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:43:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Remember. K-D ratio does not directly equal Player skill.
a Sniper will always have a higher K-D ratio than a Frontline man. a Person who has used ALL FOTM will have a higher K-D ratio than people who didnt.... There is also STAT Padding,that we have a LOT.... People ALWAYS playing in squads will naturally have higher K-D ratio than lone wolves, etc.... Its a nice stat,just not definitive.
K-D ratio is just one of the stats to look into while rating a merc.
1 K-D should be the standard, making evey clone you use from you team equal to one you take from the enemy. Just saying.... Uplinks-repairing-reviving-rtanking-sniping-using a dropship etc... are all as important than kills
Just saying :3 For me if someone doesn't have a 1.50 kd by 6000 kills regardless of class they suck the floor too much, someone who dies that often is generally no good or helpful for anyone and them self. Lmao, no Tech tell us how you really feel.....
I'd rather not, im trying to be nice lol |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:45:00 -
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I had a discussion on this thread, check that out to see what I think, basically if people don't improve they are no good |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 17:08:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:kdr means nothing What's your opinion on some one who has just 2000 kills and almost 7000 deaths? This is someone I know. depends on what roles they play. when i was dedicated av i was always in the negative but so was the other guy now i'm a logi i'm always in the positive
I'm skilling into the gallente logic to get back into my medic roots.
My amarr logo carries injector, nanohives and scanner. |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:50:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:Any KDR above a 10 in DUST514 probably translates to a 2.7 or 3.0 on any other game.
2.0 in DUST514 could very well be a 1.25 or 1.5 in any other game
chances are if you're 1:1 in DUST you'll probably be negative in any other game.
That's rubbish, any fps where one bullet kills in the hands of a decent fps player is easy as fk, hitscan for me is way more challenging as I have to keep fire on a target longer. That's just my opinion though, I used to think otherwise.
Remember low gravity jumpmatch with instagib or sniper match on UT goty edition? Fk yeah |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.28 18:57:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:IF you pub stomp all day, you get a high padded KDR even in militia gear... The average FPS talent in pub's these day's is atrocious... Back in Chromosome we had some of the best FPS players from Mag, Soccom, CoD, Bf3...
Every pub match was what I see in PC matches against well known entities. The level of talent hanging around DUST pub's these day's is concerning... to the point where I often wonder if it's an actual human being behind the control's or an AI turned onto "idiot" setting.
Its so easy to get crazy high scores with very little death's, almost more then ever... just purely because the lack of competition. Often making the best slayer's left in the game be complacent and play with little to no effort.
Anyone PC'ing against decent competition will loose KDR, anyone pubbing mainly will gain drastic KDR.
Edit*When any slayer solo's instead of with "proto stomping buddies" they will get more kills because they don't have to share them... Hit and run tactic's are better as well as you don't have to risk your life to save your buddy much.
Play fw, it's more challenging on average and people really go at it, granted there's matches that are redline quick but people fight with way more gusto than regular pubs. |
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Posted - 2013.09.28 19:03:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Bethhy wrote:IF you pub stomp all day, you get a high padded KDR even in militia gear... The average FPS talent in pub's these day's is atrocious... Back in Chromosome we had some of the best FPS players from Mag, Soccom, CoD, Bf3...
Every pub match was what I see in PC matches against well known entities. The level of talent hanging around DUST pub's these day's is concerning... to the point where I often wonder if it's an actual human being behind the control's or an AI turned onto "idiot" setting.
Its so easy to get crazy high scores with very little death's, almost more then ever... just purely because the lack of competition. Often making the best slayer's left in the game be complacent and play with little to no effort.
Anyone PC'ing against decent competition will loose KDR, anyone pubbing mainly will gain drastic KDR.
Edit*When any slayer solo's instead of with "proto stomping buddies" they will get more kills because they don't have to share them... Hit and run tactic's are better as well as you don't have to risk your life to save your buddy much. Play fw, it's more challenging on average and people really go at it, granted there's matches that are redline quick but people fight with way more gusto than regular pubs. FW is far worse of a talent pool. This is well known as a better place then normal pub's to pad your KDR..
I play against proto squads all the time, plus I only like skirmish and am into the lore.
Also cubs and his beast squad play for caldari or amarr and running into them is fun. |
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.09.28 19:20:00 -
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Nah, your opinion is not fact, everytime I go into regular skirmish it's faceroll easy and boring.
In fw I continuously face proto or stacked proto teams and also our eve pilots are Minnie or gallente. People fight like madmen in fw most of the time, and im talking from experience not opinion, fw used to be as easy as you stated but it's way better now, granted theres easy as hell redline matches but far less than random pubs, again this from my experience not just my opinion based on how I feel. |
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:39:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Nah, your opinion is not fact, everytime I go into regular skirmish it's faceroll easy and boring.
In fw I continuously face proto or stacked proto teams and also our eve pilots are Minnie or gallente. People fight like madmen in fw most of the time, and im talking from experience not opinion, fw used to be as easy as you stated but it's way better now, granted theres easy as hell redline matches but far less than random pubs, again this from my experience not just my opinion based on how I feel. If your basing skilled FPS players on proto suit's... then enough said.
I'm not but people tend to be good by the time they have proto, your a douche lol |
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:52:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Nah, your opinion is not fact, everytime I go into regular skirmish it's faceroll easy and boring.
In fw I continuously face proto or stacked proto teams and also our eve pilots are Minnie or gallente. People fight like madmen in fw most of the time, and im talking from experience not opinion, fw used to be as easy as you stated but it's way better now, granted theres easy as hell redline matches but far less than random pubs, again this from my experience not just my opinion based on how I feel. If your basing skilled FPS players on proto suit's... then enough said.
Correction your being a douche, im sure your an ok person. |
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:04:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:kdr means literally nothing in this game, with controls out of wack and little to no balance between weapons and suits...
The turn acceleration is what I hate, but most of all the rendering issues and lag as f**k pc battles, even when its been a win I just cool so the other team lagged more and got random boots this time. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:36:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Bethhy wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Nah, your opinion is not fact, everytime I go into regular skirmish it's faceroll easy and boring.
In fw I continuously face proto or stacked proto teams and also our eve pilots are Minnie or gallente. People fight like madmen in fw most of the time, and im talking from experience not opinion, fw used to be as easy as you stated but it's way better now, granted theres easy as hell redline matches but far less than random pubs, again this from my experience not just my opinion based on how I feel. If your basing skilled FPS players on proto suit's... then enough said. Correction your being a douche, im sure your an ok person. Aww muffin did you loose that one and resort to name calling? someone need a tissue?
No, it was an observation rather than pointless name calling, try reading previous threads.
What's the matter sweet cheeks, you that insignificant you have to patronize people on a game forum? |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:38:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Bethhy wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Nah, your opinion is not fact, everytime I go into regular skirmish it's faceroll easy and boring.
In fw I continuously face proto or stacked proto teams and also our eve pilots are Minnie or gallente. People fight like madmen in fw most of the time, and im talking from experience not opinion, fw used to be as easy as you stated but it's way better now, granted theres easy as hell redline matches but far less than random pubs, again this from my experience not just my opinion based on how I feel. If your basing skilled FPS players on proto suit's... then enough said. Correction your being a douche, im sure your an ok person. Aww muffin did you loose that one and resort to name calling? someone need a tissue?
In fact you purposefully missed out alot, you are pathetic and probably an alt.
Congratulations. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:49:00 -
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Dimmu Borgir II wrote:Mine looks horrible, you have to look at it through a mirror or you turn to stone... But then again, i don't and didn't ever give a crap about my kd ratio, I'm super aggressive and stupid when it comes to getting into fights. I just play to get objectives and unless we're low on clones (when I'll try my best to survive) my KD ratio is the sacrificial goat for the win.
Iv got some dimmu borgir on an old devils music kerrang cd, not a big fan of the rasping death vocals but the instrumental side is amazing. |
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