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Posted - 2013.09.26 02:28:00 -
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MAD MAX 514 wrote:As I get better my K/D has gone from 0.32 to 0.86 and yes, there's totally room for improvement!!!
Good for you bro! I havnt checked mine in a while. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 02:39:00 -
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Remember. K-D ratio does not directly equal Player skill.
a Sniper will always have a higher K-D ratio than a Frontline man. a Person who has used ALL FOTM will have a higher K-D ratio than people who didnt.... There is also STAT Padding,that we have a LOT.... People ALWAYS playing in squads will naturally have higher K-D ratio than lone wolves, etc.... Its a nice stat,just not definitive.
K-D ratio is just one of the stats to look into while rating a merc.
1 K-D should be the standard, making evey clone you use from you team equal to one you take from the enemy. Just saying.... Uplinks-repairing-reviving-rtanking-sniping-using a dropship etc... are all as important than kills
Just saying :3 |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:20:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:
For me if someone doesn't have a 1.50 kd by 6000 kills regardless of class they suck the floor too much, someone who dies that often is generally no good or helpful for anyone and them self.
1 K-D ratio is NOT dying too much. Is dying the same as you kill. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:36:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
For me if someone doesn't have a 1.50 kd by 6000 kills regardless of class they suck the floor too much, someone who dies that often is generally no good or helpful for anyone and them self.
1 K-D ratio is NOT dying too much. Is dying the same as you kill. Well I guess our opinions are relative to how good we both are then, in a game based on teamwork I'd want reliable slayers by my side, not gun ho cannon fodder.
My K-D ratio is 2.8
I play solo vs full squads 90% of the time Im not FOTM I dont pad stats I dont pub stomp nor PROTObear
I prefer someone who revives meputs uplinks and gives me ammo than just killers, because Teamwork> Killers.
How many times have i been in a team full of randoms taht all went negative while the other team were all highly positive (25-2 / 30-4, etc...) AND WE STILL WON? yeah....Keep your killers, i want to win. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:43:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:
That's most likely because the other team just wants to farm kills, gun ho cannon fodder is more isk. Realise
You would know..... |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:49:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:And yes I see you soloing all the time in fw, you should join pie inc if your pro amarr, I'm gallente or duct tape
I only play Amarr. And yes i have seen your squads aroudn playing for Duct tape rep..... No. Pie Inc might be Amarr,but they are EVE strong, im not sure about DUST.....
Randoms need me more than any corp....So do my 0.3 K-D ratio Real life friends,who ty to people like you dont have anyone to play with them. I even made them a corp XD |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:53:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:I still haven't clawed my way out of my noob hole.
Got more kills to make if I can have a K/D I can be proud of.
Munch
Keep at it Matari. Dust is not an easy world, and the ones that keep practicing are the pros of the future. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:57:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:And yes I see you soloing all the time in fw, you should join pie inc if your pro amarr, I'm gallente or duct tape I only play Amarr. And yes i have seen your squads aroudn playing for Duct tape rep..... No. Pie Inc might be Amarr,but they are EVE strong, im not sure about DUST.....Randoms need me more than any corp....So do my 0.3 K-D ratio Real life friends,who ty to people like you dont have anyone to play with them. I even made them a corp XD How is it my fault in any way that people may not have people to play with?
People close minded that only wants killers in their corps. Well im sorry i dont even know you and im judging ;im apologizing. But in true nature,. these friends of mine are great support,even surpass me sometimes in WP gained,but not all of them are very good at killing,and because people dont want to play with nobody BUT killers,they seem to lack a place in Dust.
Thats what i meant and again,i did not mean to disrespec.My bad. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 03:58:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I used to have an 8 kd as a heavy in chrom.
Now I'm a 3.82 as a scout.... My kd dropped so hard as a scout lol
Dont worry bro.Keep at it, scouts will get love... : / |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:18:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote: I allow logos in my corp to ride the pure support train until they get proto, then I push them to start getting better at killing and then finally try to teach the the art of gauging whether to whip out the rep tool or go for the gun, as a logi there is nothing more annoying than watching another logo trying to rep through impossible DPs. My fking tablet thinks it decides what I want to type, skynet here we come Lol. If it turns out they are not good at killing I expect them to not put themselves at risk because they are no good dead. I do push my guys to get better but not to the point where I'm being a dk.
Fair enough.There by, 1 K-D ratio serves your purpose for a LOGO. :3 |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:28:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote: I allow logos in my corp to ride the pure support train until they get proto, then I push them to start getting better at killing and then finally try to teach the the art of gauging whether to whip out the rep tool or go for the gun, as a logi there is nothing more annoying than watching another logo trying to rep through impossible DPs. My fking tablet thinks it decides what I want to type, skynet here we come Lol. If it turns out they are not good at killing I expect them to not put themselves at risk because they are no good dead. I do push my guys to get better but not to the point where I'm being a dk.
Fair enough.There by, 1 K-D ratio serves your purpose for a LOGO. :3 I expect improvement and anyone should strive for it I believe. If people strive to improve they help not only themselves but more importantly their team mates . A 1 kd to me means they need advice and some guidance.
Ok fair enough. But still usable? YES.
Thats my point. everybody improves.You are looking at a fail lord who used to have a 0.5 K-D ratio WHILE PLAYING WITH A CLAN... I improved,and im still improving, my K-D ratio improves 0.01 every 2 games....EVERYBODY improves....My point is FOR ME, a 1 k-d ratio is more than enough to join arms with me. I can take care of the rest,if they AT LEAST push or help in other ways. |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 04:38:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:
Yes totally, I was thinking in absolute terms a bit too much, was a fun discussion . See you on the fields :)
You too duct tape broski. Till later |
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:And yes I see you soloing all the time in fw, you should join pie inc if your pro amarr, I'm gallente or duct tape I only play Amarr. And yes i have seen your squads aroudn playing for Duct tape rep..... No. Pie Inc might be Amarr,but they are EVE strong, im not sure about DUST.....Randoms need me more than any corp....So do my 0.3 K-D ratio Real life friends,who ty to people like you dont have anyone to play with them. I even made them a corp XD Kicking ass and getting respect from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S a PC heavy corp when our squads are full of RPers over super tryhard players. As I have said with PIE inc before. WE are the best the Amarr have to offer..... admittedly Marauder, Hiemdallr, Aisha, and 21 all visit the Public Channels, but I don't feel i'm telling untruths when I say the PIE squads are some of the best Amarr FW has to offer... admittedly we often cannot run full squads of all corpies.
LAcking Full squads is lacking strenght in dust.
I've earned respect From anonymous not only by BEING one of them previously, but while facing them Regulary ALONE in FW.ANd winning. With good K-D ratio and 1st in my team , almost all the time.....(What anonymous needs to do is start playing amarr, WTH...)
Again, im sorry,didnt meant to sound disrespectful. Amarr allies are always good and i KNOW you have good players, i Know you are some kind of Old school eve Pro Amarr Corp. Thats what i meant before, with :''im not sure about DUST.....'' Im just not sure! XD , Ive never payed with you,nor against you so i wouldnt know. Sorry if it came out wrong.
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:40:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:3.91 :( Though I'm a lone wolf and part time shotgun pilot. J PS. Just to voice my opinion - people who say their kd/r is bad because of not being a squad player or not using the FoTM are making excuses. Don't want to sound like a douche but it's kind of truth. Don't hate me as my kd/r isn't that good either.
Ok, by this logic im one of the best players ever in Dust. I have a Alt with 45 K-D ratio. Yeah you heard right , 45.
(Its a cowardly sniper account XD) |
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:31:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote: Again: 1-All the true slayers in the game have a high KDR. But not all people with a high KDR are true slayers.
2-So the next person to post 'my KDR sucks but it's a stat that doesn't matter anyway...' You're wrong.
1-If there are ways to pad this stat to MAKE you look like a slayer, the importance of the stat is greatly reduced. ''not all people with a high KDR are true slayers'' <=== you said it yourself. Whats the point of having an 8 K-D ratio and getting dropped by a 1.5 K-D ratio player? And for FORUM and Clan recruitment purposes,K-D ratio should not be more than a Promise the player makes of whats hes capable of, which as we know ,promises are easily broken....
2-My K-D ratio sucks but K-D is NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT. WP gain and W-L ratio are more important in my opnion. I dont have a high K-D ratio yet im a killer. My Regular scores being arounds 20-8 / 30-9 / 25-7 etc....
K-D ratio is a nice stat to have. But dust has permitted it to be easy to manipulate for people who care for it, reducing GREATLY its value. Now, the only way i have to know if someone is good,is fighting them on the battlefield. I have 8+ K-D ratio players dying to my scrambler rifle 10+ times per game and 1.5 K-D ratio players dominating games as killers....
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Posted - 2013.09.29 01:43:00 -
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Bethhy wrote: Anyone PC'ing against decent competition will loose KDR, anyone pubbing mainly will gain drastic KDR.
Edit*When any slayer solo's instead of with "proto stomping buddies" they will get more kills because they don't have to share them....
Thats incorrect.
I play solo , pub and FW , get get fights vs full Squads 4 out of 5 matches and doesnt matter how good you are , 5 -6 dudes shooting at you at the same time WILL drop you .... |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 01:45:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:
A player with HIGH SKILL and LOW KDR doesn't exist. Over time, every player that's good at this game will have a high KDR. A player with LOW SKILL and LOW KDR is the majority. This is a player that, for whatever reason just isn't very good at this game, even after playing for a long time. Or a brand new player that doesn't know what he is doing.
So looking at players with low KDR, there is literally no case where you'd want them on your team. Statistically speaking, the odds of them making a solid contribution and extremely low. Sure, they may get lucky and have a really good round. But this would be highly unlikely.
So for everyone saying KDR doesn't matter, it does. If your KDR is high, you're either really good, or you're gaming the system to appear good. If your KDR is low, you are very inefficient at this game and are unlikely to make a solid contribution to the team.
There are no positives about having a low KDR! None!
No one said there is a possitive on having low K/D ratio except you. Im just saying is not a definitive stat.thats all... |
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