NOT avoiding, already addressed it. I'll copy/paste
"Hacking bonus is not logi enough because it has nothing to do with equipment; which is the whole point of logis (carry equipment to support, or to whatever). That's pretty simple. Hacking speed belongs on a fast stealthy suit that can better take advantage of it."

I addressed the issue, you asked why I'm reluctant to let the Minmatar logi keep the hacking bonus, and I told you already; it doesn't fit with the logi's role, which is equipment carrying; equipment can be used either for support, or for offensive reasons. Just because you don't like my answer doesn't mean I didn't address the issue.

Even when you're playing as a scout, running speed means nothing if you're shot in the back before your hack can be completed. Remember that the entire enemy team can see an objective is being hacked.

You have some strong biases I see. The logi already has a lot of great things going for it: it gets an extra module slot compared to its assault counterpart (2 module slots in the case of the Caldari logi) allowing for significantly greater HP potential then assaults, has better scanning abilities making it easy for it to spot other medium frames while those medium frames are unable to spot it, Great PG/CPU which is very useful for fitting pototype weapons, you can make lots of war points making you a precision strike generator for your squad, and the ability to carry multiple equipment is a HUGE advantage despite your attempts to make it look like some cursed crappy job like being a "waterboy". You may not want to play support, but with a logi suit you don't really have to; you can play solo and set remote explosives to get a bunch of kills, know the enemy's location with active scanner, and resupply your REs with a nanohive to make more kaboom.

Its hard to take you seriously when you pretend like logis are some weak underpowered suit that need a buff. Saying the logi has "no real usefulness aside from equipment deployment" completely ignores how useful equipment can be to a battle, for example: so many battles have been decided by who has the most drop uplinks. Saying the logi "with no real usefulness aside from equipment deployment" is like saying "assaults have no real usefulness aside from running around and killing things", or that "scouts no real usefulness aside from being fast and stealthy", or "heavies have no real usefulness aside from having lots of HP and getting heavy weapons"; that's the entire point of these suits. Maybe you chose the wrong specialization if you don't want to be defined by carrying equipment.

I also don't see how hacking an objective is support; its the main action which the battle is centered around, a support action is on that helps fulfill that main goal, not an act that itself fulfills the main goal. You can't just lump everything that doesn't involve shooting someone as "support".

Oh I see, so you don't like the idea so you're assuming its part of some personal jealous vendetta? Seriously? LOL. I am a logi, and if I wanted a hacking bonus that bad, then I would have just speced into the Minnmatar one, or proposed that every logi has it. That's called a ad hominem, a its logical fallacy (means you're always wrong if you do it), attacking the person instead of the argument; even if what you said is true, it doesn't invalidate my point.
Once again, stop acting like the logi is some weak crappy suit with no advantages, you have more module slot so use it. The Min logi has 1 more low slot than the assault, allowing you to fit a shield regulator, or an armor plate, or something else. I would recommend an armor plate since it would easily surpass the HP of an assault. If hacking isn't fast enough for you, use a codebreaker.
Also, every thoght not every damn equipment you deploy needs to be proto? Also you're just flat out lying, fitting all equipmnt slots with proto equipment is only like 80K max, and the cost of the suit is reduces in other places because the PG/CPU costs mean you have cut PG/CPU in other places.
CCP gives out respecs when there are major skill changes, I will bet you all my ISK that you will get a respec if all this happens.




/me sighs

Gaining control of the null cannon IS the objective in Skirmish and Domination, so hacking the null cannons is an attempt at fulfilling the main objective, not just supporting. All other actions are secondary, thus support.
Just like clone depletion IS the objective in Ambush, so killing is an attempt to fulfill the main objective, and not just support. All other actions (including hacking) is secondary in Ambush, and thus support.

I don't see how it would be too much for scouts, fits them perfectly since they have the ability to get to objectives faster and stealthier than other suits.

"I still think you are pushing for this because you don't have a hacking bonus on your suit and are upset about it" that is what you said to me, it doesn't seem like a question at all, this is an accusation. You are claiming my opinions are just a product of jealousy. Explain to me on what planet stating that you believe I'm pushing for this because I'm upset about it a question.

I have about a dozen alts to experiment and try different suits and weapons, I may not have played on literally every suit, but I do have a good idea of the purpose of each suit. The bonus should reflect the purpose. It doesn't take being an expert at every single racial specialization to know that a logi is about carrying equipment. You can use that equipment however you want, even selfishly, you can choose not to fit more than one equipment and use your suit to make badass slayer fit, and THAT'S FINE, but the role bonus should be based on equipment.

I was in the closed beta, but I still think it belongs on a scout. Scouts are much weaker then thy are now because of hit detection fixes, and the prevalence of active scanners (high tier ones will find scouts). Also the WP for counterhacking that came in 1.5 will incentivize the team who get their stuff hack to stop it instead of just letting it complete.