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Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.25 21:04:00 -
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TL:DR
- In order to shut both the Fanbois and Trolls up CCP needs to PC battle against PS2 on the same console in order to decide the true winner -
DUST is the only F2P FPS MMO on PS3.
This is the #1 reason why CCP is doing so well with DUST on the PS3, because they have no real true competition on the PS3 and CCP knows this. You know kinda how they had no real competition when they released EVE.
If and when DUST ever moves over to the PS4 I am afraid that DUST will not fare so well.
If CCP was smart they would just stay on the PS3 until it fades away and then just put DUST to rest along with the PS3.
For example, if PS2 was released right now onto the PS3, (mind you I know it never will be on the PS3) DUST would be in real trouble. I am not saying that everyone would leave and go play PS2 for good but a huge number of persons would be leaving this playerbase and playing PS2. In fact I would not doubt that most everyone that plays DUST would also play PS2 at some point.
Yes some will come back to DUST and some will have the opinion that PS2 is garbage. Some will play both. Chances are A larger portion would stay with PS2 and never come back. Now anyone can disagree with this statement, however you would be a fool to think that DUST would not lose at the very least about half of it playerbase right now.
Bad?
No, this would be great! "Competition breeds greatness!"
We the customers would benefit IMO, it might just encourage CCP to bring this game to its full potential.
Again DUST is the only F2P FPS MMO on PS3 so all these silly little threads about DUST is dead and Player base server #'s will never be anything more than WALL -O- TEXT's.
Fanbois vs Trolls
CCP and CCP's fanbois will never be able to claim how great a game this is nor will the naysayers be able to discredit this game by calling it a Lobby FPS until CCP HTFU and goes up against some real competition.
Come on CCP HTFU and prove to us how great a Dev Company you are.
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Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:20:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:
2. They likely will continue to have no competition of a game quite exactly like it, PS3 or PS4. CCP likes long term gams, and has stated they will be moving to PS4 when PS3 is totally obsolete (but probably not much sooner).
So are you saying when DUST moves to PS4 that PS2 will be dead and DUST will not have any competition from it?
Or that when DUST moves to the PS4 that it will be the first game of its kind on the PS4?
Or do you mean that PS2 and DUST are nothing alike.
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Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.25 23:02:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Zzzzz.
Way to contribute to society kid, your parents must be so proud. |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.25 23:23:00 -
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BF4 can not be considered DUST's competition.
It is not a F2P FPS MMO.
Will players leave this game for it yeah sure but not because BF4 is a better F2P FPS MMO.
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Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.25 23:25:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:First off all, PS2 players would like come over to dust as well. We are still in the early stages of the 10yr roadmap. While competition can be good, this early in development it isn't!
If EVE had competition in its infant years it wouldn't end up such the unique game it currently is! Instead making dust general release (non-beta) has allowed us to reap the benefits of competition without the negatives, and the competition, obviously, we shouldn't attempt to directly compete with PS2 or the like until we are playing kn OUR terms not b theirs!
PS2 is still in development as well so why would competition be bad?
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Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.25 23:51:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:What makes you think that PS2 is better than Dust 514? Maybe it would hurt PS2 more to be on the same console like Dust 514. Planetside 2 has about double the players Dust 514 has. But they also had more hype. And still: They're also losing players. At the moment they have 9 servers and I think they will close some of them down very soon. Doesn't look too promising.
Also Planetside 2 isn't really a game for everyone. It has problems like Dust has. Different problems though.
First of all: Population. I hear it's very one-sided. Second: No goal. You fight so you can fight. You can never win. I hear there are server resets every now and then. But you can never finish a game. It's all about having a big fight and that's it.
In Dust on the other hand: When we have a big fight (Arzad, Molden Heath Revolution) you can be sure as hell people write about it. When we get new content, it can influence the established Universe of another MMO. Of course: The game isn't there yet. but you know: At some point it will be.
I don't think PS2 is any better or worse than DUST however PS2 is the closest game out right now that would be true competition for DUST.
TBH long term goals I feel as though DUST has a better dream/game plan than PS2 but head to head right now they both are very similar games.
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Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.26 00:56:00 -
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Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:Planetside will steal a huge chunk of players from dust? I'm not too sure about that. I feel like Dust is a very different beast compared to other first person shooters. In the same way that a die hard halo fan isn't going to be impressed with uncharted multiplayer and vice-versa. Dust is a fps, but it plays very differently then other fps. The other day I played Halo 4 with some friends on multiplayer. It was boring. Ok, so I kill you. Is that it? I can't hack anything? I can't squad up to take out a tank? Everyone runs around pretty much solo and there's not much team planning. Dust just offers a completely different experience than most shooting games out there.
so yeah, dust will be able to succeed even with competition. Also, (and this has nothing to do with anything) I love how female spartans look like in reach but *eeeew* they went all anorexic for Halo 4. not even proana people can like a halo 4 female spartan.
Yes but in the console world the games that you find boring are King no matter if we like them or not they draw numbers and make money.
I do not and can not compare DUST to any of those giants, like I have said the only game out right now that even comes close to DUST is PS2.
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Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.26 01:17:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote: I really wish this game had some competition, cause I loved EVE Online, but this POS of a game is just one big remorseful product.
I feel that if CCP had some competition that it might light a fire under their asses to give us the end game we all crave so much. As it is now CCP knows we do not have anything else to go to that is anything like DUST. They know that they can take as long as they want to and we will still just sit here and wait for them because we have know where else to go.
Competition can also be a great motivator and right now I feel that CCP needs some motivation. |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.26 11:43:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:CCP is doing so well with DUST nonstop population loss is doing well?
it is doing well for now. It is good numbers for what the game is right now, a FPS.
But if CCP wants to give us the end game they talk about all the time we are going to need much greater numbers than what we currently have. |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:07:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:CCP is doing so well with DUST nonstop population loss is doing well? it is doing well for now. It is good numbers for what the game is right now, a FPS. But if CCP wants to give us the end game they talk about all the time we are going to need much greater numbers than what we currently have. actually alot of things are scaring new players away from dust and this reputation will spread around very fast. a new player now has to decide: -do I skill into what is availabe despite maybe wanted something else that is announced and will come in the next 10 months. -or do I save SP and wait for the next 10 months and endure horrible grind against high SP enemies in both cases the player will feel bad and most likely leave. lack of content and forced "choices" due to it, balance problems and bugs are a plague for this game, you can see it in the declining population.
I wonder how many true new players DUST gets or will get?
By true I mean no alts. Game has been out for a while now.
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Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:33:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:Way to contribute to society kid, your parents must be so proud. Well junior, when this thread has something useful in it I'll find a way to contribute to it.
I doubt you can muster the amount of brain cells it takes to contribute anything to this society so TBH don't even bother trying. Just keep doing what you do best champ! |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.26 16:51:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:I doubt you can muster the amount of brain cells it takes to contribute anything to this society so TBH don't even bother trying. Just keep doing what you do best champ! LOL... speak for yourself.
Thank you for proving my point, now run along and let the grown up talk. |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.26 17:01:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:I bet DUST is already developed with Unreal Engine 4. You can judge it by upgraded graphics and changed game mechanics since Uprising. UE4 has backward compatibility to port for PS3. Thought you can't run UE4 editor directly on PS3.
This would explain so many unnoticed bugs cropping out after each monthly patch. Maybe all QA is done on PS4 and not on PS3 and they have to run after that bugs blindfolded... Tweak something on PS4, build to PS3 and then see if it fixed anything...
My wild guess ofc... Feel free to ignore it...
I feel as though CCP has not even started working on a PS4 version yet.
They are going to try and handle DUST in the same manor they handled EVE.
CCP launched EVE in 2003 right. Its Operating system was Windows XP at the time, on DirectX 7. CCP then migrated to DirectX 9 with a live game in operation and ran a dual rendering across DirectX 7 and DirectX 9 for a bunch of years and also did the same thing when they launched the Mac version.
So with Dust they are going to perfect the PS3 version then start to develop a PlayStation 4 version. They will then try and link both the PS3 version and PS4 some how and then tie both of them to Tranquility. All the while they will be supporting both the PS3 and PS4 versions until PS3 fades away and then they will move everything over to PS4 only, until PS5.
But first they need to perfect PS3 build.
But hey they have no real competition so they can take all the time in the world to accomplish this, right? |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.26 17:06:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:I doubt you can muster the amount of brain cells it takes to contribute anything to this society so TBH don't even bother trying. Just keep doing what you do best champ! LOL... speak for yourself. Thank you for proving my point, now run along and let the grown up talk. You should be carefully assuming the age of folks around here...
Just because you physically may be older does not always mean that your mind kept up with you aging body. |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.26 18:38:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:People actually think PS2 is better? It only has more players because it's on PC.
My point exactly.
We can not prove either one is better than the other until they both are on the PS4.
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Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:29:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Be warned! OP is a nut job.
And your..................well your stalking a nut job which makes you.................well just pathetic really. |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:39:00 -
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GVGMODE wrote:What is this MMO the OP speaks off, I have yet tosee that happen. To be fare PS2 is not much of a MMO yet either. |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:56:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:Dust has lots of competition. EVE is the one that doesn't have much competition, though that will change when Star Citizen is released. From the looks of early footage and the hanger walkabout I would say its a potential EVE killer. Lots of competition?
What other F2P FPS MMO's are out on the PS3 right now? |
Buttercup Chipmint
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:26:00 -
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velos ALKARI wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:BARDAS wrote:Dust has lots of competition. EVE is the one that doesn't have much competition, though that will change when Star Citizen is released. From the looks of early footage and the hanger walkabout I would say its a potential EVE killer. Lots of competition? What other F2P FPS MMO's are out on the PS3 right now? Not f2p...but id say bf3 is a huge obstacle to dust in their similarities and differences. Dust has very good emphasis on personalised gameplay and loadouts whereas battlefield leads when it comes to the balance between all categories of offensive abilities,choppers tanks jets etc.they balance well But again..u gotta buy bf
BF is also missing MMO.
Quote:N1ck Comeau wrote: with this logic i guess games like battlefield should give up because of COD.
If anything this guy just proved my point.
EA Games executive VP Patrick Soderlund said this,
Quote:GÇ£Maybe they (Activision) werenGÇÖt thinking about us much when we made BF3, but I can tell you, they are thinking about us now. We made a dent in the FPS market and we took share from them. And I am not going to give up until IGÇÖm No.1GǦ
So no BF should not give up and in fact they are doing everything they can to beat COD, in turn this benefits us. |
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