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Jadek Menaheim wrote:

(Recompiling ideas from a topic found here)

I am tremendously happy to see the new changes coming to corporation roles with 1.5. It is a great step in adding complexity and quality of life adjustments to a great game. What if we could take the idea forward with an interaction skill called "Consultation?"

Consultation would be a skill attribute found within the Corporations skill tree which allows you to share your corporation skills completely, even the current (and only) corp building skill, with another corp while remaining in your own. As a 4x skill, each additional level will allow you to share your abilities with another corporation of your choosing, up to a maximum of 5 corporations. This ability to share skills with multiple corporations will allow for a self-marketable player asset that can assist alliances and 'rivals' alike for a chosen retainer fee (or work pro bono). The trick is this information on corporate interaction is not visible unless obtained via word of mouth, or simply a corp director taking a screen cap of their own corporate dossier and sending it off through various channels. Finding out one of your high executives is consulting with the enemy could make for some very juicy metagaming.

The real depth, and necessity of consultation interaction would be the addition of further corporate skills which affect the attributes of all members within the corporation. Attributes can be lost or significantly lowered within a corporation if the consultant severs connection with the corporation. To illustrate, if a tier 3 level 5 weapons specialist leaves a service agreement with a corporation, those attributes will revert to the next highest attribute of either another consultant or corporation member who holds a skill ability in that category. Currently, I want to simply focus on the (proposed) Research and Development Specialist Attributes within the corporation skill tree path.

The path begins with R&D Specialist Director, and moves onto each path. Skill costs within each path are as follows below.

Tier 1 (2x Skill) 621,840 sp at Lv 5
Tier 2 (6x) 1,865,520 sp at Lvl 5
Tier 3 (12x) 3,731,040 sp at Lvl 5

/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
Total investment 6,218,400 sp
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /

Again to reiterate, these attributes are applied across the board to all members of a corporation who either a.) have the services of a consultant providing access to skills, or b.) an in-corp member, most likely on the director board, providing these skills.

-----|---------->Weapons Specialist
(Tier 1) Weapon Component Salvage Support (1% higher chance of receiving officer weapon per level)
(Tier 2 Unlocked lvl 5 ^) Weapon Munitions Management (2% larger ammo pool reverse for all weapons in corp)
(Tier 3 Unlocked lvl 5 ^) Weapon Service Supplier (1% discount to all weapons purchased from NPE vendors)

-----|---------->Dropsuit Protocol Design
(Tier 1) Sensor Development (3% bonus to dropsuit scanning radius of all corp members per level)
(Tier 2) Biotic Module Development (1% bonus to all biotic module efficacy of all corp members per level)
(Tier 3) Systems Protocols Design (1% bonus to dropsuit cpu and pg of all corp members per level)
*I like the risk associated with last second suit invalidation on this last tier. It increases the importance and risk of leaning on such a corp member in a PC environment.

-----|---------->Medical Response Coordinator
(Tier 1) Nanite Injector Adaptation (2% bonus to efficacy Nanite Injector revives)
(Tier 2) Repair Tool Enhancement (3% bonus to repair tool efficacy on target)
(Tier 3) Medical Respondent Survivability (1% bonus to self repair with repair tool active on target)

-----|---------->Vehicle Specialist
(Tier 1) Vehicle Engineering (2% bonus to torque and speed output per level)
(Tier 2) Vehicle Cooldown Management (3% bonus to vehicle module cooldown per level)
(Tier 3) Vehicle Systems Design (2% bonus to vehicle cpu and pg of all corp member vehicles per level)

Again these skills can be lost or significantly diminished if the corp member or consultant providing these skills leaves your service. Sensible corporate CEOs would be wise to invest in the vehicle and dropsuit R&D specialist roles for a greater safety net. Only auditors, directors, and CEOs of a corporation have veiwing access to see who is a consultant working with their corporation.

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As these skills are more long-term passively based attributes, a recurring payment ability would work smashingly well with helping CEO's and Directors manage their retainer agreements with various consultants. This would simply work in the manner that you click on a player and designate to "pay x every x number of days."


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Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 0	Posted - 2013.10.09 23:11:00 - [1] - Quote +1 I'd certainly like to see something like this.
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 0	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:32:00 - [2] - Quote I really like the idea of being able to play a type of market PVP by studying the player-base and competing for positions with niche skills. I'm just curious if the server could handle this type of shared skill interaction. It's adding in a lot of new variables to track.
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 0	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:27:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah, changes to consultant-corp relationship attributes should change at downtime. I do think that CEO's and directors should be notified immediately of any changes to consultancy status so they have time to prepare. The amount of time might get sketchy though if changes are revolving around the downtime. To illustrate, Corp A and Corp B are set to take part in a PC battle one day from now. Corp B pays Corp A's consultant to ditch ship for Corp B, 15 minutes before the downtime, hindering Corp A's ability to hire a new consultant before the down time. This new change in consultancy gives Corp B and edge over Corp A in the following day PC battle. Does that scenario sound acceptable. I believe so.
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 0	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:30:00 - [4] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: (Recompiling ideas from a topic found here) I am tremendously happy to see the new changes coming to corporation roles with 1.5. It is a great step in adding complexity and quality of life adjustments to a great game. What if we could take the idea forward with an interaction skill called "Consultation?" Consultation would be a skill attribute found within the Corporations skill tree which allows you to share your corporation skills completely, even the current (and only) corp building skill, with another corp while remaining in your own. As a 4x skill, each additional level will allow you to share your abilities with another corporation of your choosing, up to a maximum of 5 corporations. This ability to share skills with multiple corporations will allow for a self-marketable player asset that can assist alliances and 'rivals' alike for a chosen retainer fee (or work pro bono). The trick is this information on corporate interaction is not visible unless obtained via word of mouth, or simply a corp director taking a screen cap of their own corporate dossier and sending it off through various channels. Finding out one of your high executives is consulting with the enemy could make for some very juicy metagaming. The real depth, and necessity of consultation interaction would be the addition of further corporate skills which affect the attributes of all members within the corporation. Attributes can be lost or significantly lowered within a corporation if the consultant severs connection with the corporation. To illustrate, if a tier 3 level 5 weapons specialist leaves a service agreement with a corporation, those attributes will revert to the next highest attribute of either another consultant or corporation member who holds a skill ability in that category. Currently, I want to simply focus on the (proposed) Research and Development Specialist Attributes within the corporation skill tree path. The path begins with R&D Specialist Director, and moves onto each path. Skill costs within each path are as follows below. Tier 1 (2x Skill) 621,840 sp at Lv 5 Tier 2 (6x) 1,865,520 sp at Lvl 5 Tier 3 (12x) 3,731,040 sp at Lvl 5 / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / Total investment 6,218,400 sp / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / Again to reiterate, these attributes are applied across the board to all members of a corporation who either a.) have the services of a consultant providing access to skills, or b.) an in-corp member, most likely on the director board, providing these skills. -----\|---------->Weapons Specialist (Tier 1) Weapon Component Salvage Support (1% higher chance of receiving officer weapon per level) (Tier 2 Unlocked lvl 5 ^) Weapon Munitions Management (2% larger ammo pool reverse for all weapons in corp) (Tier 3 Unlocked lvl 5 ^) Weapon Service Supplier (1% discount to all weapons purchased from NPE vendors) -----\|---------->Dropsuit Protocol Design (Tier 1) Sensor Development (3% bonus to dropsuit scanning radius of all corp members per level) (Tier 2) Biotic Module Development (1% bonus to all biotic module efficacy of all corp members per level) (Tier 3) Systems Protocols Design (1% bonus to dropsuit cpu and pg of all corp members per level) *I like the risk associated with last second suit invalidation on this last tier. It increases the importance and risk of leaning on such a corp member in a PC environment. -----\|---------->Medical Response Coordinator (Tier 1) Nanite Injector Adaptation (2% bonus to efficacy Nanite Injector revives) (Tier 2) Repair Tool Enhancement (3% bonus to repair tool efficacy on target) (Tier 3) Medical Respondent Survivability (1% bonus to self repair with repair tool active on target) -----\|---------->Vehicle Specialist (Tier 1) Vehicle Engineering (2% bonus to torque and speed output per level) (Tier 2) Vehicle Cooldown Management (3% bonus to vehicle module cooldown per level) (Tier 3) Vehicle Systems Design (2% bonus to vehicle cpu and pg of all corp member vehicles per level) Again these skills can be lost or significantly diminished if the corp member or consultant providing these skills leaves your service. Sensible corporate CEOs would be wise to invest in the vehicle and dropsuit R&D specialist roles for a greater safety net. Only auditors, directors, and CEOs of a corporation have veiwing access to see who is a consultant working with their corporation. Edit / / / / / / / / / / / / / / As these skills are more long-term passively based attributes, a recurring payment ability would work smashingly well with helping CEO's and Directors manage their retainer agreements with various consultants. This would simply work in the manner that you click on a player and designate to "pay x every x number of days." I'm sorry man this topic hasn't been getting much traction. It's basically you just keeping it alive. It seems like a really cool idea.
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 1	Posted - 2013.10.15 00:52:00 - [5] - Quote Thanks Jester. Do you think this downtime operation should extend to mercs as well? Say if somebody leaves their corp and joins my corp, the Xer Cloud Consortium (XerCC), they retain any merc specific attributes related to their previous corporation until downtime. After that downtime they take on the attributes of the new corp. You could call this a re-initiation window. Now what would be interesting to discuss are potential attributes which a corp defector might be able to take advantage of during that initiation window.
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 1	Posted - 2013.10.15 01:10:00 - [6] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Jadu, I would be fine with extending the merc initiation window by 3 to 5 days, while keeping the corporate window set to a day. I think this would discourage players from using dummy corporation accounts to switch between perks too frequently. Additionally. the added time of perk retention during that re-initiation window would allow for example defecting mercs to remain useful for longer in their new subversive partnership. You sparked something Jadek. Would a player be able to rejoin their old corporation within that re-initiation window and not be stuck with another wait timer? Similar to canceling a biomass of your character, you can deactivate it once started without penalty and go straight back to playing as that character.
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 1	Posted - 2013.10.15 01:27:00 - [7] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Oh..oh...oh. I think I see what you're getting at. A player could remain a free agent with all their perks indefinitely by continually rejoining and cancelling their status with a corporation as long as they don't go over the initiation timer. Didn't think about that one. That might get a little funky. If someone is willing to go to that extent, I say more power to them. The initiation timer could always work in a different way. Similar to the biomass system, you couldn't leave the corporation until the timer ran down. It's kind of like a two week notice, that either you, a personnel recruiter, a director, or CEO can initiate. However, in this case I would only clock the timer at 48 hours, max. Once the 48 hours were up, you would no longer have the attributes of the corporation and no longer be with the corporation. The only problem I have with this system is it strikes me as too restrictive. What do you guys think?