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Ku Shala
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:55:00 -
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So why does a prototype shield extender do less for a shield tanker than a militia armour plate? does anyone even use STD or ADV extenders they seem pretty pointless +22 really ? |
Vesago Ghostcore
Rejected Clones
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:00:00 -
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Shields naturally regenerate... quickly. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:35:00 -
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The armour plate doesn't regenerate naturally, at all, and carries a speed penalty.
Meanwhile, shields have no penalty and regenerate extremely quickly. |
Ku Shala
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:44:00 -
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well thats a half truth some armour plates do regenerate, shields also only have one type and increase your scan profile. Make more shield types one with a reduction to sheild repair rate with more +hp |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:49:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:well thats a half truth some armour plates do regenerate, shields also only have one type and increase your scan profile. Make more shield types one with a reduction to sheild repair rate with more +hp
The armour plates which regenerate have higher fitting requirements than shield extenders, still carry a speed penalty, and give less HP than an equivalent shield extender.
I'm not sure what you mean by shields only having one type, unless you mean that there aren't plates/ferroscales/reactives, but I can assure you that it's more of a blessing than a curse.
Shields do not increase your scan profile.
Buffing shields... You realise that shields were by far the dominant FotM just a couple of weeks ago?
For more information on armour vs shields and why armour is where it is now, I suggest reading this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752&find=unread |
Ku Shala
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:52:00 -
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here is a better perspective of my problem with shield extenders 3 x STD sheild extenders = 1X complex sheild extender
2X STD armour plates = >1complex armour plates or 85x2 =170 and 1 complex is 135 |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:53:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:here is a better perspective of my problem with shield extenders 3 x STD sheild extenders = 1X complex sheild extender
2X STD armour plates = >1complex armour plates or 85x2 =170 and 1 complex is 135
Yes, the scaling is different.
You can see that as both good and bad. It's good in that the lower tiered gear can be effective, and it's bad in that it suffers at higher tiers. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
990
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Posted - 2013.09.24 20:24:00 -
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While I felt Armor didn't need the HP buff, it's nice.
Don't touch shields. I can get similar HPwith my STD CalSalt suit as my Gal MED Frame.
Unneeded change. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.09.25 00:07:00 -
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More shield types!
One with built in regulator,
btw you can run a full set of reactive plates,their not that hard to equip and no speed penalty
Especially on a logy suit |
Ku Shala
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
550
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:01:00 -
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I feel the hp on the feroscales and shield extenders should be more similar since they are practically the same thing although slightly dated Arkena Wyrnspire's post was very infomative |
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Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:04:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:here is a better perspective of my problem with shield extenders 3 x STD sheild extenders = 1X complex sheild extender
2X STD armour plates = >1complex armour plates or 85x2 =170 and 1 complex is 135
It's always been that way, running complex plates is suicide. |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:05:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:More shield types!
One with built in regulator,
btw you can run a full set of reactive plates,their not that hard to equip and no speed penalty
Especially on a logy suit
Reactives do have a penalty. And why would you run them on a logi suit. My Proto Gallente Logi already has 5 HP/S. I'd rather fit 5 Enchanced plates than 5 reactives. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:46:00 -
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The problem isn't that shields are too weak. The problem is that the applied DPS of every weapon doubled or tripled when 1.4 was released, making hp nearly meaningless. When you can get hit with 1000 damage in less than two seconds of course the shield extenders seem pointless. This makes armor the only thing that can come close to making a difference, and then only barely. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
3458
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Posted - 2013.09.25 16:27:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:I feel the hp on the feroscales and shield extenders should be more similar since they are practically the same thing although slightly dated Arkena Wyrnspire's post was very infomative
The HP on the ferroscales and shield extenders should be different. Why?
Because the shield extenders regenerate inherently. The armour plates do not. To get an armour plate to regenerate, you need to sacrifice another tank slot which you could have used for plates, thus reducing your overall HP compared to shields, especially if you fit enough to get a regen good enough to compete with shields. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.09.25 17:24:00 -
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Spycrab Potato wrote:deepfried salad gilliam wrote:More shield types!
One with built in regulator,
btw you can run a full set of reactive plates,their not that hard to equip and no speed penalty
Especially on a logy suit Reactives do have a penalty. And why would you run them on a logi suit. My Proto Gallente Logi already has 5 HP/S. I'd rather fit 5 Enchanced plates than 5 reactives.
I litteralty double checked before I posted 0.0% movement penalty
And because then you'd have more hp and better regen than a shield tanker |
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