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DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:11:00 - [1] - Quote Many people seem to think there is going to fighter dog fighting part of DUST... Jet's might become something a couple years from now. But as far as CCP development plan's as a company it probably won't be here immediately on DUST and the concept reworked. E-VR EVE - valkyrie(virtual reality) is coming using the Occulus Rift. And if you aren't familiar with this device its worth checking out and the game... Epic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVWZoqhGbow Demo of the Occulus rift with EVE Valkyrie.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 475	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:17:00 - [2] - Quote i'm hyped for Valkyrie. fighters are coming to dust, but a ton of stuff has to come first.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1378	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:19:00 - [3] - Quote As this project is being done in Iceland I have a lot more faith in it :-) can't wait...though going to be another expensive buy lol
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6454	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:20:00 - [4] - Quote low genius wrote: i'm hyped for Valkyrie. fighters are coming to dust, but a ton of stuff has to come first. I'm inclined to believe fighters WON'T come to DUST, and will strictly be a Valkyrie thing, judging by how vehicles have gone the past couple years. I can see them interacting with DUST and EVE, but requiring you to pick up Valkyrie if you'd like to fly them (which I imagine could also be on consoles, not just Occulus Rift. I wouldn't be the tiniest bit surprised, considering how often reality differs from CCPs vision.
Aleksander Black Immortal Retribution 120	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:32:00 - [5] - Quote Valkyrie will be set in space with fighters being deployed from Carriers and all of these are already assets in EVE: Amarr Carrier, Amarr Fighter. DUST jet fighters will be another thing entirely different, designed for planetary combat and deployed by RDVs as any other vehicle. I don't see a connection right now between the two.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2013.09.24 15:44:00 - [6] - Quote Occulus rift is Hilarious... worth buying just to prank your family here is some hilarious Occulus rift bloopers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INDKNA7kXoo
Bethhy Ancient Exiles 114	Posted - 2013.09.24 16:04:00 - [7] - Quote With fighters being on Carriers and Mothership's and costing around 20m each, I don't know how the EVE player is gonna foot the bill for someones careless piloting... Which leads me to believe they will make them more accessible throughout the galaxy.. possibly bringing them into DUST as an already working mechanic.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:47:00 - [8] - Quote Aleksander Black wrote: Valkyrie will be set in space with fighters being deployed from Carriers and all of these are already assets in EVE: Amarr Carrier, Amarr Fighter. DUST jet fighters will be another thing entirely different, designed for planetary combat and deployed by RDVs as any other vehicle. I don't see a connection right now between the two. That's just it, all the concept art done for DUST fighters have major resemblances to the actual fighters and bombers in EVE... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aLLZYfOndPQ/UXAmIE8THEI/AAAAAAAACC0/DG1KLkGCwug/s1600/aircombat.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Dz86dwFQ_bc/UXAubVSI3cI/AAAAAAAACDE/P8660yUC2mU/s400/galente_fighter.jpg
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 689	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:00:00 - [9] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: low genius wrote: i'm hyped for Valkyrie. fighters are coming to dust, but a ton of stuff has to come first. I'm inclined to believe fighters WON'T come to DUST, and will strictly be a Valkyrie thing, judging by how vehicles have gone the past couple years. I can see them interacting with DUST and EVE, but requiring you to pick up Valkyrie if you'd like to fly them (which I imagine could also be on consoles, not just Occulus Rift. I wouldn't be the tiniest bit surprised, considering how often reality differs from CCPs vision. VR will not interact with dust, guarantee it. I believe VR will give you control of the drone ships laumched in eve! Allowing you to partake in fleet battle in an entirely new way!
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:07:00 - [10] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: As this project is being done in Iceland I have a lot more faith in it :-) can't wait...though going to be another expensive buy lol Isn't eve-Valkyrie being done in the UK? The tech demo was produced in Iceland. when they picked it up as an actual game I read they shipped the dudes out to Newcastle to join the dev crew there.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8835	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:08:00 - [11] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: As this project is being done in Iceland I have a lot more faith in it :-) can't wait...though going to be another expensive buy lol Wrong its being headed up by CCP Newcastle
R F Gyro Clones 4u 537	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:31:00 - [12] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: VR will not interact with dust, guarantee it. I believe VR will give you control of the drone ships laumched in eve! Allowing you to partake in fleet battle in an entirely new way! I'd actually be quite surprised if EVR combat took place "on grid" with Eve battles. I suspect that the link would be via backstory; the EVR fighters (not drones) would be the same as fighters launched from Carriers in Eve, but would not be the fighters launched from those Eve player-piloted carriers. You would probably launch from NPC-controlled carriers.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:34:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: As this project is being done in Iceland I have a lot more faith in it :-) can't wait...though going to be another expensive buy lol Wrong its being headed up by CCP Newcastle Wrong it was a bunch of people chilling at lunch in Iceland had a passion for the Occulus rift and EVE.. eventually now with it's reception from fanfest. For you IWS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9UrdHNuZ2g
R F Gyro Clones 4u 540	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:38:00 - [14] - Quote DootDoot wrote: Wrong it was a bunch of people chilling at lunch in Iceland had a passion for the Occulus rift and EVE.. eventually now with it's reception from fanfest. I'll pass on the "wrong" meme, and just quote CCP... Quote: EVE: Valkyrie, a new virtual-reality spaceship dogfighting game in development at the companyGÇÖs Newcastle, UK studio. http://www.ccpgames.com/en/home
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis 459	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:42:00 - [15] - Quote Didnt they say that Valkyrie will have much less depth and a looser connection to EVE than DUST has (lol)? I imagine the speculation that it will be based in EVE but have almost no impact on the EVE players is correct.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 696	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:43:00 - [16] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: VR will not interact with dust, guarantee it. I believe VR will give you control of the drone ships laumched in eve! Allowing you to partake in fleet battle in an entirely new way! I'd actually be quite surprised if EVR combat took place "on grid" with Eve battles. I suspect that the link would be via backstory; the EVR fighters (not drones) would be the same as fighters launched from Carriers in Eve, but would not be the fighters launched from those Eve player-piloted carriers. You would probably launch from NPC-controlled carriers. Prehaps aye, its just how I would link the 2, but you never know till it happens! I just guarantee it won't interact with dust!
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:51:00 - [17] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: R F Gyro wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: VR will not interact with dust, guarantee it. I believe VR will give you control of the drone ships laumched in eve! Allowing you to partake in fleet battle in an entirely new way! I'd actually be quite surprised if EVR combat took place "on grid" with Eve battles. I suspect that the link would be via backstory; the EVR fighters (not drones) would be the same as fighters launched from Carriers in Eve, but would not be the fighters launched from those Eve player-piloted carriers. You would probably launch from NPC-controlled carriers. Prehaps aye, its just how I would link the 2, but you never know till it happens! I just guarantee it won't interact with dust! I really hope not... With an immersive world combining all three games interacting in different way's... players would have a hard time leaving the New Eden galaxy... or looking for other games... or leaving their house
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1383	Posted - 2013.09.24 22:06:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: As this project is being done in Iceland I have a lot more faith in it :-) can't wait...though going to be another expensive buy lol Wrong its being headed up by CCP Newcastle whoa whoa wait, there is a ccp office in my country.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2268	Posted - 2013.09.24 22:07:00 - [19] - Quote DootDoot wrote: Many people seem to think there is going to be fighter's and a dog fighting part of DUST... Jet's might become something a couple years from now. But as far as CCP development plan's as a company it probably won't be here immediately on DUST and the concept reworked. E-VR EVE - valkyrie(virtual reality) is coming using the Occulus Rift. And if you aren't familiar with this device its worth checking out and the game... Epic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVWZoqhGbow Demo of the Occulus rift with EVE Valkyrie. Except Valkyrie will be a stand along game, there is no reason to introduce pilots as deployable drone type units, nor do the ships in Valkyrie make a difference Vs EVE frigates since they are so much smaller.
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1022	Posted - 2013.09.24 22:11:00 - [20] - Quote I believe they said that Valkyrie was going to be SINGLE PLAYER ONLY. So that means it could be made far more quickly and without respect to EVE nor DUST's playstyles. Imagine being a Fighter in EVE Online. It would SUCK. Noww a Fighter in the EVE universe, unrelated to EVE Online. AWESOME.

Skihids Bullet Cluster 2165	Posted - 2013.09.24 22:13:00 - [21] - Quote I'm backing "Star Citizen" for the opportunity to VR pilot spaceships. If EVR gets released I'll give that a try too. I want the first person view in my games.
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 475	Posted - 2013.09.24 22:26:00 - [22] - Quote I never understood why CCP decided to take on more projects than it could handle. Off the top of my head, CCP has had their hands in WoD, Valkyrie, Dust 514, and EVE Online; God forbid all of this funding came from EVE Online, and not used for EVE Online or Dust 514, but rather some little side project with employees that we could already use in a failing game such as Dust 514 (the minute CCP pushed back content in 1.5, marked the "last nail in the coffin" for MANY players, including myself). Obviously CCP should take a look at Sony, and realize that being versatile does not always prove successful, as Sony's investors are telling them to "trim the fat" (such as taking down the Playstation department due to it's many deficits over the years). Perhaps CCP could learn a lesson, or just find out eventually for themselves.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2215	Posted - 2013.09.24 22:31:00 - [23] - Quote DootDoot wrote: Many people seem to think there is going to be fighter's and a dog fighting part of DUST. Many people seem to think there is going to be fighters in Dust because fighters were part of Dust's original debut trailer and debut gameplay, as well as recent concept art and animations shown for them in Dust back at this year's fan fest (and heck, there's even concept art showing them in Dust during one of the loading screens). Also as stated EVE Valkyrie is planned as a stand-alone product and will not connect with EVE or Dust.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles 121	Posted - 2013.09.25 16:12:00 - [24] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: DootDoot wrote: Many people seem to think there is going to be fighter's and a dog fighting part of DUST. Many people seem to think there is going to be fighters in Dust because fighters were part of Dust's original debut trailer and debut gameplay, as well as recent concept art and animations shown for them in Dust back at this year's fan fest (and heck, there's even concept art showing them in Dust during one of the loading screens). Also as stated EVE Valkyrie is planned as a stand-alone product and will not connect with EVE or Dust. It isn't stated anywhere it's a stand alone project.. they are still theory crafting how it will even fit into the New Eden universe... the concept art and debut trailers of Fighters in DUST resemble the exact look of fighter hull's in EVE online... The assumption is not off... E-VR is a way better medium to have fighters in the new Eden galaxy as active roles then DUST could ever do... or EVE itsself for that matter. Aswell as give a direct means for competition to the FPS space sim that star citizen is building. As the Occulus rift add's more indepth gaming experience then any joystick and a monitor could.


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