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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:35:00 -
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If we all go Assault, take AR as primary weapon, SMG as side arm, Lai dai packed as grenades.
Then..maybe then people will see the problem, that or the won't be any problems since we're all using the same weapons |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:43:00 -
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so why isn't this the case now? |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:45:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:so why isn't this the case now?
Theres still like 5-10% of people including myself who hold onto the blind illusion that the other guns are worthwhile taking |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:46:00 -
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Lai dais? Everyone should run the core nades. Those little ***** need a nerf!
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2206
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:47:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:so why isn't this the case now? Theres still like 5-10% of people including myself who hold onto the blind illusion that the other guns are worthwhile taking The scrambler rifle and pistol are more than just worthwhile taking over the AR and SMG. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:51:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:so why isn't this the case now? Theres still like 5-10% of people including myself who hold onto the blind illusion that the other guns are worthwhile taking The scrambler rifle and pistol are more than just worthwhile taking over the AR and SMG.
Nope, as much as I love my Carthum and Imperial, AR's do just as much dps if not more, don't overheat, and they cost less SP |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:54:00 -
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Oh wow look another whining thread about ARs!! Who didn't see that coming????
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Chumlee Chummington
M.E.R.C. Elite League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:00:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Lai dais? Everyone should run the core nades. Those little ***** need a nerf!
+1 |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:19:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Oh wow look another whining thread about ARs!! Who didn't see that coming????
Lol, you say that like there isn't a serious issue |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2207
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:22:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:so why isn't this the case now? Theres still like 5-10% of people including myself who hold onto the blind illusion that the other guns are worthwhile taking The scrambler rifle and pistol are more than just worthwhile taking over the AR and SMG. Nope, as much as I love my Carthum and Imperial, AR's do just as much dps if not more, don't overheat, and they cost less SP Assault Scrambler rifles are a joke IMO, but I'll take you down any day with the charge scramblers. No where near as much DPS, like not even close.
And you didn't even address sidearms, where scrambler pistols are far superior especially if you have level 5 ops with 11 bullets per clip. |
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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:25:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:so why isn't this the case now? Theres still like 5-10% of people including myself who hold onto the blind illusion that the other guns are worthwhile taking The scrambler rifle and pistol are more than just worthwhile taking over the AR and SMG. Nope, as much as I love my Carthum and Imperial, AR's do just as much dps if not more, don't overheat, and they cost less SP Assault Scrambler rifles are a joke IMO, but I'll take you down any day with the charge scramblers. No where near as much DPS, like not even close. And you didn't even address sidearms, where scrambler pistols are far superior especially if you have level 5 ops with 11 bullets per clip.
Scrambler Pistols are good, but if your gonna take a scrambler rifle ya may as well take a flaylock, the pistols are great for headshots but when your strafing and the enemies strafing then the SMG is better |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:34:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Scrambler Pistols are good, but if your gonna take a scrambler rifle ya may as well take a flaylock, the pistols are great for headshots but when your strafing and the enemies strafing then the SMG is better
Thats only true if your aim s*cks.
Having said that, i have maxed out SMG's and Scrambler Pistols, but i am using the basic Flaylock, its either that or no sidearm to my Imperial, i dont have PG left on my suit and its at 92/92 PG, let alone 10 PG for a decent pistol :/ |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2207
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:41:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote: Scrambler Pistols are good, but if your gonna take a scrambler rifle ya may as well take a flaylock, the pistols are great for headshots but when your strafing and the enemies strafing then the SMG is better
Why flaylock. Scrambler pistol does what, 86 damage per shot then 11 shots per clip, so 946 potential damage (not even considering 120% versus shields)? You don't need all to hit, and if even one lands a headshot then it's almost a certain win.
I assume you suggested flaylock because of the "scrambler rifle to take out shields flaylock to take out armor" thing, but it's not that worth it when you consider the time it takes to switch weapons and readjust your aim. Let me be clear, I use the scrambler rifle and pistol not in conjunction but as substitutes for each other depending on the situation. And that said, any distance where strafing becomes a factor the scrambler rifle will suit and out DPS the AR, any situation closer and it's very easy to quickly unload the entire pistol clip right in the enemy.
I really wish I had a means to record by battles outside of off-camera. Not to toot my own horn, but when I play I wonder why I rarely see the scrambler rifle/pistol combo. Then I go to youtube and see so many AR/SMG combos that, while yes is really easy, looks incredibly boring and in many cases inefficient. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1941
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:47:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Why flaylock. Scrambler pistol does what, 86 damage per shot then 11 shots per clip, so 946 potential damage (not even considering 120% versus shields)? You don't need all to hit, and if even one lands a headshot then it's almost a certain win.
I assume you suggested flaylock because of the "scrambler rifle to take out shields flaylock to take out armor" thing, but it's not that worth it when you consider the time it takes to switch weapons and readjust your aim. Let me be clear, I use the scrambler rifle and pistol not in conjunction but as substitutes for each other depending on the situation. And that said, any distance where strafing becomes a factor the scrambler rifle will suit and out DPS the AR, any situation closer and it's very easy to quickly unload the entire pistol clip right in the enemy.
I really wish I had a means to record by battles outside of off-camera. Not to toot my own horn, but when I play I wonder why I rarely see the scrambler rifle/pistol combo. Then I go to youtube and see so many AR/SMG combos that, while yes is really easy, looks incredibly boring and in many cases inefficient. You see the problem most people have with this game is that they are stupid.
I'm glad I ran into a fellow pistol user and weapon situationally aware person |
Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:48:00 -
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I play a heavy. Adv suit basic. Hmg and an smg. I still got a positive kdr. I don't bother with assault. I learn to move and hide. Draw them in and blast em.
Assault are fine. Seems most people use em nit cause they are OP but comfortable. You find plent if assault weapons in most other games so they know how to use em and thus its easy.
So shush little one. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.09.24 07:47:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh wow look another whining thread about ARs!! Who didn't see that coming????
Lol, you say that like there isn't a serious issue
Of course that's what my post implied. So what's the issue here? The usage of it? Oh look, most players play assault class...does that need to be nerfed as well because folks use the class?
And please don't tell me its the stupid argument that an AR shouldn't be able to hit a target a 50m plus...cause that really doesn't make any sense. |
dustwaffle
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
570
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:25:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:You see the problem most people have with this game is that they are stupid. FTFY |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:30:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:If we all go Assault, take AR as primary weapon, SMG as side arm, Lai dai packed as grenades.
Then..maybe then people will see the problem, that or the won't be any problems since we're all using the same weapons
It hasn't seemed to so far.
This was pretty much the state of the game for a while now, and 1.4 made it even more so.
I think CCP is tone deaf to the wake up call.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1714
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:31:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Oh wow look another whining thread about ARs!! Who didn't see that coming????
Lol, you say that like there isn't a serious issue Of course that's what my post implied. So what's the issue here? The usage of it? Oh look, most players play assault class...does that need to be nerfed as well because folks use the class? And please don't tell me its the stupid argument that an AR shouldn't be able to hit a target a 50m plus...cause that really doesn't make any sense.
Lol. They shouldn't be OP. Does that make sense?
And, yeah, they are.
Hail AR 514. GHo AR or go home. |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1782
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Posted - 2013.09.25 04:05:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:so why isn't this the case now? because being OP is boring and easy to some people |
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