DUST Search - My suggestion to balancing Forge guns against infantry/vehicles.

Jake Diesel wrote:

Gallente Mercenary 08551380 wrote:

Hexen Trickster wrote:

My forge gun opinion is taken from dreadnoughts

Have them 'deploy' and act just like they currently do with a setup and teardown time. That way guys on towers cant just charge up fire a shot over the edge with pinpoint accuracy and walk back, this makes them vulnerable
However they can still shoot undeployed but suffer large accuracy loss like the sniper rifle so that at short ranges they can still be used effectively but cant be mega accurate

similar things could be done with rail tanks i think but i haven't given that much thought

Thats actually a really cool idea, I've been forge gunning since chrome and I feel like this would certainly balance it out. Like you have to set up a turret stand to put the FG on or something. And they could make it so that rail tanks have to put down stabilizing legs like how firetrucks have.

Good idea

I like this idea

Really? You've been forging that long? So exactly how often do you forge? Career forger? Casual? How many skill points have you invested in you total forge gun fit? 10 million? 15 million?


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Gallente Mercenary 08551380 The Vanguardians 27	Posted - 2013.09.23 18:01:00 - [1] - Quote Hexen Trickster wrote: My forge gun opinion is taken from dreadnoughts Have them 'deploy' and act just like they currently do with a setup and teardown time. That way guys on towers cant just charge up fire a shot over the edge with pinpoint accuracy and walk back, this makes them vulnerable However they can still shoot undeployed but suffer large accuracy loss like the sniper rifle so that at short ranges they can still be used effectively but cant be mega accurate similar things could be done with rail tanks i think but i haven't given that much thought Thats actually a really cool idea, I've been forge gunning since chrome and I feel like this would certainly balance it out. Like you have to set up a turret stand to put the FG on or something. And they could make it so that rail tanks have to put down stabilizing legs like how firetrucks have. Good idea I like this idea
Gallente Mercenary 08551380 The Vanguardians 29	Posted - 2013.09.24 03:31:00 - [2] - Quote Jake Diesel wrote: Gallente Mercenary 08551380 wrote: Hexen Trickster wrote: My forge gun opinion is taken from dreadnoughts Have them 'deploy' and act just like they currently do with a setup and teardown time. That way guys on towers cant just charge up fire a shot over the edge with pinpoint accuracy and walk back, this makes them vulnerable However they can still shoot undeployed but suffer large accuracy loss like the sniper rifle so that at short ranges they can still be used effectively but cant be mega accurate similar things could be done with rail tanks i think but i haven't given that much thought Thats actually a really cool idea, I've been forge gunning since chrome and I feel like this would certainly balance it out. Like you have to set up a turret stand to put the FG on or something. And they could make it so that rail tanks have to put down stabilizing legs like how firetrucks have. Good idea I like this idea Really? You've been forging that long? So exactly how often do you forge? Career forger? Casual? How many skill points have you invested in you total forge gun fit? 10 million? 15 million? Well I only have about 9 million SP, but forge is what i've always been in. When we got the respec I took it just so I could make my forge fits better. Anyways to answer your questions 1. I forge every day, 80% of my matches, been going into minmatar logi recently to switch it up a bit 2. Career forger? Well idk, I have forged and do forge alot but I dont always forge. Sometimes the situation or map just doesn't call for it. 3. Um... well, a majority of my sp is in heavy and forge so Proto heavy suits Proto forge guns with prof 3 and reload 2 Level 5 in armor plating, armor repair, and handheld weapon upgrades My go to fit after a long time forging is the following in case you wish to steal it 1 complex repair, 1 complex plate, 1 basic range extender 2 complex heavy damage mods Ishukone Assault Forge Gun Submachine Gun Flux nade each one costs about 150k isk But yeah, even I, a dedicated forge gunner feel that forge guns are overpowered right now. I admit it, and I exploit it daily because I can and i'm not proud of it but whatever. Even though forge guns are overpowered a numbers nerf is not the solution, you cant keep the feeling of power you get from the FG and nerf its numbers at the same time. I feel like that the idea of having to set up the forge gun (like a tripod or something of that nature) in order to achieve current levels of accuracy would be an elegant solution. Think about it, basically tower forging is suddenly not something you can do without getting sniped or counter forged, because you are forced to immobilize. But it doesent destroy long range forging against important targets because you can still get a good amount of shots off before you are found out and countered by the enemy. Then you would have to relocate and reposition. Allowing it to still fire undeployed is good because it allows you to still defend yourself, or get down and dirty against a tank that got to close or a lav trying to run you over. Again, I approve of this idea.
Gallente Mercenary 08551380 The Vanguardians 29	Posted - 2013.09.24 13:01:00 - [3] - Quote Jake Diesel wrote: Gallente Mercenary 08551380 wrote: Hexen Trickster wrote: My forge gun opinion is taken from dreadnoughts Have them 'deploy' and act just like they currently do with a setup and teardown time. That way guys on towers cant just charge up fire a shot over the edge with pinpoint accuracy and walk back, this makes them vulnerable However they can still shoot undeployed but suffer large accuracy loss like the sniper rifle so that at short ranges they can still be used effectively but cant be mega accurate similar things could be done with rail tanks i think but i haven't given that much thought Thats actually a really cool idea, I've been forge gunning since chrome and I feel like this would certainly balance it out. Like you have to set up a turret stand to put the FG on or something. And they could make it so that rail tanks have to put down stabilizing legs like how firetrucks have. Good idea I like this idea Really? You've been forging that long? So exactly how often do you forge? Career forger? Casual? How many skill points have you invested in you total forge gun fit? 10 million? 15 million? Well sir, I don't see you offering any solutions or ideas so why are you here. I mean, the fact of the matter is that I go 20/1 on every map that has a tower, I still think it would be a good idea. And no, the breach forge gun wouldnt simulate a tripod at all, the charge time is 3x and splash radius is half. You've been forging months prior to uprising? Well if you read my post correctly so have I, I was already speced into FG when I first started playing, and I used the respec to consolidate my skills. I've been forging since February. And i'm so sorry, I didn't know I had to play this game for more than 7 months in order to not be called a noob at it When did chromosome come out? Like December of 2012? It hasn't even been 12 months since then and I'm still a noob? I'll have you know I am no noob sir, and nor should my opinion be disregarded as if I am such.