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Ninjanomyx
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.22 20:53:00 -
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I find it interesting that even a Free SP "Incentive" is not enough to keep me even faux engaged..... I logged in today after 2 days of not logging in, realized I was logging into DUST 514, then immediately logged off. This is my 3rd time missing the Daily Active Bonus....
What incentive do I even have to "Hope" to want to play in the future??? As a Tanker I can safely say F**K this "Game"..... Wait 'till 1.4 they said, then 1.5 is for "Us"..... Now the Scrubby Kool-Aid guzzlers are all "Stop QQing & reserve judgement until 1.6"........ Should I stick my finger up my rectal cavity, then into my oral orifice, until 1.9??? I call bovine fecal matter....... Back to Diablo III I go!!!
TL:DR: See you on AFK Wednesday |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8712
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Posted - 2013.09.22 20:54:00 -
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Try something else? I hear scout LAVs are a real exciting challenge to drive. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
685
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Posted - 2013.09.22 20:58:00 -
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Try the next closest thing to a tank: a scout with a shotgun. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
685
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Posted - 2013.09.22 20:58:00 -
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...and give me all your ISK. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
438
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Posted - 2013.09.22 20:58:00 -
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but you took the time to log into the forums? who's going to believe that? |
pyramidhead 420
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2013.09.22 21:05:00 -
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what happens with the daily bonus, when you miss a day of login? back one step or back to square one? |
Avallo Kantor
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
184
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Posted - 2013.09.22 21:06:00 -
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While it's upsetting that tank changes (and the new weapons) were held back, I don't think they did it out of any form of malice or spite. Balancing things, as the past has proven, can be far more complicated than things that simply "look good on paper", as player skill, and the dynamics of the field can rocket things into being OP, or crush things into a UP state. If anything, I'd look forward to the notion that they have stated that they will open up proposed changes to the forums soon, and you will be able to put your own voice into making a change.
That said, I find the game quite engaging in a variety of ways, and the game is quite fun for me. I think an important thing to keep in mind is that despite many claims that it takes forever to skill into new weapons, only lvl 3 unlocks Adv, which is often a better ISK per Usefulness ratio than Proto. They are still competitive on public matches (not PC), and assuming you have the prereqs for the weapon (which you probably do for light weapons) then it's less than a week to get to lvl 3 in a new weapon.
I personally, as a die-hard Amarrian, love the SR, and LR weapons. A friend of mine is quite enamored with explosive weapons, such as the MD and Flaylock, as her aim is... loose. The game has a good variety of weapons, and with modules it's possible to field a wide variety of suits that can feel quite different from one another. Such as a shield tank skirmisher, vs an Armor tanker, vs a glass cannon.
It's highly doubtful you've tried out every weapon in the game, and branching out can be cheaper than one may assume. (especially if you don't aim for full lvl V and prof V) Many different play styles exist, and can be quite profitable (if not K/D heavy) as well as fun to play.
I'd suggest to watch a few of CEOpyrex's videos if you ever want to see how he tries out various things. |
Ninjanomyx
TeamPlayers EoN.
329
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Posted - 2013.09.22 22:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Try something else? I hear scout LAVs are a real exciting challenge to drive.
You are still irrelevant......grats
Avallo Kantor wrote:While it's upsetting that tank changes (and the new weapons) were held back, I don't think they did it out of any form of malice or spite. Balancing things, as the past has proven, can be far more complicated than things that simply "look good on paper", as player skill, and the dynamics of the field can rocket things into being OP, or crush things into a UP state. If anything, I'd look forward to the notion that they have stated that they will open up proposed changes to the forums soon, and you will be able to put your own voice into making a change.
That said, I find the game quite engaging in a variety of ways, and the game is quite fun for me. I think an important thing to keep in mind is that despite many claims that it takes forever to skill into new weapons, only lvl 3 unlocks Adv, which is often a better ISK per Usefulness ratio than Proto. They are still competitive on public matches (not PC), and assuming you have the prereqs for the weapon (which you probably do for light weapons) then it's less than a week to get to lvl 3 in a new weapon.
I personally, as a die-hard Amarrian, love the SR, and LR weapons. A friend of mine is quite enamored with explosive weapons, such as the MD and Flaylock, as her aim is... loose. The game has a good variety of weapons, and with modules it's possible to field a wide variety of suits that can feel quite different from one another. Such as a shield tank skirmisher, vs an Armor tanker, vs a glass cannon.
It's highly doubtful you've tried out every weapon in the game, and branching out can be cheaper than one may assume. (especially if you don't aim for full lvl V and prof V) Many different play styles exist, and can be quite profitable (if not K/D heavy) as well as fun to play.
I'd suggest to watch a few of CEOpyrex's videos if you ever want to see how he tries out various things.
You are obviously new here so I'll take it easy on you....... I'm an Uprising/Precursor E3 Build Vet, have tried every possible Build (Hurray for ALTS...), and I main as a Top Tanker. CCP has been neglecting Tanks & Dropships ever since Replication came & went. There is no hope for the future of Vehicles in DUST thanx to BLAM....& Wolfman is in a Canoe heading up ****'s Creek without a paddle |
DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2013.09.22 22:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Try something else? I hear scout LAVs are a real exciting challenge to drive.
Did IWS just tell ninjanomyx to try another vehicle in DUST? DAMN IWS... YOU really must try and find the server que's with no real competition just a bunch of militia fit people and reque there all day....
Just wow.....
People like Ninja should of been made part of a panel to help tanks be balanced in DUST.... not have a CPM troll him.... |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
438
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Posted - 2013.09.22 22:31:00 -
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Quit bitching u bacon smelling GALLENTE |
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Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
196
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Posted - 2013.09.22 23:03:00 -
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Ninjanomyx wrote:You are obviously new here so I'll take it easy on you....... I'm an Uprising/Precursor E3 Build Vet, have tried every possible Build (Hurray for ALTS...), and I main as a Top Tanker. CCP has been neglecting Tanks & Dropships ever since Replication came & went. There is no hope for the future of Vehicles in DUST thanx to BLAM....& Wolfman is in a Canoe heading up ****'s Creek without a paddle Ninjanomyx wrote: (Hurray for ALTS...)
DootDoot wrote: Did IWS just tell ninjanomyx to try another vehicle in DUST? DAMN IWS... YOU really must try and find the server que's with no real competition just a bunch of militia fit people and reque there all day....
Just wow.....
People like Ninja should of been made part of a panel to help tanks be balanced in DUST.... not have a CPM troll him....
Ninjanomyx wrote: (Hurray for ALTS...)
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DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2013.09.22 23:11:00 -
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Silas Swakhammer wrote:Ninjanomyx wrote:You are obviously new here so I'll take it easy on you....... I'm an Uprising/Precursor E3 Build Vet, have tried every possible Build (Hurray for ALTS...), and I main as a Top Tanker. CCP has been neglecting Tanks & Dropships ever since Replication came & went. There is no hope for the future of Vehicles in DUST thanx to BLAM....& Wolfman is in a Canoe heading up ****'s Creek without a paddle Ninjanomyx wrote: (Hurray for ALTS...)
DootDoot wrote: Did IWS just tell ninjanomyx to try another vehicle in DUST? DAMN IWS... YOU really must try and find the server que's with no real competition just a bunch of militia fit people and reque there all day....
Just wow.....
People like Ninja should of been made part of a panel to help tanks be balanced in DUST.... not have a CPM troll him....
Ninjanomyx wrote: (Hurray for ALTS...)
Predicate is correct but wrong person... or even side... |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1210
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Posted - 2013.09.22 23:13:00 -
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a thread about a tanker complaining...NO....WAY... |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
445
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Posted - 2013.09.22 23:26:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:a thread about a tanker complaining...NO....WAY...
look, we all saw king's surprised face! |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2153
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Posted - 2013.09.22 23:33:00 -
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20 consecutive days right here. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
71
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Posted - 2013.09.23 08:58:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:what happens with the daily bonus, when you miss a day of login? back one step or back to square one?
Back to square one.
Mmmm Diablo III |
castba
Penguin's March
138
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Posted - 2013.09.23 09:07:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:pyramidhead 420 wrote:what happens with the daily bonus, when you miss a day of login? back one step or back to square one? Back to square one. Mmmm Diablo III As it should be |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
402
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Posted - 2013.09.23 09:18:00 -
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Ninjanomyx wrote:I find it interesting that even a Free SP "Incentive" is not enough to keep me even faux engaged..... I logged in today after 2 days of not logging in, realized I was logging into DUST 514, then immediately logged off. This is my 3rd time missing the Daily Active Bonus.... What incentive do I even have to "Hope" to want to play in the future??? As a Tanker I can safely say F**K this "Game"..... Wait 'till 1.4 they said, then 1.5 is for "Us"..... Now the Scrubby Kool-Aid guzzlers are all "Stop QQing & reserve judgement until 1.6"........ Should I stick my finger up my rectal cavity, then into my oral orifice, until 1.9??? I call bovine fecal matter....... Back to Diablo III I go!!!TL:DR: See you on AFK Wednesday Been logging on every day with three different characters religiously. Then going to play Diablo III/GTA 5 or immediately turning off the PS3.
Wish I had the balls to AFK. Total failure here, try to go and do something only to head right back and get in the game. The one time I succeeded the bathroom got very clean and nice smelling. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8740
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Posted - 2013.09.23 09:40:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Try something else? I hear scout LAVs are a real exciting challenge to drive. Did IWS just tell ninjanomyx to try another vehicle in DUST? DAMN IWS... YOU really must try and find the server que's with no real competition just a bunch of militia fit people and reque there all day.... Just wow..... People like Ninja should of been made part of a panel to help tanks be balanced in DUST.... not have a CPM troll him....
I will state it again. Specific discipline players in Dust are not as useful CPMs.
A Dust University Instructor is far more valuable as a CPM than all of the braggers who only see themselves at the top leaderboard of every class/role in the game combined. This is of course discounting those who are on top of the leaderboards but don't see themselves as such as part of that group.
A CPM is far more useful in getting a developer to share of what he thinks what HAVs and related modules and skills should be with you guys early enough so the 'experts' can comment on them, the math wizards theory craft, and honest folks pointing out possible exploits or near game breaking numbers. |
DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DootDoot wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Try something else? I hear scout LAVs are a real exciting challenge to drive. Did IWS just tell ninjanomyx to try another vehicle in DUST? DAMN IWS... YOU really must try and find the server que's with no real competition just a bunch of militia fit people and reque there all day.... Just wow..... People like Ninja should of been made part of a panel to help tanks be balanced in DUST.... not have a CPM troll him.... I will state it again. Specific discipline players in Dust are not as useful CPMs. A Dust University Instructor is far more valuable as a CPM than all of the braggers who only see themselves at the top leaderboard of every class/role in the game combined. This is of course discounting those who are on top of the leaderboards but don't see themselves as such as part of that group. A CPM is far more useful in getting a developer to share of what he thinks what HAVs and related modules and skills should be with you guys early enough so the 'experts' can comment on them, the math wizards theory craft, and honest folks pointing out possible exploits or near game breaking numbers.
The honest folks are theory crafting and finding the bug's and are usually on here the next day pointing it out while Dust university defend's it.
And this is the problem with CPM thinking and possibly CCP right here..... The people like Ninja.. are asset's while developing.
These people are at the pinnacle of ability in DUST but CCP and IWS would rather take examples from DUST university...
How do you expect to make the game balanced when talking to people who don't even know the potential of what you can do with the tools available.
EVERY major competitive FPS title will fly's some of the best gamers from around the world for an all expense trip to just play their game and theory craft.. bug exploit and explore... why? Because the pinnacle of the genre will will show you your ass end quick.
Now the community must rely on IWS who makes comment's like.. DUST university instructor's have a more valueable input... bucking the formula for every successful shooter in existence.... Do you not know that thing's are best tested and theory crafted for extreme's? and that's why CCP released unbalanced content from unbalanced content...
And you keep Ok'ing the numbers and say.... meh screw it Iron Wolf Saber wrote:[" what HAVs and related modules and skills should be with you guys early enough so the 'experts' can comment on them, the math wizards theory craft, and honest folks pointing out possible exploits or near game breaking numbers....
What group do you fit into IWS? |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1386
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:34:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:... I'm an ass because I'm the best and matter most ...
Dumb troll is troll. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
76
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:49:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Ninjanomyx wrote:I find it interesting that even a Free SP "Incentive" is not enough to keep me even faux engaged..... I logged in today after 2 days of not logging in, realized I was logging into DUST 514, then immediately logged off. This is my 3rd time missing the Daily Active Bonus.... What incentive do I even have to "Hope" to want to play in the future??? As a Tanker I can safely say F**K this "Game"..... Wait 'till 1.4 they said, then 1.5 is for "Us"..... Now the Scrubby Kool-Aid guzzlers are all "Stop QQing & reserve judgement until 1.6"........ Should I stick my finger up my rectal cavity, then into my oral orifice, until 1.9??? I call bovine fecal matter....... Back to Diablo III I go!!!TL:DR: See you on AFK Wednesday Been logging on every day with three different characters religiously. Then going to play Diablo III/GTA 5 or immediately turning off the PS3. Wish I had the balls to AFK. Total failure here, try to go and do something only to head right back and get in the game. The one time I succeeded the bathroom got very clean and nice smelling.
Hehe I'm about to log in with my three chars for the daily bonuses right now - though actually been playing with an active scanner on one of them - quite good fun.
IWS, people tend to start ignoring you when you aren't constructive and behave like a troll. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8748
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Posted - 2013.09.23 17:23:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DootDoot wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Try something else? I hear scout LAVs are a real exciting challenge to drive. Did IWS just tell ninjanomyx to try another vehicle in DUST? DAMN IWS... YOU really must try and find the server que's with no real competition just a bunch of militia fit people and reque there all day.... Just wow..... People like Ninja should of been made part of a panel to help tanks be balanced in DUST.... not have a CPM troll him.... I will state it again. Specific discipline players in Dust are not as useful CPMs. A Dust University Instructor is far more valuable as a CPM than all of the braggers who only see themselves at the top leaderboard of every class/role in the game combined. This is of course discounting those who are on top of the leaderboards but don't see themselves as such as part of that group. A CPM is far more useful in getting a developer to share of what he thinks what HAVs and related modules and skills should be with you guys early enough so the 'experts' can comment on them, the math wizards theory craft, and honest folks pointing out possible exploits or near game breaking numbers. The honest folks are theory crafting and finding the bug's and are usually on here the next day pointing it out while Dust university defend's it. And this is the problem with CPM thinking and possibly CCP right here..... The people like Ninja.. are asset's while developing. These people are at the pinnacle of ability in DUST but CCP and IWS would rather take examples from DUST university... How do you expect to make the game balanced when talking to people who don't even know the potential of what you can do with the tools available. EVERY major competitive FPS title will fly's some of the best gamers from around the world for an all expense trip to just play their game and theory craft.. bug exploit and explore... why? Because the pinnacle of the genre will will show you your ass end quick. Now the community must rely on IWS who makes comment's like.. DUST university instructor's have a more valueable input... bucking the formula for every successful shooter in existence.... Do you not know that thing's are best tested and theory crafted for extreme's? and that's why CCP released unbalanced content from unbalanced content... And you keep Ok'ing the numbers and say.... meh screw it Iron Wolf Saber wrote:[" what HAVs and related modules and skills should be with you guys early enough so the 'experts' can comment on them, the math wizards theory craft, and honest folks pointing out possible exploits or near game breaking numbers.... What group do you fit into IWS?
WOOSH.
Failure to account message Biased Opinion Premeditated position to cause strife. Ultimately wrong on the subject overall with development teamps and 'top' players (who have an amazing track record of ramming games into the ground once caved into) Second Failure discounting the message of the statement as to why a "Community" type player is far more important as a CPM than any single field specific expert being a CPM.
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DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
92
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Posted - 2013.09.23 17:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: WOOSH.
Failure to account message Biased Opinion Premeditated position to cause strife. Ultimately wrong on the subject overall with development teamps and 'top' players (who have an amazing track record of ramming games into the ground once caved into) Second Failure discounting the message of the statement as to why a "Community" type player is far more important as a CPM than any single field specific expert being a CPM.
I accounted your message fine and most people read it as the same.
Biased opinion? who am I? sigh... He is one of the best vehicle specialist in the game ... there is no debating that. even though I've fought him through all my DUST...
premeditated position? sigh.... obviously good damage control efforts?
Not wrong on subject... not at all You can quote any shooter development process that is credible and they have a panel of the 'elite" FPS comunity testing and going through the balance and tweak issues. That is fact since counter-strike... to RO2 now.. http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/13/call-of-duty-red-orchestra-2-interview/
A FPS community lives and dies on it's talented players and the drive and motivation for mediocre players to get there... Casual's will kill even the biggest game with the biggest budget and craziest dev team. WoW? GW2? Halo4? >.>
And no I don't count you as a CPM, you forum warrior and defend bad choices CCP makes all day... CPM is a farce created by CCP to appease people who don't know any better. 90% of the CPM's don't even play DUST. One doesn't even own a playstation. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
403
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:13:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:Try the next closest thing to a tank: a scout with a shotgun.
Damn, I lol'd, but it's true! Whenever I tank or I play a shotgun scout I feel the same way.
Adrenaline and panic (especially panic) for the whole match. You can't really find boring playing one of those, but you're most likely going to find them frustrating! |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1931
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Try something else? I hear scout LAVs are a real exciting challenge to drive. Gallente LAVs are **** especially with a PG nerf.
Go Caldari LAVs if you actually want to survive...it also helps that all the AV besides forge is Anti- armor.
I really regret dumping SP into getting my methana good when my free BPO saga survives twice as long and I use militia shield modules on it taking about 300,000 SP to be good....compared to 2.1 million SP for my methana and is still ****.
tl;dr
Go with Caldari LAVs, always. |
loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:24:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Anarchide wrote:Try the next closest thing to a tank: a scout with a shotgun. Damn, I lol'd, but it's true! Whenever I tank or I play a shotgun scout I feel the same way. Adrenaline and panic (especially panic) for the whole match. You can't really find boring playing one of those, but you're most likely going to find them frustrating!
Indeed lol, I feel the same with my dropship. Being a scout/dropship pilot I am beginning to realize that I am a masochist as I keep putting my 1 million isk chip on the table in exchange for more adrenaline. |
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