1. The heavy should be the primary AV specialist.

Ideally, they should have the best tool for the job, currently the forge gun. The suit itself needs protection from infantry, and is mobility limited. This enforces the need for one heavy suit to focus on tactics to tackle one tank. It also means that a tank must think tactically to avoid getting slapped by a heavy.

A well fitted heavy should be an effective counter to a tank. It then becomes a fight between the tank, which has greater mobility and HP, and the heavy, which has the potential to ambush, trap, use height, etc.

In this type of scenario, you could even bump up FG direct damage if you raised fitting costs to minimize protection on the fat suit. Or you could leave the damage as it is, and reduce fitting costs, to allow a heavy the chance to sit and trade with a tank.

2. Swarms are really pathetic.

The entire idea of how swarms work is completely silly. I don't care about any of the alleged reasons behind it, the behaviour of swarms ruins any type of engagement, because it is a no brainer. 2 guys with MLT swams can overwhelm almost any tank in less than 6 seconds. It is absurd. Beyond that, they are largely ineffective against their primary target, which I would assume to be DS's and LAV's, and instead get spammed onto tanks with hilarious results for the infantry, but deeply unpleasant for the tankers.


1 heavy with a FG should be able to output at least 3 swarm users output over the same time. This means a drastic nerf to the swarms. This promotes the proper relationship of suits, with tanks being powerful against infantry, AV being very strong against tanks, and the AV troop(heavy) being weak to infantry.

Non heavy suits should have an AV option, but it should not be the teams primary choice for AV work.

3. Nuclear baseballs.

I get it that infantry need an option for a rampaging tank on a spawn point. All I think needs to be done is to ramp up the fitting costs on the AV grenades and lower damage levels at ADV. I don't mind if someone wants to use a set of Lai Dais to deal me 6k damage. I can appreciate the balls. What I DO mind is them being able to effectively roll that option while having a very viable anti-infantry fit as well.

Packing AV grenades should mean that the infantry has made a choice to sacrifice either tank, or their anti-infantry capability in order to pack that type of AV damage.

The other way to do it is make them low damage, but instead of three, you get 5. That way, they can be spammed to keep vehicles at bay, but not kill anything but stupid tank drivers.

From reading suit descriptions, the heavy is supposed to be my main infantry based opponent. Ideally they should be the only suit that has the tank to stand and trade with a tank. And yes, I would rather fight an infantry with a super high power straight shooting rail gun than someone who can dip behind cover or jump around while locking me up and then hurl rockets at me. Are you calling a heavy who I can't see up on a roof top with great sightlines a sitting duck? Although true, he isn't a sitting duck for me. I need infantry help to drop him. The stronger his AV ability, the lower his tank should be. Right now, doing over 2200 damage is perfectly fine, and carrying around 12-1400 HP while doing it is a bit low. Heavies need more HP, and probably a speed bump, but that is for the suit in general, although it would greatly assist them in the AV role.

Why do you act like me calling for a damage reduction in swarms will suddenly make them non viable? If you got proto swarm damage by 30% to bring it in line with the other weapon scales, it would not instantly make them useless, it would merely require more thought to their use, or for them to be used by more than one person to kill a tank. One person would still be able to drive off a tank, because only idiots hang around with swarms.

In PC, you are not bringing passengers, and hopping out of your tank suddenly kills you. Coming to a complete stop in order to attempt to shoot an infantry user running at my tank hurling grenades is not an option, not counting the fact that I don't have a dropsuit that is for fighting, I am a tanker. If they would have given me a pilot suit I would be in that and even weaker on the ground. Giving up a flux or a locus grenade is not enough of a sacrifice for gaining such strong AV capability. Increase fitting costs of AV grenades by 15%

you idiot they're no counters to swarms, when 1 burst from a militia swarm can take 1/1/3 hp off, imagine 2 or 3 av people. get skill stop trying to defend av. 3 tanks destroyed 1 game with militia swarm by MY SELF. ps heavy camping on tower with forge gun is beyond OP, tanks cant fight back.