I got PROTO Swarms, PROTO Packed AV nades, and Adv. FG's and PC's. Try that again.

The scrub thing refers to people who wants vehicles to cost just as much or lower priced, and be as **** as they are now, or even shitter, and think that they should fire off one or two shots and kill us. You don't seem like that kind of person. I was referring to Delta and King, and any other idiot who thinks like this.

1: Not at all.

2: You mad bro?

I swear you remind of a ******* ******** group trying to troll me. Weirdly, you have the Word King in the name (like them), and they call themselves the King family lol.

agreed. but tanks need to be buffed so they are at least viable investments, not the jokes they are now.

only the noobs want invincibility if you haven't already noticed, the reals ones just want survivability.

you don't need to cry, Im trying to talk to you normally, without attitude and anger. I would appreciate if you did the same.

tanks are too expensive period. they are not worth their cost in almost every engagement, the only time we do turn a profit or close to it, we destroy other tanks.

in order to have more HP we do sacrifice speed but he get around that by having after burners on, char is an example of that.

but at the same time, this game is still part of EVE so it makes sense for the same things to effect EVE are effecting Dust.

in EVE the Gallente are the masters of armor technology and they are able to have more armor on and not be gimped by speed penalty, thus they are good for close combat, the caldari are not masters of armor, they work with shields and thus are slow because they cannot give more HP and have racial abilities with speed, which is why they are used for long range combat.

that is the way it is iin Dust also.

AV grenades or as we like to call them LOLnades.. do not have any drawback for the user, they do not take up much PG/CPU and thus you can be very effective in infantry and tanks at the same time.
-YOU.ARE.WRONG. They do have a drawback. THEY ARE TAKING MY ONLY GRENADE SLOT.lol i can tell you havnt been out of your tank for a while.You know how PAINFUL it is to trade my M-1 locus nades for an AV grenade JUST IN CASE,a tank gets near me? (Because i consider myself smart,and im not running in the open TOWARDS A TANK lol)
Of course it has a drawback,and considering how good locus/flux grenades are, its a BIG drawback.

they take almost no effort to use other than needing a nanohive to spam them like little trolls.
You are talking about a specific situation. In a city map. This is not possible to do in open maps like manus peak,where snipers,vehicles and other infantry take clear shots at you. You talk about playing smart, you shouldnt be wandering IN cities. As tanks and snipers own in open maps, infantry owns in city/CQ areas...I mean, 6 to 9 MTS RANGE. if you let enemy infantry to be TAHT close from your tank,you are doing something wrong

AV nades are the worst AV weapon in the game, it negates one of concepts of the game where you need to sacrifice something in order to gain something else..
I already explained this one.

they also do as much damage as a forge and thus are always used as a primary AV weapon and not an situational weapon like your suggesting it is.
It is a situational weapon. 0 to 9mts range. Vs tanks,that have 100+ mts range turrets....

in short, no vehicle pilot respect lolnade users.
Its not meant to be respected.ITs meant to be hated.

it takes up one of your grenade slots... lol that's all you can come up with?

you still have your primary and secondary weapons lol, your not affected by it at all.

Because I didn't start by using MLT hulls, modules and turrets. Because I didn't throw my Somas and Sicas against the best tankers in the game who were using the Surya and Sagaris. It didn't take a eureka moment, like when I bought Aurum turrets and hulls, to really figure it out and say "so this is how it's supposed to be."
Good for you i guess?


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No, you're wrong. Since I forgot Weaponry, I'll include it. 62,180 for Weaponry 3, 136,800 for light weapon operation 3, and another 136,800 for swarm operation 3. Also, incase you didn't notice, they're 'Haywire' Wiyrkomi swarms, the Aurum variant, which as usual, is unlocked early.

So you are assuming everybody is gonna pay to win, you know to save themselves half a million SP...Im a TRUE AV infantry player.I was not talking about AUR versions of AV weaponry.




We don't have ADV or PRO vehicles.===>Nor you should have them,EVER....
Why, because they'd be too powerful to solo?
YES.



Since you say you've tried tanking, which is probably a lie, though maybe not considering the MLT hulls are terrible, why are you so against tanks if you found them so difficult to use? Since it's hard for you to use, that means they're bad? I think that means something else is bad.
No im a bad tanker and i admit it.While playing with friends i usually go 25+ kills and no deaths,because i command them to take out AV specialists.They PLAY to mantain the Tank alive and repair it.But i dont use Cover, i dont play smart.I play as a i play as an assault., Move fast hit hard,after everything is dead, run away,regenerate,come back.Of course in open maps this strategy does not work very well. IM NOT AGAINST tanks not vehicles overall.I undestand you get that impression but most of the times is me overreacting to the numerous NERF AV threads (i do get agitated about nerf posts,and after getting EVERY single proto AV weaponry available the fact all of that would be nerfed too is just an unbareble thought.I already have scouts and commandos that suck....). Neither do i think tanks are UP. Im a horrible tanker and i've still managed pretty good games,with a bad tank and bad tanking strategies.TBH,vs Infantry i dont have much of problem at all.My tank is very speedy and can take 3-4 Proto AVs anytime.After the 2nd hit im already 300 mts away....ITs vs other tanks that i suck the most...


Next time another non-pilot makes a thread about tanks, whatever it may be, remember this thread.===>Its funny. YOu might have used AVs in the past. BUT YOU ARE NOT AN AV SOLDIER.Yet you do give your opinion on everything AV related dont you? but you think someone who DOESNT tank 100% of the time cant give his opinion on tanks? Talk about bad logic...

I could easily go 50/50 running a forge and tank. I know very well how both sides are. If I don't get a tank, I think to myself, maybe next time. I don't stampede onto the forums and proclaim that tanks are too overpowered for me to solo with a forge. Yeah, I try it; sometimes it works, sometimes not. I don't cry about it on the forums when I fail.
Well im not crying about anything.I just give TANKERS examples of TIMEs i have not been able to kill a tank with my proto AV.Why? well tankers here say they get 2HKO by swarms and that Forge guns are unavoidable.... If i was really that bad at AV,i wouldnt call myself an AV specialist....

So you're saying that:

1: Your infantry game shouldn't be disturbed because someone wanted to be a pilot, and if so, you should kill him/her and make them lose several games worth ISK?
If he gets in an area of 10- mts of an infantry.YEah. You have 100+mts weapons.Use the range....

2: vehicles shouldn't be able to kill anyone on half the maps because you said so?
Not because i said so.Because thats how it is. There are areas where different kind of military assets work better or worse.
So you are saying tanks should be able to own, NOT ONLY on open fields , BUT I CITIES TOO?

3: Even though you can throw a AV grenade much further than 10 meters, that's bullshit?
Yeah huh,the sleek grenades. Tell me how much damage you get from a 700dm grenade vs your 6000+HP with resistance tank.
Drama queen much

Yea, you idiot scrubs are drunk.
My current state is of no interest to you. As it is, im still ok...

Armor plates do. Like I said, we have Nitro.

That means we can escape AV grenade spam too fast, and that's just not allowed.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

So you're mad we have a module to make us move faster? Gets us away from AV grenade spam. Areas we're not supposed to be in? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

What, is the map your "room," and you don't want your annoying little brother coming in? LOL!

My current state is of no interest to you. As it is, im still ok...

Where did I say any of that?

No it wasn't. I never said anything of the sort. I was laughing at you because you said it's not fair we have a nitrous module. How did you come to the brilliant conclusion that I was inadvertently whining for everything else you mentioned?

I think his roast is ready

There is no oasis for vehicle vs vehicle, so why should there be for infantry vs infantry?

I think a blood vessel popped. You might want to have it checked out. You're delusional right now. Nothing you're saying makes any sense.

Wait, so I have to redline snipe? You've gotten inline with Luki.

I don't need your opinion or pity for my witty and sarcastic comments thank you.

I"m a gunner in a derpship often enough to know how screwed they are. But, I did specifically mention tanks, not vehicles. No need to be angry with me.

the recall system is TANKERS counter to you AV.

1: You swerved my response. First off, good pilots don't recall unless they're changing fits. Second off, recalling after fighting infantry in the redline is not what I said; I said fighting VEHICLES.
I've seen tankers change tanks up to 6 times in a single match.Just because.....

2: Dipshit, I'm not your brother.
Its just internet slang. DOnt need to get riled up. I would be ashamed to have a douche as a brother.

3: That's a horrible idea. For one, those things are ****, and second, it won't help you like a scanner, nitro, heat sink, or DCU will.
Well told you i was a sucky tanker. ty for the info

4: There's no other kind of armor based HAV other than Gallente atm, so call it Gallente. It'll make you look smarter, and you really need the help, as you are looking pretty ******* stupid.
You seem ok with looking stupid so......
ok.Gallante it is then...

Nope. Changing it so where until the modules cool off, and it will come in with the same health (maybe slightly repped, say 50-100 HP/s for both tanks) as it had when it lefted the ground.

no, because you infantry can still switch out your dropsuits in battle.

If make right, it will have the same or more HP than a CRU. Good luck with that.