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Posted - 2013.09.22 11:02:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:straya fox wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Oh man the AR maffia are at it again?
If It's not the MD users ( or any other gun ) , it's the logies doing there job getting WP, now it's the tankers and the KDR? !
What's next? maybe we need to nerf the dropships sence they can put ppl where the AR maffia can t go them self!
Let's just remove everything but the caldari ASSULT and the AR from the game.
Hail ZERG Chill man, i'm not saying nerf anything just the high expense of tanks is directly related to the high KDR that it entails... To increase cost for Tanks is a nerf if anything so you are must certainly barking up the nerf three bro. I'm not saying increase cost, they are already very expensive. I am trying to say ( which i thought was quite clear ) is the high cost of tanks is in direct relation to the high KDR that tankers achieve.
Look at the leader boards and its not hav pilots with all the insain kdrs it snipers and proto stomping assaults yes tankers get lotsof kills when were tanking but to fund our efforts we run free ssuits and die allot thusly decreasing our kdr . Most serious tankers dont care about our kdr record wr acctually just want to have fun . |
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Posted - 2013.09.22 11:10:00 -
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Void weve veen throug several nerfs as tankers and still we held out and carried on holding the flag. Yes our tanks need a buff and with tankers like you anf I arroun who are happy to help the new tankers then tanking in dust will never die out . It will just remain as difficult and possibly vecome more elietist than it is just now. (That is not a good thin) but on the other hand if they make it too easy then tanks will be spammed lime the llavs were and a nerf would shortly follow. Its a good thing tanking isnt easy but its a bad tging if its too hard. |
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Posted - 2013.09.22 11:59:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:I don't want to offend you, but people like you, assuming that the only reason to tank is to boost KDR, are the main reason why the vehicle-infantry relationship in this game sucks that hard.
Anyway, if it were so easy to raise (this horrible thing which is) KDR, anyone in this game would be a tanker. Instead, tankers are maybe the 2% (just guessing) of the playerbase.
And if you wonder why... you can always call a tank and try to harvest kills.
You are correct sir most folks view tankd as killing mchiens with no other purpose but we fill a variety of rolles.
If you have a tanker on your squad then you should encourage them to use gadjets like scanners and mobile crus.
We are also exelent point DEFENCE wepons, if you have a blaster tank in a good position coveri g the rear objective then it will take an incredible ammount of coordination to take that objective . Many times when my corp stacked squads into fw I was often orderd to hold down the rear objective this role will not net you many kills if your enimy is smart and dosent run into your missiles or blaster fire like suicidal lemmings. But it will make sure the rear objective is allways a safe spawn location.
Red line rail tanks as much as everyone hates them are the ultimate area denile when enimy tanks are concerned as only a bad pilot will rush the front lines when a red line rail is present.
As I often tell new pilots dont over extend your reach and stick to the 3 ds of tanking Distract Demoralise and Destroy . If you follow these rules you will do well. But if you see the red mist and start chasing kills like a beserker you will die allot and shortly be out of isk. |
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Posted - 2013.09.22 12:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:straya fox wrote:True Adamance wrote:straya fox wrote:Just saying mabe u guys are just paying for your KDR.. You know that isn't true or I would be doing better in the games I play with you and Strong. And i hope you read the whole thread in regards to my train of thought... Admittedly didn't. As to your point to Void I can loosehalf a dozen tanks a match if I keep bringing them in.... they are Soma though....
I have hylighted your problem right there. Yes I know and understand why you havent specked into the fotm maddys . Yes I agree with why you havent . But you will looses allot of tanks if you run malitia tanks. |
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Posted - 2013.09.22 13:00:00 -
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6000ehp is quite low but its stil a well fit soma. I do have allot of fun running my sicas on occasion becaus I can afford to be more reckless. Thats the beauty of shitfits . My gunlogis have roughly 9kehp and my maddys 12kehp but when onbcooldown that ehp drops dramaticly. |
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Posted - 2013.09.22 13:25:00 -
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Starya your many points and arguments are flawed in several aspects.
When you state things like tanks pay for a high kdr and are met with valid counter arguments like if we loose 1 tank every 5 games we are in a net loss. Unless we run 10 or 12 games of ambush in free suits. Do you know how mant times you can die in an ambus with free suits lol that totally negates our good kdr stats from tanking .
Tanks are not worth the current isk cost as it takes 5 games at keast to pay for a tank that can survive more than 4 or 5 vollys of swarms . When they reduced the module cost they doubled the turret price and that ended out with havs being more expensive than they were in chrome whare we acctually did domminate a battlefield.
Honestly most of the vet tankers like myself havs stayed with tanking after several nerfs not because wr want to be team stomping monsters but because we want to have fun in our tanks. Yes it may be hard to believe us tankers just want to have fun but having to grind 5 to 10 games of ambush in free suits to pay for 1 loss is not fun .... we are really the only class (other than comando) that is not viable for pc all tanks are good for in oc is point defense or rail snioing other tanks (if the proto av dosent get them first) we are the only class not to have anything proto . Thats just not fun when you are pitted up against wepons designed to destroy vehicles that are miles ahead of what we have.
If I you ever see me ingame squad up with me and ill drop you a tank of the highest speck (highest meta fit possible) aprox 2.4 mill (youll of couse send me the isk) then you can run it and see how its not worth its isk |
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