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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.09.22 09:29:00 -
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don't care about K/D, I cant buy my fittings with K/D... iv tried... they only thing that is acceptable as income in the game is ISK so give me more of that. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.09.22 09:41:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Void Echo wrote:don't care about K/D, I cant buy my fittings with K/D... iv tried... they only thing that is acceptable as income in the game is ISK so give me more of that. Fair enough, but 5 proto assault deaths is equivalent to 1 decent tank death, in terms of isk, but tankers such as yourself surely do not lose much per match for your 30-40 kills.
the way we play is that when tanks aren't needed, we go as infantry until we can afford to get more tanks..
I don't lose much, maybe one every 5-10 rounds.. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.09.22 11:04:00 -
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straya fox wrote: I understand that you'r one of the better tankers void, but within those 5-10 matches where you lose only 1 tank you rack up a huge amount of kills without loss. What I'm trying to say in response to the many 'turrets and hulls cost to much threads' ,is mabe you guys are paying for that KDR.
ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: so while alot of mercs go negative isk or break even you are in fact in your 5-10 matches probably making isk or at the very least getting great KDR. and you say tanks need buffs
lol I go an assault infantry 90% of the time now, I know when and where to use tanks and when & where to go as infantry.
its something all tankers learn as a basic rule.
normally I get higher kd as an assaulter than I do as a tanker but again, I only care about the isk and excitement I get from lighting up the enemy team.
plus, tanking is a very exceptional skill and many of us take great pride in tanking.
the reason I say tanks need buffs is because the noobie tankers get discouraged from tanking because of how weak it is, without new tankers, the class will die with me and the other tank vets that are still here. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.09.22 11:07:00 -
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Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:Void Echo wrote:don't care about K/D, I cant buy my fittings with K/D... iv tried... they only thing that is acceptable as income in the game is ISK so give me more of that. Would it make tankers happy if there'd be a paper thin but cheap tank which doesn't cost more than a dropsuit but isn't any more effective either?
isn't that a heavy dropsuit? |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.09.22 11:15:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Void weve veen throug several nerfs as tankers and still we held out and carried on holding the flag. Yes our tanks need a buff and with tankers like you anf I arroun who are happy to help the new tankers then tanking in dust will never die out . It will just remain as difficult and possibly vecome more elietist than it is just now. (That is not a good thin) but on the other hand if they make it too easy then tanks will be spammed lime the llavs were and a nerf would shortly follow. Its a good thing tanking isnt easy but its a bad tging if its too hard.
correct, just like the goldielocks story, it has to be just right, a good amount of difficulty to make people want to overcome it but not difficult to where nobody but us can handle it.. and it has to be easy but not so easy that any random scrub in their 1st match can go 90/2 in it, then tanking will become even more of a joke than it is now with the non-existent balance. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.09.22 20:48:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Horizon Limit wrote:straya fox wrote:shaman oga wrote:You can go 30/1 in every match, but that 1 is the problem, to be a tanker you have not to die for at least 4/5 match in order to make profit. The real problem is not KDR but Isk. That is the whole point of this thread Shaman, tankers pay ISK for KDR. I don't pay Isk for KDR (i'm shaman), i pay isk because i like to play with a vehicle (this alt, has sp invested only in vehicles, so i have no choice), KDR is a consequence of a tanker who tries to not go passive with ISK. I would really like to play as logi vehicle (i'm a logi with my infantry main), the problem is that i'm not rewarded if i do that. Another problem is that i don't have sp invested in dropsuit or weapons, not playing with a vehicle means a massacre for me, New players have better infantry equipment/dropsuits/weapons than me. Forgive me man, i did not mean to imply that tankers are paying large sums of ISK purely for KDR as opposed to paying for a game style that they enjoy. I am just trying to point out that tanks are destructive and dominating on the battlefield and ( in my opinion) are worth the high cost involved in running one. There needs to be some drawback to running these beasts and i think the high ISK cost is doing a pretty good job of it.
simple fix to the game itself, remove K/D from the stats and everyone is happy according to you, although only the call of duty fans would be effected by this because anyone with brains in this game can see that K/D doesn't get you anywhere.
none of care if K/D gets taken away or stays, we don't, but the cost of tanks is far too high for them to be efficient, they are not worth their isk cost at all.
those of us tankers that have SP in assault also gain profit from going as infantry most of the time, we get the isk to pay for tanks in about 6 games average. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.09.22 21:44:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Maybe they cost a lot because CCP doesnt want them being spammed in every single match? Its not much different than going from a STD suit to a PROTO dropsuit, price skyrockets so they're less sustainable but gain high efficiency. Going from proto suit to STD tank with proto mods is basically a massive upgrade. I highly doubt CCP intended tankers to literally live out their whole life inside a tank. A properly fit tank in a proper environment is devastating on ground infantry, add in infantry support and that AV guy wont last very long out in the open. Add in a second tank and you can cover each other's weak points/blind spots and trade who takes blows.
If they're gonna decrease the price of tanks, they should lower it's overall effectiveness to match that. If they increase it's tankability, then they should lower it's overall speed to match that.
no, the effectiveness of tanks now are not worth their cost. |
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