I don't hate the scouts - I feel sorry for them. I would hate to die in three shots - and they're only slightly faster than assaults.

Well i feel sorry for heavies sometimes...they're like giant cute beached whales...slowly dying and unable to avoid it or run no matter how hard they try...and wrong, you apparently dont know what kinetics are >: D

Also if you're a heavy all the time..I'm certain you know what a CRG shotgun is by now ya?

Kincats can be utilised by medium frames as well, you realise? And better, because they have more slots and fitting resources.
The base speed difference between a scout and a medium frame is small. If you're setting up a medium frame for speed, it can outrun most scouts whilst sprinting while tanking a lot better.

I don't play heavy, and the last time I was shotgunned was probably Chromosome, where they were actually decent.

Are you my long lost relative?

See i've thought about that and have done it on occassion...but, when i have a medium frame the last thing i wanna do is fill that with kinetics when i can just use more armor plating, and the scout suit is still faster overall if the 2-3 modules are fitted with kinetics...and i think the scouts also still have more stanima and the movement penalties are less harsh than trying to speed up a medium, you strike a good point, but i'd just rather let my scout be a scout, never try putting a race engine in a sedan yknow? but to each his own on that. more slots are great, but isnt always better.

And what you have something against shotguns to? what DO you use then? WHAT is cool with you? what do you like?

Filling your lows with kincats on a medium frame may well be the last thing you want to do, but it can easily allow a medium frame to outperform a scout at speed tanking, especially combined with a shield tank. It'll be faster and more tanky than a scout fitted similarly.

Much as I'd like to use scouts as scouts and medium frames as medium frames, that doesn't change what can be done with the slot layouts of the medium frames.


You continue to misunderstand me. I have nothing against scouts, nothing against shotguns. I simply believe that they're not as good as they should be.

I have the standard one. Put some SP there when it was OP but never liked it.
Now I tried it the other day because it looks pretty and stylish, but it didn't do any damage, no blast radius apparently. Probably would work on a guy standing still (hacking or operating an installation), but in that case i'd rather be sure with a headshot using any other weapon. I'm way more effective with direct hit, so I stick to my SMG or Scrambler Pistol. There are no trophies or weapon stats in Dust, so i don't see the point in trying to vary your guns when others are just not that helpful. I do it sometimes for fun only, but there's no point at all.

I agree with the nerf anyway, it was too much. The thing is that maybe the Flaylock was simply not a good idea of a sidearm. Looks nice and may work for some, but it's too circumstancial.

'Syndicate' FTW!!!

Its been awhile since i played, can you still 1-2 hit militia fits with the Core.


I never thought the gun was imbalanced, but more so it was the game itself as in "sheild vs armor".