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DeathwindRising
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Posted - 2013.09.22 16:16:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Xender17 wrote:I'll let you make no recall tanks at 50% HP when dropsuits can't change fits at 50% too. this, otherwise, double standard. Fine, lets us change our drop suits anywhere on the field without a supply depot Otherwise double standard
give us blue print tanks and i wont give a **** what happens.
they can take away recalling at that point and i wouldnt care |
DeathwindRising
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Posted - 2013.09.22 16:27:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:I hope before you do this ''vehicle rebalance'' you use your NUMBERS and stadistics for this purpose,and NOT do you balance based on feedback from the forums.
You must undestand that most good tankers are not here QQing all the time. As you can see, there is at least 1 Tank QQ thread per page all the way up to page 25.
we have tankers whining about AV nades,Swarms,Forge guns,(obviously , anything with the capacity to kill them) even some dude requesting for heavies not to be able to use LAV's. I mean LOL.
Use your numbers and stadistics , NOT FORUM FEEDBACK. The numbers you will see tell a different story these ''TANKERS'' tell here on the forums....Tanks DONT do bad,Tanks are NOT UP. TAnks ARE NOT WEAK. And PROTO TANKS are not needed. As it is , unless the map provides you with a VERY favorable AV position, in order to take a tank you need a LOT of firepower,luck and some teamwork, as it should be.....and its not uncommon for even with all this, to be unable to take down a tank...
Also, consider (if giving them a ''HP BUFF'') reducing the tanks speed. You know they are tanks not ferraris and the f***s already outrun the fastest of scouts,making it very difficult to get confirmed kills.
Also, if a tank is -+- HP, Recall SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION. With the speed tanks boost , hit an run tactics are very abusable. As it is a tanker can attack, get hit 2-3 times, run away, recall damaged tank, call in another one....
Thanks for your time, and tankers, dont even post here.I really dont care what you have to say, all you do is complain and QQ,but while playing you do very well. What you express here on the forums is NOT what i see that happens in the battlefield,and i know you know most of it is BS.''I got 3HKO by a Proto FG'', ''Proto AV nades 1HKO my tank'' ''Swarms shoot 18 missiles for 3000+ damage....''. Yeah,sure...K-D ratios of 4+ and loosing 1 tank every 5 games is NOT a tragedy....
You guys overreact, a LOT.... As a Heavy who has chased HAVs around and around maps, eventually running out of ammo for my Assault Forge, only to watch the tank speed away, I wholeheartedly approve this message. FG that chase tanks never do aswell as those who hold an area hostage, keeping the tank outskirted. It's never enough for them to keep the tank at bay, it always must be destroyed right now with minimal effort. You just don't get it. What do we get for "keeping a tank at bay"? Answer: Repeatedly killed by zerging infantry because we are outfitted with AV. There is no reward system for holding an HAV off. You tankers want to ROTFL stomp infantry, and you currently do. I'm so tired of seeing bad tankers on the forums crying. Boo hoo tanks are UP waaah wahhhhhhhhh. Tell me what sense does it make for a tank to be able to outrun swarms? Yes, you can, so don't even try to lie and say you can't! If I can get to within 20m of the back of your tank, hit you with 4 shots from a proto Assault FG Prof. 3, 2 Comp. Dmg. Mods, while another guy is hitting you with Proto Swarms With Compl Damage mods, and you are able to escape, regen, return, tanks are in absolutely no way UP. Cry Moar! GTFO! Get Good! HTFU!
i see plenty of assault forge gunners taking top ranks because they spam FG on infantry as well as tanks. FG themselves honestly need looking but thats another topic. curretly though... your simply doing everything wrong.
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DeathwindRising
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Posted - 2013.09.22 16:38:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:
No, I just don't camp on towers. If that makes me "the worst forge gunner" the so be it.
Seriously though, a good tanker knows how to use structures, and landscape to evade, and these are the instances I'm referring to.
I can always tell the difference between a good tanker, and a bad one. A good tanker begins evasion as soon as he is hit by my first FG shot. These guys are a pain in the ass to take out. It literally takes the effort of at least 2 - 3 guys to get him to go pop!
A bad tanker begins evasion after he gets hit with my 3rd FG shot, by then, it's too late, then you see him come to the forums crying about how UP tanks are. LMAO HTFU!
Even though I disagree, my respect for not camping towers. Yes, bad tankers don't retreat, Their fault. But something is wrong when I immediately activate my booster and retreat and still can't run away. With an Ishukone FG, proficiency and 2 damage mods you do more than 2000 damage every 2 seconds (I have an alt with FG), 4 clip size, more than enough to kill the best tanks in the game. If the forge gunner is on a tower, tell my where am I supposed to run? So then what? Buff tanks because bad players are bad? That statement is meant for both bad tankers, and bad Heavies. Tower Camping is completely ridiculous and boring, and breaks the balance of the game. If you buff tanks or nerf FG becasue of FG tower campers, then it would be nearly impossible for those of us on the ground to do anything to tanks. In the same way, if CCP nerfed tanks because of Redline railtank snipers, Shield tankers who actually go in and get their tracks muddy, would have absolutely no chance at survival. These guys only think about padding their stats, despite the negative effect they are having on the game. Then they want to chest pound claiming how good they are. They're bad, and should feel bad!
yea well in my thread i had suggested making it so that heavies cant operate vehicles. keeps them from flying up to towers on their own, and from driving into our redlines, or attacking us with llavs and the driving off when they realize theyre losing.
if everyone is honest, heavies being able to operate vehicles, create instances that can be abused and not countered.
i think heavies should only be allowed to be passengers, until we the speeders, at which point the speeders should be free and be able to be operated by any dropsuit class |
DeathwindRising
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Posted - 2013.09.22 16:48:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:
Aren't we all playing for WP? Isn't it a fact that the more WP you get, the larger your payout? So let me get this straight, you should be able to kill me 5 or 6 times in the process of me pushing you back. Then you retreat, rep, return for this to happen again and again throughout the match as you earn WP for killing me and my team, but I get **** for "pushing you back". Are you ******* ********?
in terms of isk, you can die 5 or 6 times and still turn a profit in the same match, and definitely by your second match.
if i die even once, itll be 5 or 6 whole matches before i break even. turning a profit with a tank only happens if you can survive enough matches to afford another tank. which for a 2.5 million isk tank... wont be for a while. |
DeathwindRising
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Posted - 2013.09.23 02:14:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:
Aren't we all playing for WP? Isn't it a fact that the more WP you get, the larger your payout? So let me get this straight, you should be able to kill me 5 or 6 times in the process of me pushing you back. Then you retreat, rep, return for this to happen again and again throughout the match as you earn WP for killing me and my team, but I get **** for "pushing you back". Are you ******* ********?
in terms of isk, you can die 5 or 6 times and still turn a profit in the same match, and definitely by your second match. So I can die 5 or six times in a 95k advance suit and still make profit? Wow you have some kinda math dude! What if I was in my Proto? then I'm lookin at 200k per. Your blaster doesn't really see the difference between me having 2 or 3 Comp. Plates, it drops my Proto suit nearly as fast as My standard or advanced.
except you dont need a proto suit to run a proto FG, camp on a tower, or drive a free lav or dropship. my miltia fit cost 400k isk the hull itself is 138k.
i dont care about your suit, its your gun that makes the difference. |
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