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godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:20:00 -
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Can we just have a p.c. battle with a our full 16 against a full 16 of another..This is getting really sad why this can't happen.It makes corps look bad regardless who wins and who loses.I won't point fingers,but it makes no damn sense hy people can't fight for there own battles. |
itsssssss meeeeeeeeeee
WE ARE LEGENDS
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:21:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Can we just have a p.c. battle with a our full 16 against a full 16 of another..This is getting really sad why this can't happen.It makes corps look bad regardless who wins and who loses.I won't point fingers,but it makes no damn sense hy people can't fight for there own battles. TeamPlayer butthurt? |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:25:00 -
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If We can pull 16.Why can't they? simple issue |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
424
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:31:00 -
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So would it be better if the players join the other corp before the battle so all the names match up nice and pretty on the scoreboard? then go back to their original corps after the 15 minute fight?
Or would you prefer if only a few people showed up on the other team and there was no competitive match?
This game is dead, be lucky there are still people willing to log in and play at all, regardless of what their silly tag says on the interwebs.
This is a pretty dumb post dude. |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:33:00 -
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Not really dude..Don't get me going about everything fuckin dumb you say.The point remains valid.field your own team,and stop being a bu nch of vagina's.The only thing that is dead is what the hell you say in everyone's posts. |
itsssssss meeeeeeeeeee
WE ARE LEGENDS
2
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:34:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Not really dude..Don't get me going about everything fuckin dumb you say.The point remains valid.field your own team,and stop being a bu nch of vagina's.The only thing that is dead is what the hell you say in everyone's posts. How old are you? |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
424
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:35:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Not really dude..Don't get me going about everything fuckin dumb you say.The point remains valid.field your own team,and stop being a bu nch of vagina's.The only thing that is dead is what the hell you say in everyone's posts.
What is the alternative then dimwit? No show? 1/2 a team? where is the fun in that?
I could understand complaining about ringers if the other corp boasts about beating you when they couldnt field a whole team. Ive griped about that with other corps before who run their mouth but couldnt beat my corps team and had to call for help. Different scenario.
Go ahead, get going about anything I say if it makes you feel better about starting another pointless QQ thread. |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:39:00 -
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You shoud be a teamplayer talking about qq lol idiot...The guys we fought don't have anyone anyway.They bought the districts,or they were givin to them.So what???They can sit there and farm it instead of play the game right?.What sense does it make to try ,and counter this post.It makes total sense.understand it.Except it and stop trying to look good in all the posts people make. |
Ripcord19981
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Public Disorder.
54
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:39:00 -
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yesterday, half of foxhound was ringers and 1 sqd was OH. I didnt complain. If Foxhound didnt have enough people id much rather fight them and ringers then 4 of em redline sniping. GG by the way. |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:43:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:yesterday, half of foxhound was ringers and 1 sqd was OH. I didnt complain. If Foxhound didnt have enough people id much rather fight them and ringers then 4 of em redline sniping. GG by the way.
If they are allianced I understand. |
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Ripcord19981
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Public Disorder.
54
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:44:00 -
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oh, then yea, its annoying |
Patrick57
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
297
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:47:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Can we just have a p.c. battle with a our full 16 against a full 16 of another..This is getting really sad why this can't happen.It makes corps look bad regardless who wins and who loses.I won't point fingers,but it makes no damn sense hy people can't fight for there own battles. Then what else are people supposed to do with their ISK? |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:55:00 -
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Very true |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
424
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:04:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Ripcord19981 wrote:yesterday, half of foxhound was ringers and 1 sqd was OH. I didnt complain. If Foxhound didnt have enough people id much rather fight them and ringers then 4 of em redline sniping. GG by the way. If they are allianced I understand.
If they are allianced? So people can only hire ringers in a mercenary game if they are in the same alliance. I will go back to my first statement, would you have not posted this stupid thread if the other players decided to join the host corp before the match? Then all of their pretty little alliance names would be the same.. would that make you a happy camper? See how silly this complaint is.
And what alliances are even left at this point? This game barely has any playerbase .. be thankful you have a PC match to log on for you dolt. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles
134
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:05:00 -
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Recognizes that this post will possibly put me out of business and does not approve. |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:09:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Recognizes that this post will possibly put me out of business and does not approve.
eh. whatcha gunna do right lol |
Timbo101
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
45
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:21:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Recognizes that this post will possibly put me out of business and does not approve. eh. whatcha gunna do right lol
This isn't an attack on you guys but aren't you a mercenary corporation? So shouldn't you like the fact that people are hiring people? |
jimmybroon brown
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
21
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:26:00 -
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Yh we should have certain matches where it can only be own corp members, thats a good idea. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles
135
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:31:00 -
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Timbo101 wrote:godhands9 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Recognizes that this post will possibly put me out of business and does not approve. eh. whatcha gunna do right lol This isn't an attack on you guys but aren't you a mercenary corporation? So shouldn't you like the fact that people are hiring people?
psh i love coming on and getting seven different corps asking me to ring for them, it makes me feel special and it stacks my wallet |
Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
200
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:57:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Can we just have a p.c. battle with a our full 16 against a full 16 of another..This is getting really sad why this can't happen.It makes corps look bad regardless who wins and who loses.I won't point fingers,but it makes no damn sense hy people can't fight for there own battles.
Because most groups can't fight it out with their own players. I only have respect for those corporations who use their full corp members. I still have respect for those corporations who use at least 90% of their corp members with some alliance members, as I know some of your own members can disconnect or just not show up sometimes for what ever reason.
I completely disrespect corps that have less than 50% of their actual corporation in the battle, to attack or defend. You make this game a joke. |
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STABBEY
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
457
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Posted - 2013.09.22 00:48:00 -
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I think what OP is getting at here is...
We attack different corps to have a variety of fights (We arent on PFC) not to take there district..
That being said, it gets old when every time you attack som1 the same damn people show up every time and its not the people from the corp you actually wanted to fight.
It has made PC and the game in general VERY f*cking Dull and VERY boring.
I honestly am fed up with the BS in this game and I personally dont want anything to do with fights in PC anymore, the fun and thrill of the fight is just GONE.
I think at this point groups of friends are trying to agree on which other game they want to move to together considering certain players have completely ruined the fun competitive aspect of this game.
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godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.22 02:34:00 -
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Timbo101 wrote:godhands9 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Recognizes that this post will possibly put me out of business and does not approve. eh. whatcha gunna do right lol This isn't an attack on you guys but aren't you a mercenary corporation? So shouldn't you like the fact that people are hiring people?
No..We tried to do merc work..Waste of time..We are doing alot of p.c. here and there.
I tried to get people to hire us if needed,but people were just **** talking about it.So We never got far with that idea. |
Arunis Gen
G I A N T EoN.
49
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Posted - 2013.09.22 03:09:00 -
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Why? Because this game sucks. People steal dudes. Inactivity. People don't care for the game. My corp has never, except for the first day of the FEC/EoN. war, been able to field a full team.
Don't like it? Deal with it. We'll bring in anyone we damn well please if we cannot get people on. Be it from alliance or local. |
Twisted202
Ancient Exiles
364
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Posted - 2013.09.22 03:15:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Can we just have a p.c. battle with a our full 16 against a full 16 of another..This is getting really sad why this can't happen.It makes corps look bad regardless who wins and who loses.I won't point fingers,but it makes no damn sense hy people can't fight for there own battles.
Yano ccp did make it so you can do that for a reason. It's a main functionality of PC... MERCENARIES |
1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
119
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Posted - 2013.09.22 05:52:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:yesterday, half of foxhound was ringers and 1 sqd was OH. I didnt complain. If Foxhound didnt have enough people id much rather fight them and ringers then 4 of em redline sniping. GG by the way.
GG Rip you guys rocked us, and i'm gonna get you next time I promise :D
I had a PC match where we could only field 13 players but then 1 DCed and it looked grim for a while, but we came back and actually won it. It was a great game in my books |
1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
119
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Posted - 2013.09.22 05:53:00 -
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Arunis Gen wrote:Why? Because this game sucks. People steal dudes. Inactivity. People don't care for the game. My corp has never, except for the first day of the FEC/EoN. war, been able to field a full team.
Don't like it? Deal with it. We'll bring in anyone we damn well please if we cannot get people on. Be it from alliance or local.
Actually it was against you guys, GG btw man those were great games. Pubs are rarely that exciting. |
STABBEY
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
457
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Posted - 2013.09.22 07:12:00 -
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Arunis Gen wrote:Why? Because this game sucks. People steal dudes. Inactivity. People don't care for the game. My corp has never, except for the first day of the FEC/EoN. war, been able to field a full team.
Don't like it? Deal with it. We'll bring in anyone we damn well please if we cannot get people on. Be it from alliance or local.
How did that work out for you tonight?
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TheSprayNPray2
Red Star. EoN.
219
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Posted - 2013.09.22 08:31:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Can we just have a p.c. battle with a our full 16 against a full 16 of another..This is getting really sad why this can't happen.It makes corps look bad regardless who wins and who loses.I won't point fingers,but it makes no damn sense hy people can't fight for there own battles.
Corp name has the word "mercenaries" in it complain about ringers being hired to fight. |
Starfire Revo
G I A N T EoN.
122
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Posted - 2013.09.22 12:03:00 -
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TheSprayNPray2 wrote:Corp name has the word "mercenaries" in it complain about ringers being hired to fight.
According to what some BPM members told me, they're a bunch of ex-War Ravens that were tired of being benched over ringers. It makes sense that they would want to do the whole full corp vs full corp spiel.
From my own stand point, summer is over and people are playing other games. Planetary Conquest has a bunch of design flaws that result in a large number of problems. It's undesirable to play on aside from the fact that it's the only way to get a 16v16 with a full team of friends. If faction warfare had a full team queue (with some benefits), PC would become a wasteland as people would just go play that instead.
There's some new tournaments coming in the near future, so I guess you'll have better luck finding what you're looking for there. |
MoonEagle A
ShootBreakStab
35
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Posted - 2013.09.22 15:21:00 -
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My corp did our first PC battle yesterday. We are a very small corp but managed to have 10 SBS show up. We used our very good friends from Subsonic to fill the rest. It seems Dead Six Initiative did the same. It was the only way to be able to play PC. At least we used all our guys who showed up. |
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STABBEY
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
459
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Posted - 2013.09.22 16:49:00 -
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Starfire Revo wrote:TheSprayNPray2 wrote:Corp name has the word "mercenaries" in it complain about ringers being hired to fight. According to what some BPM members told me, they're a bunch of ex-War Ravens that were tired of being benched over ringers. It makes sense that they would want to do the whole full corp vs full corp spiel. From my own stand point, summer is over and people are playing other games. Planetary Conquest has a bunch of design flaws that result in a large number of problems. It's undesirable to play on aside from the fact that it's the only way to get a 16v16 with a full team of friends. If faction warfare had a full team queue (with some benefits), PC would become a wasteland as people would just go play that instead. There's some new tournaments coming in the near future, so I guess you'll have better luck finding what you're looking for there.
BPM was Warravens a team, not sure who you have been talking to. Thats funny tho.
I hate using ringers personally, I have friends everywere I never have to pay for anything.
BUT I would rather have a full team of BPM we do way better when we have our a team then we do when we bring in ringers.
We have half American half Euro players so getting together on a good fight time tends to be a pain in the arse |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
502
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Posted - 2013.09.22 19:51:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Can we just have a p.c. battle with a our full 16 against a full 16 of another..This is getting really sad why this can't happen.It makes corps look bad regardless who wins and who loses.I won't point fingers,but it makes no damn sense hy people can't fight for there own battles.
No. This ^ is annoying. There are a multiple reasons why people bring out ringers :I. A lot of reasons have to due with needing people to come in, others are about having an advantage. Whether they're good or bad applies for the independent situation, not collectively. You sound arrogant because apparently you can field players all of the time in a battle regardless of uncontrolled factors such as disconnects, work, family issues, and other things. Not just that, but there's a market for ringers that's severely undeveloped due to this small ass Moldy Heap being overpopulated. If we all just make ringing a morally wrong concept in Dust 514, it'll hurt the game later when they have more work. Do you really want to cut short Dust 514's economic development? |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
192
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Posted - 2013.09.22 20:28:00 -
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having ringers is a key connection to PC
we are mercs, we get paid, we fight for people
if u have connections u take control of the universe (look at EON)
I know most people we fight r just fronts for other corps but if u cant field 16+ people u don't deserve a district other times u just need help from better players |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
502
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Posted - 2013.09.22 21:23:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:having ringers is a key connection to PC
we are mercs, we get paid, we fight for people
if u have connections u take control of the universe (look at EON)
I know most people we fight r just fronts for other corps but if u cant field 16+ people u don't deserve a district other times u just need help from better players
I still don't agree with the "you don't deserve it if you can't field 16+ people" because land owners who own corporations with only a few players in administration, can keep the money mostly for themselves and hire others to fill up their battles.
Silly? To you but it could be a way to make money without having to stress about the usual things corporations stress about.
Example:
Gaia Development makes 70,000,000 ISK a week if there's no interruptions. Without having to spend some of it on their employees to restock their equipment, the four directors and CEO are paid well extremely well. When they come under attack they will go out and hire mercenaries to fight their battles for them and they can pay well consistently, having to spend only 19,200,000 or less for a full squad(going off of a 1.2 Mil per person payment win/lose and the addition of Gaia Development's squad leaders). Unless they're losing a majority of their fights, they would still make a massive amount of ISK that they can spend on themselves from both clones and the ISK gained from battles that they won. It depends on the ringers winning but of course they would pay for the best because they're highly dependent on them for both winning and acting as a deterrent.
But yeah not having a full team in your squad shouldn't be a limit.
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Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
811
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Posted - 2013.09.22 21:52:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:godhands9 wrote:Ripcord19981 wrote:yesterday, half of foxhound was ringers and 1 sqd was OH. I didnt complain. If Foxhound didnt have enough people id much rather fight them and ringers then 4 of em redline sniping. GG by the way. If they are allianced I understand. If they are allianced? So people can only hire ringers in a mercenary game if they are in the same alliance. I will go back to my first statement, would you have not posted this stupid thread if the other players decided to join the host corp before the match? Then all of their pretty little alliance names would be the same.. would that make you a happy camper? See how silly this complaint is. And what alliances are even left at this point? This game barely has any playerbase .. be thankful you have a PC match to log on for you dolt.
Nice to see you've finally come around and noticed whats going on with the game actually dont mind reading your posts now :P. Still wont get any likes thou :) |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
502
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Posted - 2013.09.22 23:51:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:yesterday, half of foxhound was ringers and 1 sqd was OH. I didnt complain. If Foxhound didnt have enough people id much rather fight them and ringers then 4 of em redline sniping. GG by the way.
o-o Thanks and GG to you to, and yeah we didn't have enough. It's funny. We started with the idea of using ringers while having our newer players get ready but once we started to push for as many Foxhounds as we can get in a battle, those players who cried about not being able to participate stopped being active. We have a strong team of active players but it's only about 14-15 instead of an actual 16(this is only including those who are in our official squads). |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
428
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:11:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:godhands9 wrote:Ripcord19981 wrote:yesterday, half of foxhound was ringers and 1 sqd was OH. I didnt complain. If Foxhound didnt have enough people id much rather fight them and ringers then 4 of em redline sniping. GG by the way. If they are allianced I understand. If they are allianced? So people can only hire ringers in a mercenary game if they are in the same alliance. I will go back to my first statement, would you have not posted this stupid thread if the other players decided to join the host corp before the match? Then all of their pretty little alliance names would be the same.. would that make you a happy camper? See how silly this complaint is. And what alliances are even left at this point? This game barely has any playerbase .. be thankful you have a PC match to log on for you dolt. Nice to see you've finally come around and noticed whats going on with the game actually dont mind reading your posts now :P. Still wont get any likes thou :)
Ive always understood the game and why people call in ringers...Just to clarify my past posts on the subject were directed at a specific corp boasting about beating another corp when in fact they could not, were getting beat, and had to call for help from other corps to get the job done the next day.
Even you should be able to comprehend the difference between making a generalized post complaining about ringers (see OP) versus what I have griped about in the past regarding the subject.
Your response is boring, lets go back to trolling please I need some entertainment today, work is gonna be slow. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
816
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:18:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:godhands9 wrote:Ripcord19981 wrote:yesterday, half of foxhound was ringers and 1 sqd was OH. I didnt complain. If Foxhound didnt have enough people id much rather fight them and ringers then 4 of em redline sniping. GG by the way. If they are allianced I understand. If they are allianced? So people can only hire ringers in a mercenary game if they are in the same alliance. I will go back to my first statement, would you have not posted this stupid thread if the other players decided to join the host corp before the match? Then all of their pretty little alliance names would be the same.. would that make you a happy camper? See how silly this complaint is. And what alliances are even left at this point? This game barely has any playerbase .. be thankful you have a PC match to log on for you dolt. Nice to see you've finally come around and noticed whats going on with the game actually dont mind reading your posts now :P. Still wont get any likes thou :) Ive always understood the game and why people call in ringers...Just to clarify my past posts on the subject were directed at a specific corp boasting about beating another corp when in fact they could not, were getting beat, and had to call for help from other corps to get the job done the next day. Even you should be able to comprehend the difference between making a generalized post complaining about ringers (see OP) versus what I have griped about in the past regarding the subject. Your response is boring, lets go back to trolling please I need some entertainment today, work is gonna be slow.
Meh dont care enough to troll anymore.. forums are boring too. I guess its the 3k playerbase heh. |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:24:00 -
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STABBEY wrote:Arunis Gen wrote:Why? Because this game sucks. People steal dudes. Inactivity. People don't care for the game. My corp has never, except for the first day of the FEC/EoN. war, been able to field a full team.
Don't like it? Deal with it. We'll bring in anyone we damn well please if we cannot get people on. Be it from alliance or local. How did that work out for you tonight?
lol
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godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:27:00 -
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I'm just saying it would be nice to fight the corp your trying to fight..Not see 6-8 giant and the rest nyain san lol..We didnt want to fight nyain san we wanted to fight giant players. This post was not even generally about giant pullng in every other guy we didnt want to see lol.I understand the way the game is.Still doesn't make sense (weak teams) cant pull there own.Very sad indeed. |
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Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
824
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:30:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:I'm just saying it would be nice to fight the corp your trying to fight..Not see 6-8 giant and the rest nyain san lol..We didnt want to fight nyain san we wanted to fight giant players. This post was not even generally about giant pullng in every other guy we didnt want to see lol.I understand the way the game is.Still doesn't make sense (weak teams) cant pull there own.Very sad indeed.
Thats kinda what alliances are for though, whenever SyN is short we go to alliance channel to get help. It's near impossible for corps to field a full 16 of their own cause the game is such shitt and no one plays. |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:30:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:godhands9 wrote:Can we just have a p.c. battle with a our full 16 against a full 16 of another..This is getting really sad why this can't happen.It makes corps look bad regardless who wins and who loses.I won't point fingers,but it makes no damn sense hy people can't fight for there own battles. No. This ^ is annoying. There are a multiple reasons why people bring out ringers :I. A lot of reasons have to due with needing people to come in, others are about having an advantage. Whether they're good or bad applies for the independent situation, not collectively. You sound arrogant because apparently you can field players all of the time in a battle regardless of uncontrolled factors such as disconnects, work, family issues, and other things. Not just that, but there's a market for ringers that's severely undeveloped due to this small ass Moldy Heap being overpopulated. If we all just make ringing a morally wrong concept in Dust 514, it'll hurt the game later when they have more work. Do you really want to cut short Dust 514's economic development?
Still doesn't cover for the fact that the corps don't want to lose,but end up losing anyway cause of not having there own 16...Still makes people that are hiding the facts that they themselves suck lol |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
63
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:36:00 -
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Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:godhands9 wrote:I'm just saying it would be nice to fight the corp your trying to fight..Not see 6-8 giant and the rest nyain san lol..We didnt want to fight nyain san we wanted to fight giant players. This post was not even generally about giant pullng in every other guy we didnt want to see lol.I understand the way the game is.Still doesn't make sense (weak teams) cant pull there own.Very sad indeed. Thats kinda what alliances are for though, whenever SyN is short we go to alliance channel to get help. It's near impossible for corps to field a full 16 of their own cause the game is such shitt and no one plays.
agreed to an extent.I mean our corp plays this game for the fun of it .Not to slap **** on forums unless it's deserved to be on here.All n all we like going against full groups of the same enemy lol.Just not interesting to us to fight ghosts of war.We will then look for a corp that can field there own.At least from what I know molon labe can field ther own and those are really fun matches full of skilled players. (tips hat to ya*) |
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