According to what some BPM members told me, they're a bunch of ex-War Ravens that were tired of being benched over ringers. It makes sense that they would want to do the whole full corp vs full corp spiel.

From my own stand point, summer is over and people are playing other games. Planetary Conquest has a bunch of design flaws that result in a large number of problems. It's undesirable to play on aside from the fact that it's the only way to get a 16v16 with a full team of friends. If faction warfare had a full team queue (with some benefits), PC would become a wasteland as people would just go play that instead.

There's some new tournaments coming in the near future, so I guess you'll have better luck finding what you're looking for there.

Can we just have a p.c. battle with a our full 16 against a full 16 of another..This is getting really sad why this can't happen.It makes corps look bad regardless who wins and who loses.I won't point fingers,but it makes no damn sense hy people can't fight for there own battles.

having ringers is a key connection to PC

we are mercs, we get paid, we fight for people

if u have connections u take control of the universe (look at EON)

I know most people we fight r just fronts for other corps but if u cant field 16+ people u don't deserve a district other times u just need help from better players

If they are allianced? So people can only hire ringers in a mercenary game if they are in the same alliance. I will go back to my first statement, would you have not posted this stupid thread if the other players decided to join the host corp before the match? Then all of their pretty little alliance names would be the same.. would that make you a happy camper? See how silly this complaint is.

And what alliances are even left at this point? This game barely has any playerbase .. be thankful you have a PC match to log on for you dolt.

yesterday, half of foxhound was ringers and 1 sqd was OH. I didnt complain. If Foxhound didnt have enough people id much rather fight them and ringers then 4 of em redline sniping. GG by the way.

Nice to see you've finally come around and noticed whats going on with the game actually dont mind reading your posts now :P. Still wont get any likes thou :)

Ive always understood the game and why people call in ringers...Just to clarify my past posts on the subject were directed at a specific corp boasting about beating another corp when in fact they could not, were getting beat, and had to call for help from other corps to get the job done the next day.

Even you should be able to comprehend the difference between making a generalized post complaining about ringers (see OP) versus what I have griped about in the past regarding the subject.

Your response is boring, lets go back to trolling please I need some entertainment today, work is gonna be slow.

How did that work out for you tonight?

I'm just saying it would be nice to fight the corp your trying to fight..Not see 6-8 giant and the rest nyain san lol..We didnt want to fight nyain san we wanted to fight giant players. This post was not even generally about giant pullng in every other guy we didnt want to see lol.I understand the way the game is.Still doesn't make sense (weak teams) cant pull there own.Very sad indeed.

No. This ^ is annoying. There are a multiple reasons why people bring out ringers :I. A lot of reasons have to due with needing people to come in, others are about having an advantage. Whether they're good or bad applies for the independent situation, not collectively. You sound arrogant because apparently you can field players all of the time in a battle regardless of uncontrolled factors such as disconnects, work, family issues, and other things. Not just that, but there's a market for ringers that's severely undeveloped due to this small ass Moldy Heap being overpopulated. If we all just make ringing a morally wrong concept in Dust 514, it'll hurt the game later when they have more work. Do you really want to cut short Dust 514's economic development?

Thats kinda what alliances are for though, whenever SyN is short we go to alliance channel to get help. It's near impossible for corps to field a full 16 of their own cause the game is such shitt and no one plays.