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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2540
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:48:00 -
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Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses. |
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Alldin Kan
TeamPlayers EoN.
619
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:49:00 -
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Ok. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3055
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:53:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses.
Any discussion on reimbursement for those of us afflicted? A lot of the guys from ANONYMOUS weren't able to get on last night as a result (I still haven't been able to get in-game to verify this or not) I think we lost a PC match.
At the very least we need to be able to get our first daily win bonus xD
<---- Still has yet to successfully log in. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2540
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:56:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses. Any discussion on reimbursement for those of us afflicted? A lot of the guys from ANONYMOUS weren't able to get on last night as a result (I still haven't been able to get in-game to verify this or not) I think we lost a PC match. At the very least we need to be able to get our first daily win bonus xD <---- Still has yet to successfully log in.
If you havn't already, send in a petition for the PC battle. |
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CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
304
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:09:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses. Any discussion on reimbursement for those of us afflicted? A lot of the guys from ANONYMOUS weren't able to get on last night as a result (I still haven't been able to get in-game to verify this or not) I think we lost a PC match. At the very least we need to be able to get our first daily win bonus xD <---- Still has yet to successfully log in.
We won that PC battle just.... Half way through the game onwards I was literally chugging frames at like 2 or 3 frames per second, it was unplayable. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2542
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:13:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses. Any discussion on reimbursement for those of us afflicted? A lot of the guys from ANONYMOUS weren't able to get on last night as a result (I still haven't been able to get in-game to verify this or not) I think we lost a PC match. At the very least we need to be able to get our first daily win bonus xD <---- Still has yet to successfully log in. We won that PC battle just.... Half way through the game onwards I was literally chugging frames at like 2 or 3 frames per second, it was unplayable.
Ah framerate is a different issue, we have a team investigating the regression in FPS particularly in PC battles since the 1.4 release. That is unlikely to be fixed until we patch the client again though. This internal error we are seeing today should be fixed shortly. |
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Nick Ultramarine
The Phalanx Inc
0
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:23:00 -
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Hey Guys the Problem with the internal error still exists.... even the people in the channels are not visible |
Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
159
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:24:00 -
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Odd thing. these "disconnects" seem to be lagging my PS3 harder than usual.
That is to say, when the menu pops up... you'd think my box would be mostly idle? But it's on it so hard, it wont respond to the 'X' to dismiss window sometimes, and when I try to use my PS3 button to quit game... even THAT lags! Both coming up fully, and the response to do things like change the system dialog from "No" to "Yes".
That almost shouldnt be possible. |
bigaborh
LATINOS KILLERS CORP Amenaza Inminente
0
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:27:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Odd thing. these "disconnects" seem to be lagging my PS3 harder than usual.
That is to say, when the menu pops up... you'd think my box would be mostly idle? But it's on it so hard, it wont respond to the 'X' to dismiss window sometimes, and when I try to use my PS3 button to quit game... even THAT lags! Both coming up fully, and the response to do things like change the system dialog from "No" to "Yes".
That almost shouldnt be possible.
me too, this problem make slow my ps3! solve it now! |
general drake55
Eve Defense Force
2
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:29:00 -
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darn,i thought about posting this problem on the forums,but apparently ccp is already aware of it. |
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Nick Ultramarine
The Phalanx Inc
0
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:29:00 -
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bigaborh wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:Odd thing. these "disconnects" seem to be lagging my PS3 harder than usual.
That is to say, when the menu pops up... you'd think my box would be mostly idle? But it's on it so hard, it wont respond to the 'X' to dismiss window sometimes, and when I try to use my PS3 button to quit game... even THAT lags! Both coming up fully, and the response to do things like change the system dialog from "No" to "Yes".
That almost shouldnt be possible. me too, this problem make slow my ps3! solve it now!
Same problem here Guys... |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
702
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:33:00 -
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Not sure if it's related, but the one time I was able to connect successfully (after today's downtime), when I tried to search for a battle, there were no options on the left-hand side of the screen (no public contract, FW, other contracts, etc), and every circle on the right was bright yellow. |
general drake55
Eve Defense Force
2
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:35:00 -
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bigaborh wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:Odd thing. these "disconnects" seem to be lagging my PS3 harder than usual.
That is to say, when the menu pops up... you'd think my box would be mostly idle? But it's on it so hard, it wont respond to the 'X' to dismiss window sometimes, and when I try to use my PS3 button to quit game... even THAT lags! Both coming up fully, and the response to do things like change the system dialog from "No" to "Yes".
That almost shouldnt be possible. me too, this problem make slow my ps3! solve it now! sometimes it causes my ps3 stpo responding too,the worse thing is that it causes my controller to disconnect and it won't reconnect unless i restart the ps3 system.anyone else having this issue.
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Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
348
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:36:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Odd thing. these "disconnects" seem to be lagging my PS3 harder than usual.
That is to say, when the menu pops up... you'd think my box would be mostly idle? But it's on it so hard, it wont respond to the 'X' to dismiss window sometimes, and when I try to use my PS3 button to quit game... even THAT lags! Both coming up fully, and the response to do things like change the system dialog from "No" to "Yes".
That almost shouldnt be possible.
Experiencing this as well. Reset my system (off/on) and was able to log in. Was also able to get into a match.
-bazookah |
Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
159
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:37:00 -
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The one time I got in battle, I got to an objective, held down the hack button.... and nothing happened. Tried a few times. tried holding it for 10 seconds.
This wasnt a problem where I wasnt actually at the objective.... a red came along and killed me there, while I was fruitlessly attempting to hack.
Note to other forum posters: guys, dont just post "me too" or other useless stuff to this thread. Lets keep it useful? only post NEW information.
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RKKR
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
409
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:39:00 -
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What's up with people disconnecting at the end of each battle, is this related? |
general drake55
Eve Defense Force
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:40:00 -
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RKKR wrote:What's up with people disconnecting at the end of each battle, is this related? i guess, |
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
2
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:41:00 -
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It's funny that I can actually login, the problems arise after that, because there are no Corp members, I cannot write in any chat and the SP chart is bugged. But I got my Daily SP bonus. :D |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
304
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:46:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses. Any discussion on reimbursement for those of us afflicted? A lot of the guys from ANONYMOUS weren't able to get on last night as a result (I still haven't been able to get in-game to verify this or not) I think we lost a PC match. At the very least we need to be able to get our first daily win bonus xD <---- Still has yet to successfully log in. We won that PC battle just.... Half way through the game onwards I was literally chugging frames at like 2 or 3 frames per second, it was unplayable. Ah framerate is a different issue, we have a team investigating the regression in FPS particularly in PC battles since the 1.4 release. That is unlikely to be fixed until we patch the client again though. This internal error we are seeing today should be fixed shortly.
I wonder if its a combination of a few things. Its good to hear you guys are looking into it.
I think its a mix of the uplinks and nanohive spam, as well as because as the match goes on in PC - more and more people die, is the server not calculating what modules are lost and such for the end of game loot? Could that be an issue?
Also I just wanted to say I was sure you guys were making progress with PC battles, the last PC battle I was in before this was in 1.3. While it was not a totally smooth experience it was at least playable and the fps didn't drop no where near as much as it did last night. |
Troy Wiegert
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:04:00 -
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It's not fixed, wasted 3 hours trying to log on between Friday night and now Saturday morning. It's still disconnecting you, and it was before and after downtime. I know some couldn't even log on all day, or after every batlle would get disconnected. Please work on this, my active booster is just going to waste. |
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The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
43
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:07:00 -
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I have not been able to play since yesterday 9-20-13 |
Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:10:00 -
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Fired up the game about an hour ago: 1. Log in and select my second alt. Receive the internal error message. 2. Try again. This time I'm able to get my SP bonus. 3. Log in with my first alt. Internal error. 4. Try again. SP bonus. 5. Log in and select my main. Never even make it to the loading screen- stuck on the "processing" circle. 6. Quit game. 7. Start Dust again and log in with my main. 8. SP bonus...BUT my character skill screen messes up and simply displays dropsuit command skills for everything. 9. I go to battle finder. Nothing shows up on the screen. Try to back out, but nothing happens. Game isn't responding. Holding down the PS button brings up the quick option screen (quit game, turn off controller, etc.) but I'm not able to actually select anything. Shut the PS3 down. 10. Log on to the forums to complain about my experience.
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general drake55
Eve Defense Force
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:10:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses. Any discussion on reimbursement for those of us afflicted? A lot of the guys from ANONYMOUS weren't able to get on last night as a result (I still haven't been able to get in-game to verify this or not) I think we lost a PC match. At the very least we need to be able to get our first daily win bonus xD <---- Still has yet to successfully log in. We won that PC battle just.... Half way through the game onwards I was literally chugging frames at like 2 or 3 frames per second, it was unplayable. Ah framerate is a different issue, we have a team investigating the regression in FPS particularly in PC battles since the 1.4 release. That is unlikely to be fixed until we patch the client again though. This internal error we are seeing today should be fixed shortly. I wonder if its a combination of a few things. Its good to hear you guys are looking into it. I think its a mix of the uplinks and nanohive spam, as well as because as the match goes on in PC - more and more people die, is the server not calculating what modules are lost and such for the end of game loot? Could that be an issue? Also I just wanted to say I was sure you guys were making progress with PC battles, the last PC battle I was in before this was in 1.3. While it was not a totally smooth experience it was at least playable and the fps didn't drop no where near as much as it did last night. it coul be a missing database file and dll file that's causing these problems on the server for the ip/dns servers,i had an issue with my computer,s networing systems where the OS was missing them,and kept dropping connections to the network for my router.
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general drake55
Eve Defense Force
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:13:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Fired up the game about an hour ago: 1. Log in and select my second alt. Receive the internal error message. 2. Try again. This time I'm able to get my SP bonus. 3. Log in with my first alt. Internal error. 4. Try again. SP bonus. 5. Log in and select my main. Never even make it to the loading screen- stuck on the "processing" circle. 6. Quit game. 7. Start Dust again and log in with my main. 8. SP bonus...BUT my character skill screen messes up and simply displays dropsuit command skills for everything. 9. I go to battle finder. Nothing shows up on the screen. Try to back out, but nothing happens. Game isn't responding. Holding down the PS button brings up the quick option screen (quit game, turn off controller, etc.) but I'm not able to actually select anything. Shut the PS3 down. 10. Log on to the forums to complain about my experience.
about your controller,did it disconnect after it froze?also havig same problem btw.
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mr GATTIC beowolf
Red River Exchange
0
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:13:00 -
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Troy Wiegert wrote:It's not fixed, wasted 3 hours trying to log on between Friday night and now Saturday morning. It's still disconnecting you, and it was before and after downtime. I know some couldn't even log on all day, or after every batlle would get disconnected. Please work on this, my active booster is just going to waste.
Will people be reimbursed for all these hours lost on their active boosters? I know I sure want them back considering I can't get on to use them when I have time to do so.
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Troy Wiegert
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:18:00 -
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Disconnects at different times, sometimes at character selection, sometimes as soon as your in your quarters. Sometimes it gives you hope and I actually got to the battle finder screen only to see "You have been disconnected because of an internal error. Please contact [email protected] if you are unable to reconnect." Well I did that, and the response was a link to this forum post and they are looking into it, great response. |
Troy Wiegert
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:21:00 -
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Will people be reimbursed for all these hours lost on their active boosters? I know I sure want them back considering I can't get on to use them when I have time to do so.
Probably not, read the EULA, I'm sure in the small print there is something about not responsible for stuff like this. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
788
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:22:00 -
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I wish I could earn SP that way. |
lithkul devant
Legions of Infinite Dominion
71
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:30:00 -
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The internal error is getting worse, I used to just get cut from the game, now the game is crashing my PS3 and refusing to close out. Please fix this I would like to get to play sometime this weekend, I tried yesterday and I really couldn't get and stay in a match, which was better then sat and especially today. |
Troy Wiegert
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:33:00 -
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Playstation 3 ... $250 Bluetooth headset ... $30 2nd Controller ... $50 Elite Pack ... $100 Wasting time and active booster ... Priceless!!!!!! |
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Eworomir Cappadocian
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder.
9
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:35:00 -
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I have been having the same problem... To get in a PC last night was crazy. i had to reset my PS3 15 times or so just to make a squad operational for PC. Iven tow we won the battle, cus we were 10 mercs against 2 of them ..... go figure ( conection problems )---- Think im going to quit playing the game ... Redownloaded the game for 5 times now since Beta. Got some Packs total 80Gé¼ ... more then a normal game price. wich doesnt guive you half the problems this game does... Players fused with turrets\ invisible players\ terrible lag in battle ( I mean for a fps this lag is insane ) \ players geting shot behind cover \ unload a full clip on a player and not iven a scratch on his shield ... bah!!! And the main reason, ... becouse all this constant freezes, resets and hard resets.... just arent guiving any health to my PS3 ... witch for me wasnt cheap. |
general drake55
Eve Defense Force
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:37:00 -
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Troy Wiegert wrote:Playstation 3 ... $250 Bluetooth headset ... $30 2nd Controller ... $50 Elite Pack ... $100 Wasting time and active booster ... Priceless!!!!!! you must really be having a bad day to post that,no hard feeling btw,as for me it wont let me log on.
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Troy Wiegert
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
4
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:44:00 -
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general drake55 wrote:Troy Wiegert wrote:Playstation 3 ... $250 Bluetooth headset ... $30 2nd Controller ... $50 Elite Pack ... $100 Wasting time and active booster ... Priceless!!!!!! you must really be having a bad day to post that,no hard feeling btw,as for me it wont let me log on.
I didn't just buy all of that recently for this game, lol. No offense taken. I am in college and my playing time and active boosters are important though, I am limited to when I can play. So when I can't, yes I am having a bad day. This is how I choose to spend my free time to get away from reading and homework. I just hope it gets fixed soon. I have to study tonight, :( |
Peanut Butter Toast
Hell's Gate Inc
0
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:47:00 -
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Been unable to log in since last night. Update please. |
The Lion ElJonson
1st legion The Dark Angels
15
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:54:00 -
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My entire Corp can't log in, blank skill screen blank battle finder. I have 80 members ready to leave dust for good. Please don't mess with the servers at the weekend again. Your killing off your own game here. I really love were this we lead up to when dust and eve are completely matched but it's how your leading upto it that's the problem. Fix this |
The Lion ElJonson
1st legion The Dark Angels
15
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:00:00 -
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Don't you think you should give everyone free aur for this? It might stop civil unrest |
dazlb72
HELGHAN EXILES
69
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:08:00 -
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The Lion ElJonson wrote:Don't you think you should give everyone free aur for this? It might stop civil unrest
lol. you got more chance of the hole in your butt healing up |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
607
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:17:00 -
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The issue should be sorted now as mentioned here by CCP Logibro.
Any further issue please post in the above thread (so we can keep a track of any further issue).
Thanks |
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Ambiuris Zinum
EL Azteca Empire Amenaza Inminente
27
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:41:00 -
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Can't get passed Item Redemption. 10/10 |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles
3635
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:49:00 -
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what about the tournament last night ( FRIDAY) can they be rescheduled? |
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Frontline Medic
WarRavens League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:03:00 -
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seems fixxed for me,thanks CCP,Yah did good. |
Eworomir Cappadocian
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder.
9
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:17:00 -
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Frontline Medic wrote:seems fixxed for me,thanks CCP,Yah did good. lol |
Gizanimo elderer
Ivory Vanguard
1
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:46:00 -
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had all kinds of weird things going on. ne game I absolutely could not make my guy run. another time, my weapon would not fire, had rounds charged but would not shoot until I died and started re-spawned. Same with the run thing. PS# yup hard freezes ups, horrible lag, controller disconnects... I suffered the same here. Fortunately, no big losses to complaint about. ( unless my passive is not working) |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
511
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:51:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:The issue should be sorted now as mentioned here by CCP Logibro. Any further issue please post in the above thread (so we can keep a track of any further issue). Thanks
"404 Page Not Found" on that link to CCP Logibro. Funny because you were the one to send me that generic robomessage this morning. Can we get an ETA when this is actually going to be fixed please? Thanks. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2400
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:54:00 -
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Saw it was fixed, then the post saying it was fixed vanished... which I guess means it isn't fixed? |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
233
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:55:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses. yeah, thanx - great time for me to buy an active booster, thinking I'll spend the day playing. |
Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
15
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Posted - 2013.09.21 19:23:00 -
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Thank you CCP for acting swiftly on this issue |
Tay Zondayy
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 20:01:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses.
CANT YOU GET ANYTHING RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????? |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3059
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Posted - 2013.09.21 20:56:00 -
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Tay Zondayy wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Our operations guys are looking into this issue which was causing disconnects over night and again today after downtime.
Will keep you posted on how that progresses. CANT YOU GET ANYTHING RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
Complaining about it doesn't help anything, yanno. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
81
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:31:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:The issue should be sorted now as mentioned here by CCP Logibro. Any further issue please post in the above thread (so we can keep a track of any further issue). Thanks
No dice.... your link is 404. |
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Arc-08
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.09.22 04:55:00 -
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How dare you -_- |
Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
51
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Posted - 2013.09.22 13:41:00 -
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How do we enter a petition for active booster reimbursement? My active booster ended on Saturday and I needed (and planned on) grinding 4-5 hours Friday night so I could reach my weekly cap before the booster ran out. I had 58+k of weekly bonus left when I went out for dinner Saturday which is about what I would have grinded out Friday night. |
Andris Kronis
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:35:00 -
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I don't get the disconnected error anymore at least but I do get the hard freezes of the game, anyone got any suggestions?
So far I have tried:
Deleting my PS3 database Repairing PS3 file system Deleting game files Rebooting (of course) Total power disconnect
I'm yet to totally reinstall DUST514.
I have logged a support ticket. |
Andris Kronis
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.09.24 11:27:00 -
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No freezes for me tonight but had some DCs of other guys in faction warfare before downtime, will check FW after downtime, things are looking up :)
I didn't DC or freeze for the first time in a week, awesome, now I just have to cap SP before downtime tomorrow .... |
Andris Kronis
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:20:00 -
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Much better, looks like the majority or all of the problem has gone away, I'll be closing my ticket for this one :) |
VlaBarz
D3LTA ACADEMY
0
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:22:00 -
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I can't go to the screen in wich you can choose your character (sometimes it display "Internal error" message, sometimes "Data file" message, sometimes it does't want to sync with the server at all). This start to happen like a week ago and I can't play the game becose of that. I use the PS3 fat model. |
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