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hgghyujh
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:26:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:There are ways to punish bad players in attendance, and thereby effectively blocking them.
As I said, charge them for failed missions.
A scrub is not going to pay half a million isk in collateral and then continually bring his team down.
Here's an even better idea, for every failed mission in a row the collateral increases. That could work but heres a problem I could forsee, with the failed mission charge, what happens when say you are a good player yet your team still takes a loss? Do you get penilized? This would be complexe to figure out the rules and code it for something that doesnt need an imediate fix.
yes FW has an impact on eve so participation should be high risk high reward. Granted FW should really be tiered with lower risk and higher risk missions, but hell you don't even have to set it as payed for contracts just you only get payed a small per WP fee say 3-10isk per wp, and the real pay out comes in like a 400k victory reward. |
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:30:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:So lets make a scenario, some guy/gal likes to game, not too great but enjoy's themselves, tries ambush/skir/dom gets met by CCP's lack of ability to create a match making system and his 550k SP ass gets proto stomped left, right and center by the large amount of Dust players who will run nothing other than their sunday best.
He decides to try FW out to see if its any better for him, it isn't. So the appropriate procedure would be to ban him from a game mode for not being 1337 enough?
What you asking for is to punish lower SP players for not being high SP players. That's pathetic. And also considering FW has nothing in it other than standard rewards for a Dust514 player, and the link between Eve and Dust514 is so weak that I don't notice nor care about the outcome of FW. You'd think CCP would have added some Eve news/talk to the new "Updates" splash page.
I say no, If a player goes 0/17 in a match, sucks to be him already, without further punishments.
Only fixes needed for FW:
Only being allowed to fight for your chosen race(the one from character creation).
Better prizes and Salvage(personally I'd like to see old event dropsuits and weapons dropped in FW salvage).
A more compelling and visual insight on what your actions in the wars are doing eve side.
yes they should be banned, if you do a standings setup you could be banned from running a races FW fights untill you grind back up that standing, you have no business in FW if you don't know what you are doing and the game should enforce this, and then explain how to reopen FW. |
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:36:00 -
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Lonnar wrote:Maybe the poor bastard was having a bad day? I suck at FPS games in general but I'm also not half bad ... I can rack up a few kills before the end of a match. On some days though ... that 0/17 with only 100 WP sounds like something I could pull when I just wasn't feeling the vibe. Usually that's my cue to call it quits for the day and try again tomorrow.
If I was banned from a game type for simply having a bad gun-game that one night ... I think I'd be more than a little miffed at the system.
once again if its a standings setup this is a none issue, you have to lose the standings you gained on your good nights. and frankly if you cant stay positive what are you doing in FW.
not to sound like an elitist prick but FW should be siphoning off the high end players not be the training grounds for the new guys, their needs to be better reward, faction rewards, FW needs high risk high reward. |
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:38:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Only being allowed to fight for your chosen race(the one from character creation). This is the only part I disagree with. You should be able to declare your loyalty and chose a different faction.
agreed you are a merc you fight where you damn well please... once again a standings system would reward fighting for one faction, with out disallowing you to fight for many. |
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:41:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Only being allowed to fight for your chosen race(the one from character creation). This is the only part I disagree with. You should be able to declare your loyalty and chose a different faction. Yea, this. I keep seeing people whine about not being trapped in the faction they chose, whether it be with Gear or FW... WHY?
welllll..... the suits should favor the guns of the race but untill all the suits and guns are in this is not possible, and as I said above, you should be encouraged to play for one faction, but not required. |
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Posted - 2013.09.22 00:11:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Why not add a, if you die x amount of time in a row without gaining any WPs you get booted from battle unable to rejoin it.
no a mixture of a standings based system and a payment on victory would be ideal, you wanna pull of vets to FW and away from pubstomps, rewards should be 600-800k per victory, and 25-100isk/WP this all but guarantees that vets will will average ~2x the isk that they would in pub matches and would make the matches more competitive and interesting I mean vehicles could be regularly funded from these matches.
ohhh and maybe you could throw in an isk bonus for the amount of armor damage that you get from the mcc
I'm think I remember CCP saying some where that they didn't want to make FW about a lot of isk because its really meant for the RPers but their is no where else to draw vets to for their daily grind(PC doesn't fufill this need), If at least in the short term they were turned into high risk high reward matches, maybe with a bonus as your faction standing increases, then you would see less proto stomps in the pubs, **** player in proto can't proto stomp.
and hell if CCP really wants to turn on FF in FW they are gonna need some sort of standings system anyways. |
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