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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:09:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Only allowing full squads and teams while paying an entry cost would probably solve this.
Team Deployment yes.
Entry Cost?
We are Mercenaries Contracted by the Factions or Corporations. They pay us to fight for them, not the other way around. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:14:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:dogmanpig wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I think I now understand why one side is steam rolling the other.
Not to sound like an elitist ****, but perhaps its time to start banning bad players from FW. A person with absolutely no talent whatsoever should not be taking up a valuable FW deployment slot.
At the very least, we should be charging them for failed missions. thats nothing... i just went 0/49, 0wp in FW I actually believe you. reason right there that there should be requirements for FW and cost players for losing. as well as a limit on suicides per minute.
I don't think players should have to pay for losing. There should definitely be a limit on suicides, though. Maybe after 5 you get kicked from the battle?
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:33:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You don't think players should have to pay for losing?
So you think the game should be no risk, all reward. Right....
The risk is there in the weapons, modules, equipment, dropsuits, and vehicles you bring to the battle. When you die, you lose ISK.
If a bad player dies 10 times in a match, in an all standard Suit, he probably lost ISK in the match.
The losing team does not receive as large of a payout on top of that.
If I get stuck on a ****** team, why should I pay because my team sucks? I would already be losing ISK trying to carry a whole team to Victory. It isn't easy fighting 1 vs 16, which is what it feels like sometimes.
I was in a match earlier, the enemy had an HAV. I died 5 times trying to take it out with my FG. I was the only guy on my whole team trying to get rid of this HAV.
Tanker went 23/0
I went 5/6. I spent 3/4 of the match trying to take out the tank. I had absolutely no help. Not even when infantry was trying to support the tank. (thats where I got my kills *rubs SMG*
My team did win, but might have gotten cloned by one HAV, had I not been there to keep him pushed back. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:45:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You don't think players should have to pay for losing?
So you think the game should be no risk, all reward. Right.... The risk is there in the weapons, modules, equipment, dropsuits, and vehicles you bring to the battle. When you die, you lose ISK. If a bad player dies 10 times in a match, in an all standard Suit, he probably lost ISK in the match. if a bad player dies 20 times in a match, in an all standard suit, he probably gain ISK in the match.
How do you figure? My Standard suit costs around 25k. If I died 10 times and made 250k I broke even, but I'm not making 250k without making at least 1000 WP, especially if I'm on the losing team. I've won battles where I went 25/5, got 2nd on the board with 1800 WP and didn't even make 300k.
You die 20 times in a match using standard gear, that match just cost you around 500k, unless you are logi, you probably didn't get more than 500 WP with a score like that. Your payout would only be about 150k ISK.
How is that an ISK gain? |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
854
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:48:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You don't think players should have to pay for losing?
So you think the game should be no risk, all reward. Right.... The risk is there in the weapons, modules, equipment, dropsuits, and vehicles you bring to the battle. When you die, you lose ISK. If a bad player dies 10 times in a match, in an all standard Suit, he probably lost ISK in the match. if a bad player dies 20 times in a match, in an all standard suit, he probably gain ISK in the match. How do you figure? My Standard suit costs around 25k. If I died 10 times and made 250k I broke even, but I'm not making 250k without making at least 1000 WP, especially if I'm on the losing team. I've won battles where I went 25/5, got 2nd on the board with 1800 WP and didn't even make 300k. You die 20 times in a match using standard gear, that match just cost you around 500k, unless you are logi, you probably didn't get more than 500 WP with a score like that. Your payout would only be about 150k ISK. How is that an ISK gain? your standard suit cost a lot, mines only 5k. so thats only 120k and most AFK matches i atleast make that.
Unless you are using BPOs, you cant make an all Standard Fitting for 5k, it's impossible.
I don't have BPOs on this toon. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:54:00 -
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ladwar wrote:your fault not mine.
Very constructive! |
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