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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2346
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:54:00 -
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Disciple Of Kesha wrote:Respect must be given where it is due. They are a brave lot and I pray for their salvation.
And we pray that they may one day recognise their brothers and sisters from Amarr and join them as God's chosen children. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2355
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Posted - 2013.09.28 14:40:00 -
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Cpl Foster USMC wrote:I'm gonna duct tape you all into oblivion when I get my hands on you....
It is renegades like you that prevent the good Matari peoples from ever finding true peace, and the love of God.
I pray that one day I may judge you in His name, for the good of all humanity. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2357
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Posted - 2013.09.28 15:07:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Cpl Foster USMC wrote:I'm gonna duct tape you all into oblivion when I get my hands on you.... It is renegades like you that prevent the good Matari peoples from ever [allowing us to enslave you again] And for that we thank him. Booyakasha!
Such must happen if they are to become a part of the empire. Freedom earned, is more valuable that freedom given or assumed. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2359
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Posted - 2013.09.28 15:25:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Cpl Foster USMC wrote:I'm gonna duct tape you all into oblivion when I get my hands on you.... It is renegades like you that prevent the good Matari peoples from ever [allowing us to enslave you again] And for that we thank him. Booyakasha! Such must happen if they are to become a part of the empire. Freedom earned, is more valuable that freedom given or assumed. You never had to earn it.
Did we not suffer on old Athra, did we not overcome the harshness of the deserts, the cold winter winds, or the pangs of starvation.
Unlike you and the Matari we did not live out our early years on Paradise worlds. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2359
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Posted - 2013.09.28 15:33:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So, this all comes down to jealousy?
No, but we suffered greatly while your people lived through their early ages in relative comfort and ease. Through our trials we were brought closer to God, and in doing so we became God's chosen children to unite the stars under His banner. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2370
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Posted - 2013.09.29 02:00:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Foley Jones wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Foley Jones wrote:Hey Areo
Cool story bro
publish it to someone who gives a **** Foley, what happened to you? You used to be a really well mannered fellow, but no it appears as though you lack the maturity that you can find even in a small child. You dont know me so how dare you judge me This is what I mean by you guys have a ego bigger than new eden, you judge people thinking you know whats best im sorry to say but you are just as mature as me pal A likely response Coming from a hard-nosed caldari such as yourself. We amarr of the higher class (true amarrs) learn to accept that. 1 of the unspoken truths about the Amarr/Caldari partnership. HEY! Dont talk about my nose......
Where are you getting these horrible generalisations from?
Someone tell you the
Caldari are tight walleted fascists?
or the
Amarr are Zealots and fanatics?
or the
Gallente are Self righteous and obnoxious, junkies to the world of corrupt politicians?
or the
Minmatar are Tribal Savages who roll around in the mud and filth?
Where did you hear these ignorant concepts? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2376
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Posted - 2013.09.29 02:59:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:are you asking me or this ghost face guy?
A little bit of both. I would like to know what changed you.
Slip second decision or something you worked though, or perhaps the adoption of general opinion of your new corporation to fit in. Neither decision would cause me to be angry or saddened, and honest response would be appreciated. I liked squading with you. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2376
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:07:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Foley Jones wrote:Hey Areo
Cool story bro
publish it to someone who gives a **** Foley, what happened to you? You used to be a really well mannered fellow, but no it appears as though you lack the maturity that you can find even in a small child. Aero, please. You deny your own intelligence and by proxy insult ours. He has been enlightened and sees slavery for what it is; free labor.
I have explained the concepts of Amarrian slavery to you OOC, and you wont recognise it for what it is. I know you are a reasonably well informed RPer, a pretty intelligent merc, do not play the lacky or the fanatic when you could play the intellectual.
Admittedly I feel sometimes that I have to make these commets OOC for people to even attempt to listen. And sometime I feel the Gallenteans and Matari play better fanatics than I do as a Templar...... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2382
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:33:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:True Adamance wrote:Foley Jones wrote:are you asking me or this ghost face guy? A little bit of both. I would like to know what changed you. Slip second decision or something you worked though, or perhaps the adoption of general opinion of your new corporation to fit in. Neither decision would cause me to be angry or saddened, and honest response would be appreciated. I liked squading with you. Ah adamance...a amarrian in PIE who isent a ego massive **********, how I honor you in my life Well friend let me ask when did I ever ******* change? are you refering to when I went though the process of becoming a Duster? When I lost all my memories becuase of a failurein transferring them to my clone? Did you know me before that? if so then im actually curious as to what I was likeI
I do remember you when you worked for Haeg. They were good days, you were a loyal caldari soldier someone who took pride in fighting for the State. perhaps that is behind you now. Well such is the nature of New Eden I would say. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2396
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:15:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Foley Jones wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:A likely response
Coming from a hard-nosed caldari such as yourself.
We amarr of the higher class (true amarrs) learn to accept that.
1 of the unspoken truths about the Amarr/Caldari partnership. HEY! Dont talk about my nose...... Where are you getting these horrible generalisations from? Someone tell you the Gallente are Self righteous and obnoxious, junkies to the world of corrupt politicians? or the Minmatar are Tribal Savages who roll around in the mud and filth? Where did you hear these ignorant concepts? I was under the impression you believed both of those (With the exception of the Minmatar under your control).
No am somewhat more educated that the masses. I am hurt you have so little respect for my intelligence Arkena.
There are many kinds off Amarr, puritanical, conservatives, reformists. I would think myself one of the thinkers of the latter group.
Very obviously old views, and biases have not benefited our Empire. Also I follow the more mild and accepting teaching of St Anoyia. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2445
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Posted - 2013.09.30 23:12:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Foley Jones wrote:Hey Areo
Cool story bro
publish it to someone who gives a **** Foley, what happened to you? You used to be a really well mannered fellow, but no it appears as though you lack the maturity that you can find even in a small child. Aero, please. You deny your own intelligence and by proxy insult ours. He has been enlightened and sees slavery for what it is; free labor. My head hurts. Are you seriously trying to suggest that "Cool story bro" and "who gives a ****" is mature? And I suppose it doesn't matter how many times we make it clear that Amarr do not do "slavery" for free labor, you guys already made up your mind that that's the only possible reason. It's like the old story of Ardishapur and the Anmatar Mandate - a individual so convinced that the Amarr are nothing but evil that even when he beared witness to several accounts to the contrary, it was not good enough to break his preconceived notions of who he thought we were. Compose oneself, my dear dictative gamin and hearken the plea of a moved man, I do not believe that the Amarr started slavery on the premise of orchestrating an unrecompensed labor force. Though, for better or worse, the practice has degraded to that. This I most evident in the fact that the Amarr are economically dependent on slave labor. The work the fields, manufacture goods and even perform manual tasks such as house cleaning and other such maintenance work. To counter your position that you simply wish to educate them on your ways is also flawed. The majority of slaves are not even allowed to learn the practice of literacy. How will they ever learn about your ways if they are not permitted to learn? As a less rehearsed gentleman may exclaim, "THIS SYSTEM IS BROKE!".
Of course the system works. The Pious and devout and allowed to be free men and women, at that point they can pursue the education that any Amarrian is capable of attaining.
"As centuries passed, the practice of freeing pious and loyal slaves came into being. Because the taking of slaves had been justified through religious means, the Amarr began to view the act as a method of religious rehabilitation. Those slaves who embraced the Amarr religion and proved themselves worthy were granted freedom by their masters, entering Amarr society as peasants.
In the beginning, this was controversial, and many freed slaves were quickly captured and re-enslaved by other slavers. The Council of Apostles, however, ruled that a slave who had been freed was a citizen of the Empire and could not be enslaved again save as punishment for some crime. Gradually, this became the accepted purpose of holding slaves; to instruct them in the Amarr religion until they or their descendants were worthy of joining the Empire as freed men. "
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2449
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:19:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:If you guys actually allowed all slaves an equal opportunity to learn, I may actually be alright. Though, the current system of holding the majority of slaves captive without an opportunity to learn, is unfair to all slaves.
That is up to the Holder, it is his prerogative, if the slaves need to be educated they are. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2450
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Posted - 2013.10.01 01:44:00 -
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Demel Derpovsky wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:If you guys actually allowed all slaves an equal opportunity to learn, I may actually be alright. Though, the current system of holding the majority of slaves captive without an opportunity to learn, is unfair to all slaves. That is up to the Holder, it is his prerogative, if the slaves need to be educated they are. ((Hey True Adamance, just a little OOC note, have you been coming to the Hex Club lately? ....we miss you bro :( ))
Will be back I just lost my inspiration on what to write for Satja and Kador. |
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