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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:33:00 -
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Mercs im sick of risking my ass in pub fights for verry little isk return . The most iv got from a pub game this build was little over 700k.
Im sure thesh large npc corperations that fund these battles could posibly reward us with more isk for what we accomplish. They are the greedy fat cats holding all the isk. But what if we all refused to fight and called for an organised strike for pay rises. We could all just not fight I.e. war barge rave partys.
We want more isk for our efforts I resent the fact that if I accomplishnthe same wp with std turrets I get the same reward as if I was using adv or pro turrets why are these large corperations not rewarding us according to the cost we put into the battle to win on their behalf...
So my brothers and sisters in arms lets unite and show them they have nothing without us ......... |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
962
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:37:00 -
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You get paid for the results, not for what gets them. In EVE, a belt rat isn't suddenly worth more if you kill it with bigger guns. As it stands, I get more than enough to recoup my losses and then some in every battle I've been in. If you're using bigger gear and lose it... how is that the NPC corp's fault? |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
599
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:40:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Mercs im sick of risking my ass in pub fights for verry little isk return . The most iv got from a pub game this build was little over 700k.
Im sure thesh large npc corperations that fund these battles could posibly reward us with more isk for what we accomplish. They are the greedy fat cats holding all the isk. But what if we all refused to fight and called for an organised strike for pay rises. We could all just not fight I.e. war barge rave partys.
We want more isk for our efforts I resent the fact that if I accomplishnthe same wp with std turrets I get the same reward as if I was using adv or pro turrets why are these large corperations not rewarding us according to the cost we put into the battle to win on their behalf...
So my brothers and sisters in arms lets unite and show them they have nothing without us .........
Tanker complains he doesn't get enough despite getting more than infantry per match already. Welc I me to new eden, nothing is cheap here!! |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:41:00 -
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Im just saying more isk for our efforts would be good in pub games . You must be german because you have absolutly no sence of humour. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:43:00 -
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I wad also hinting at the possibility that they could also reward us accordingly to the isk we invested and our impact on the battlefield. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2160
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:48:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Mercs im sick of risking my ass in pub fights for verry little isk return . The most iv got from a pub game this build was little over 700k.
Im sure thesh large npc corperations that fund these battles could posibly reward us with more isk for what we accomplish. They are the greedy fat cats holding all the isk. But what if we all refused to fight and called for an organised strike for pay rises. We could all just not fight I.e. war barge rave partys.
We want more isk for our efforts I resent the fact that if I accomplishnthe same wp with std turrets I get the same reward as if I was using adv or pro turrets why are these large corperations not rewarding us according to the cost we put into the battle to win on their behalf...
So my brothers and sisters in arms lets unite and show them they have nothing without us ......... We don't deserve more ISK for what we do. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
599
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:53:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:I wad also hinting at the possibility that they could also reward us accordingly to the isk we invested and our impact on the battlefield.
No im not german, my humour is just different to yours!! Maybe a little extra would be nice! No it should not be based on your "investment" in the match. If you can't fund it, don't run it. Your performance already affects your pay packet, just not as much as it should!! |
pamuku420tyme
RedBerry Genocide
32
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:55:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:I wad also hinting at the possibility that they could also reward us accordingly to the isk we invested and our impact on the battlefield.
So you are hinting at making ISK as hard to get as SP? If you get more isk for expensive equipment 2 main things would happen. 1. ISK would be harder to obtain 2. There would be absolutely no end to proto stomping
People who make post like this are who i always talk about, for ruining the game. The devs listen to stupid post like this instead of helpful ones. All people like pegasis want is a game that is suited best FOR THEM not for all...
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:59:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:pegasis prime wrote:I wad also hinting at the possibility that they could also reward us accordingly to the isk we invested and our impact on the battlefield. No im not german, my humour is just different to yours!! Maybe a little extra would be nice! No it should not be based on your "investment" in the match. If you can't fund it, don't run it. Your performance already affects your pay packet, just not as much as it should!!
I have no problems funding my tanks but I why would I roll with proto or adv turrets as I more than often acchieve the same results with std turrets. Nothing wrong for a little more isk.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:02:00 -
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pamuku420tyme wrote:pegasis prime wrote:I wad also hinting at the possibility that they could also reward us accordingly to the isk we invested and our impact on the battlefield. So you are hinting at making ISK as hard to get as SP? If you get more isk for expensive equipment 2 main things would happen. 1. ISK would be harder to obtain 2. There would be absolutely no end to proto stomping People who make post like this are who i always talk about, for ruining the game. The devs listen to stupid post like this instead of helpful ones. All people like pegasis want is a game that is suited best FOR THEM not for all...
It would also give everyone insentiv to run their best gear all the time as it would be even more profitable if they win we will have proto.stomps no matter what but this would also be good encouragement to skill up to the next tier as soon as possible.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:03:00 -
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This would also solve afking for isk . But I guess some of you might be against that. |
pamuku420tyme
RedBerry Genocide
32
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:07:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:This would also solve afking for isk . But I guess some of you might be against that.
Trying to cover your original topic with an AFKing point, as soon as you get attacked on your point makes you look weak, and so does the "i know everything" snide remark you made... sry bud you failed |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:12:00 -
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There arw allot of good things that could come from a change in the way we are rewarded isk . But some of you couldent see the humour in my origenal post ...... im not sure why because if any of you acctually think about itninstead of just comming on and insulting . Ad none of you have evennmade a deacent counter argument against what I have said and just tryed to hoplessly troll like compleate fuGéźkt@rd5 |
pamuku420tyme
RedBerry Genocide
32
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:16:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:There arw allot of good things that could come from a change in the way we are rewarded isk . But some of you couldent see the humour in my origenal post ...... im not sure why because if any of you acctually think about itninstead of just comming on and insulting . Ad none of you have evennmade a deacent counter argument against what I have said and just tryed to hoplessly troll like compleate fuGéźkt@rd5
No counter??? Ummm... im pretty sure i made a list there slugger.... so you are ******** |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
964
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:16:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:pamuku420tyme wrote:pegasis prime wrote:I wad also hinting at the possibility that they could also reward us accordingly to the isk we invested and our impact on the battlefield. So you are hinting at making ISK as hard to get as SP? If you get more isk for expensive equipment 2 main things would happen. 1. ISK would be harder to obtain 2. There would be absolutely no end to proto stomping People who make post like this are who i always talk about, for ruining the game. The devs listen to stupid post like this instead of helpful ones. All people like pegasis want is a game that is suited best FOR THEM not for all... It would also give everyone insentiv to run their best gear all the time as it would be even more profitable if they win we will have proto.stomps no matter what but this would also be good encouragement to skill up to the next tier as soon as possible.
Exactly HOW would the game be better if every Proto capable player was in proto gear at all times? Anyone of lower level, AKA new players, would get ROFLstomped into the ground so hard only the worst of people would find it funny. It would also destroy the reason Prototype EXISTS. It is your Sunday Best. No one walks around in their best clothes all day every day, you bring it out for special occasions like PC or sparsely in FW.
As a final caveat, if proto players get payed for using proto, then they will always use proto. If Militia or Standard level players get paid for being low-level, they will never get any real money. If you get paid based on your gear, then the only 'AKF' you fix is people AFKing in non Red-and-Black suits. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3205
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:24:00 -
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Don't waste anything above advanced infantry gear in a pub match- and don't use vehicles period.
Running proto gear or using vehicles is only good for emptying your wallet. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
775
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:27:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:The most iv got from a pub game this build was little over 700k.
You ******* serious? That's 3 times as much as I get. I get about 250k when I'm lucky. Never over 300k. And you complain about not getting enough ISK?
Not even I complain about the 250k I get. Because it's more than enough. I'm currently swimming in 50 million ISK and already gave my corp about 30 million from the 80 million I had before. And I don't know what to spend it on. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2144
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:30:00 -
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For the love of God!- use comas and punctuations!
That said, ISK is a balancing factor to keep people running proto 100% of the time. Or at the very least, to keep people from doing it while dying like a militia scrub. |
SgtDoughnut
M.E.R.C. Elite
143
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Posted - 2013.09.20 23:32:00 -
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You get offered a contract worth x amount of ISK from a mega corp. You accept contract worth X amount of ISK from a mega corp (go into a pub match). You spend Y amount of ISK trying to meet the terms of said contract. If Y > X then you are doing something wrong and dedicating too much gear to too little return. |
Pegress
H.Y.D.R.A. Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.09.21 12:31:00 -
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Well to be perfectly honest this Pegasis (spelled it wrong) is sad that everyone kills him in basic things and he wants more money at the end of the game to receive as little loss as he can get. Sorry but this is Eve not as easy as that |
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
293
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Posted - 2013.09.21 12:36:00 -
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In a game filled with cowards and garbage, it really matters little at this point. The player count has been dropping for a while now. We can't keep new people. Then again, if we separate the new from the old, the old would just cry massive rivers because they can't wheelchair anymore.
ISK means nothing if there's nothing to use it on.
Gear means nothing if there's no one to use it against.
Without new blood, this murky pond of filth of ours is going to dry up. |
straya fox
CybinSect
28
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Posted - 2013.09.21 12:38:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Mercs im sick of risking my ass in pub fights for verry little isk return . The most iv got from a pub game this build was little over 700k.
Im sure thesh large npc corperations that fund these battles could posibly reward us with more isk for what we accomplish. They are the greedy fat cats holding all the isk. But what if we all refused to fight and called for an organised strike for pay rises. We could all just not fight I.e. war barge rave partys.
We want more isk for our efforts I resent the fact that if I accomplishnthe same wp with std turrets I get the same reward as if I was using adv or pro turrets why are these large corperations not rewarding us according to the cost we put into the battle to win on their behalf...
So my brothers and sisters in arms lets unite and show them they have nothing without us .........
Far out man 700K? that is a substantial payment, i mean seriously, who gets that much per pub match besides you? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2177
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Posted - 2013.09.21 12:39:00 -
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straya fox wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Mercs im sick of risking my ass in pub fights for verry little isk return . The most iv got from a pub game this build was little over 700k.
Im sure thesh large npc corperations that fund these battles could posibly reward us with more isk for what we accomplish. They are the greedy fat cats holding all the isk. But what if we all refused to fight and called for an organised strike for pay rises. We could all just not fight I.e. war barge rave partys.
We want more isk for our efforts I resent the fact that if I accomplishnthe same wp with std turrets I get the same reward as if I was using adv or pro turrets why are these large corperations not rewarding us according to the cost we put into the battle to win on their behalf...
So my brothers and sisters in arms lets unite and show them they have nothing without us ......... Far out man 700K? that is a substantial payment, i mean seriously, who gets that much per pub match besides you? I got 500k once.... and never since |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1012
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:23:00 -
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Pegress wrote:Well to be perfectly honest this Pegasis (spelled it wrong) is sad that everyone kills him in basic things and he wants more money at the end of the game to receive as little loss as he can get. Sorry but this is Eve not as easy as that
Sigh little pegress.when did I say I got killsed in basic . Go teoll else where little boy you for get I know youe shite record so **** off you spotty sub pubesent little stain. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1012
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:24:00 -
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straya fox wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Mercs im sick of risking my ass in pub fights for verry little isk return . The most iv got from a pub game this build was little over 700k.
Im sure thesh large npc corperations that fund these battles could posibly reward us with more isk for what we accomplish. They are the greedy fat cats holding all the isk. But what if we all refused to fight and called for an organised strike for pay rises. We could all just not fight I.e. war barge rave partys.
We want more isk for our efforts I resent the fact that if I accomplishnthe same wp with std turrets I get the same reward as if I was using adv or pro turrets why are these large corperations not rewarding us according to the cost we put into the battle to win on their behalf...
So my brothers and sisters in arms lets unite and show them they have nothing without us ......... Far out man 700K? that is a substantial payment, i mean seriously, who gets that much per pub match besides you?
Dud I rutienly bring in a min of 300k per game now thats with std adv or pro turrets on my hav now whats tge point in brining in higher investments if you dont get more of a reward.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1012
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:26:00 -
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Pegress wrote:Well to be perfectly honest this Pegasis (spelled it wrong) is sad that everyone kills him in basic things and he wants more money at the end of the game to receive as little loss as he can get. Sorry but this is Eve not as easy as that
Also pegress if tge best you can do is point out how I spelt my name (a homage to a game that you are too young to remember ) is tge best you can do well your trolling akills are minimum at best. |
Nonya Bizznizz
DUST University Ivy League
47
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:29:00 -
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I don't know if I'm just stupid or if I just suck, but to me 700K ISK is actually a whole lot. The most I got during Uprising and even Pre-Uprising was only about 250K ISK. |
Viktor Zokas
High-Damage
362
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:41:00 -
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War is hell. |
DildoMcnutz
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
197
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:07:00 -
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Nonya Bizznizz wrote:I don't know if I'm just stupid or if I just suck, but to me 700K ISK is actually a whole lot. The most I got during Uprising and even Pre-Uprising was only about 250K ISK.
Grab a forge or swarm and start destroying all the turret installations, it always ends up giving me a lot more dosh when I do so.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1012
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:02:00 -
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Nonya Bizznizz wrote:I don't know if I'm just stupid or if I just suck, but to me 700K ISK is actually a whole lot. The most I got during Uprising and even Pre-Uprising was only about 250K ISK.
Dude I had a game back in chrome where the enimy spammed lavs and malitia tanks I went 20/0 with over 5000wp andjust under900k isk . Thats my record for pub games my record kills is 64/0 at tge start of uorising just before all the av rambos appeared and I only.ended with aprox 500k from that one. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8692
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:08:00 -
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As another person pointed out you're getting paid for results and efficiency. The company doesn't suddenly get more money if you win the battle, they just have to spend far less on security that can permanently die. No need to constantly lose those folks and retrain them. The attacking side is having similar gains as well. After the fight over whatever either company does for money (if there is any to be made) will go about and do their thing and sometimes if its oh say a lab raid, they may get like nothing at all. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:20:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As another person pointed out you're getting paid for results and efficiency. The company doesn't suddenly get more money if you win the battle, they just have to spend far less on security that can permanently die. No need to constantly lose those folks and retrain them. The attacking side is having similar gains as well. After the fight over whatever either company does for money (if there is any to be made) will go about and do their thing and sometimes if its oh say a lab raid, they may get like nothing at all.
Yes I do understand tge mechanics of payment but I still cant fathom why every one seems so happy to.grind pub games for such little return . Why would some corperation be happy to fund tge same isk for a bunch of malitia rambos as they would for a bunch of proto monsters . It just deems highly illogical.
Yes i understand that the npc isk generator that is pub games has to have some sort of cap . But it also seems odd that a "corperation" would front the same isk for a bunch of less skilld and less experienced soldiers as they would for a battle hardend mercenary core. |
Lightning Bolt2
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
243
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:26:00 -
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use something you can afford better, such as STD or ADV gear. save proto for PC or 4 fun. |
R F Gyro
Clones 4u
520
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:45:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Yes I do understand tge mechanics of payment but I still cant fathom why every one seems so happy to.grind pub games for such little return . Why would some corperation be happy to fund tge same isk for a bunch of malitia rambos as they would for a bunch of proto monsters . It just deems highly illogical.
Yes i understand that the npc isk generator that is pub games has to have some sort of cap . But it also seems odd that a "corperation" would front the same isk for a bunch of less skilld and less experienced soldiers as they would for a battle hardend mercenary core. In order of priority when designing a game, balance will always come ahead of backstory. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1012
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:45:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:use something you can afford better, such as STD or ADV gear. save proto for PC or 4 fun.
We dont have proto havs . This thread is not about me being able to maintain my havs. I dont have isk efficiency problems . I just think the payment mechanics are illogical. |
Pegress
H.Y.D.R.A. Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:47:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Pegress wrote:Well to be perfectly honest this Pegasis (spelled it wrong) is sad that everyone kills him in basic things and he wants more money at the end of the game to receive as little loss as he can get. Sorry but this is Eve not as easy as that Also pegress if tge best you can do is point out how I spelt my name (a homage to a game that you are too young to remember ) is tge best you can do well your trolling akills are minimum at best.
Trolling minimum? I just don't like the ideas of this thread it's supporting oldies not the newbies |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1201
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:33:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Mercs im sick of risking my ass in pub fights for verry little isk return . The most iv got from a pub game this build was little over 700k.
Im sure thesh large npc corperations that fund these battles could posibly reward us with more isk for what we accomplish. They are the greedy fat cats holding all the isk. But what if we all refused to fight and called for an organised strike for pay rises. We could all just not fight I.e. war barge rave partys.
We want more isk for our efforts I resent the fact that if I accomplishnthe same wp with std turrets I get the same reward as if I was using adv or pro turrets why are these large corperations not rewarding us according to the cost we put into the battle to win on their behalf...
So my brothers and sisters in arms lets unite and show them they have nothing without us .........
I fight for the Empire, not ISK , Caldari soldier.... |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
605
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:31:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As another person pointed out you're getting paid for results and efficiency. The company doesn't suddenly get more money if you win the battle, they just have to spend far less on security that can permanently die. No need to constantly lose those folks and retrain them. The attacking side is having similar gains as well. After the fight over whatever either company does for money (if there is any to be made) will go about and do their thing and sometimes if its oh say a lab raid, they may get like nothing at all. Yes I do understand tge mechanics of payment but I still cant fathom why every one seems so happy to.grind pub games for such little return . Why would some corperation be happy to fund tge same isk for a bunch of malitia rambos as they would for a bunch of proto monsters . It just deems highly illogical. Yes i understand that the npc isk generator that is pub games has to have some sort of cap . But it also seems odd that a "corperation" would front the same isk for a bunch of less skilld and less experienced soldiers as they would for a battle hardend mercenary core.
Public Contract!
Publicly available to all mercs, first come first servec thats why, the slot is open to anyone at a price, accepting that price is down to you!
The reason none of us care about the isk grind, is because none of loose enough equipment to a public to not turn a profit, even other tankers!! |
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