DUST Search - [bug] in heads of devs, they just dont understand what to do with gamepad controls

ratamaq doc wrote:

dalt ud wrote:

N1ck Comeau wrote:

fine for me.

Maybe you're just bad

In battlefiend 3 i play with 100% of sensitivity, it is x3 or even x4 faster than 100% in dust 514. And controls is perfect, good for fine aiming and fast for turning as mouse in dust 514. Speed of turning is not linear. Small move of stick - fine aiming, large move - fast turning.

In dust 514 i have KD 5+ so yes, i am very very bad Blink

, but main battle i had - against controls, its too slow and not fine. I dont like to play with 50% of my skill coz bad controls.

Most gamepad users are really slow, and for them controls is not bad. But CCP force anyone to be slowpoke with no choice.

In other case in dust 514 mouses have fast sensitivity. I dislike kbm and dont want play with it.

I dont play dust 514 since 14th may, but i still like this game. It has no analogues. And for CCP fix this problems not so hard, but devs dont understand what to do. They know way of MMO, but shooter is very different.

p.s. So if they will do dust 514 for ps4 - we will see. But i guess this game need tuning for the year or two to become game with enough quality :(

I hear you dude, and I'm with you. I've even posted videos, threads, irc, tweets, and it's been the primary feedback I've given from the beginning in every survey I've taken. On my last trek to make this case, I learned a phrase. "Twitch Shooter". From what I can tell, it's a derogatory name used by FPS players with low manual dexterity who rely game limitations to handicap other players to make their FPS experience enjoyable. The rotation cap is intentional, not a lack of knowledge. You can tell by the lack of response in this thread that we are an extreme minority.

Just remember, some people like NFS: some people like Mario Cart. The vast majority of the fat-n-lazy caps that come down from eve to play this game, and keep the devs ears, are of the Mario Cart breed. And many of the Console FPS transfers are ones trying to get away from "Twitch Shooters" and are hiding here. If you DO make a good case to get the cap raised to that of a normal AAA, you be met with torches and pitch forks.

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dalt ud Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 317	Posted - 2013.09.20 10:55:00 - [1] - Quote what we need: 1. fast and smooth gamepad controls like in other AAA shooters on ps3. Sensitivity on maximum must be as fast as mouse have on maximum. Sensitivity on minimum must be much below mouse's minimum for newbies. 2. Probably a little aim assist. what they did in 1.4: 1. Slow as hell sensitivity of gamepads, and still have inputlag. So with that problems even slow controls is not smooth at all. 2. Strong aim assist So, CCP, just fix your minds or hire specialists (why dont askSony to support you, they have a lot devs who already made great controls system for gamepad). Controls is most vital part of shooter. We need no additional content if controls is S-¥IT.
dalt ud Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 318	Posted - 2013.09.21 12:58:00 - [2] - Quote lol, no one agree with me? Then you all definitely deserve what you have now....
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1440	Posted - 2013.09.21 14:59:00 - [3] - Quote fine for me. Maybe you're just bad
Wolfgard Bistrellan Bullet Cluster 0	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:08:00 - [4] - Quote Stick shaping is what's needed. A nice smooth curve that gives a lot more sensitivity for small motions than large motions. Large motions still give you fast turns. Don't just do a linear slope in stick input to angular rate output. Low slope for small inputs, steep slope for big inputs. Then let us shape it ourselves in settings. That would be cool.
dalt ud Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 318	Posted - 2013.09.21 22:08:00 - [5] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: fine for me. Maybe you're just bad In battlefiend 3 i play with 100% of sensitivity, it is x3 or even x4 faster than 100% in dust 514. And controls is perfect, good for fine aiming and fast for turning as mouse in dust 514. Speed of turning is not linear. Small move of stick - fine aiming, large move - fast turning. In dust 514 i have KD 5+ so yes, i am very very bad , but main battle i had - against controls, its too slow and not fine. I dont like to play with 50% of my skill coz bad controls. Most gamepad users are really slow, and for them controls is not bad. But CCP force anyone to be slowpoke with no choice. In other case in dust 514 mouses have fast sensitivity. I dislike kbm and dont want play with it. I dont play dust 514 since 14th may, but i still like this game. It has no analogues. And for CCP fix this problems not so hard, but devs dont understand what to do. They know way of MMO, but shooter is very different. p.s. So if they will do dust 514 for ps4 - we will see. But i guess this game need tuning for the year or two to become game with enough quality :(
ratamaq doc 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 78	Posted - 2013.09.22 19:45:00 - [6] - Quote dalt ud wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: fine for me. Maybe you're just bad In battlefiend 3 i play with 100% of sensitivity, it is x3 or even x4 faster than 100% in dust 514. And controls is perfect, good for fine aiming and fast for turning as mouse in dust 514. Speed of turning is not linear. Small move of stick - fine aiming, large move - fast turning. In dust 514 i have KD 5+ so yes, i am very very bad , but main battle i had - against controls, its too slow and not fine. I dont like to play with 50% of my skill coz bad controls. Most gamepad users are really slow, and for them controls is not bad. But CCP force anyone to be slowpoke with no choice. In other case in dust 514 mouses have fast sensitivity. I dislike kbm and dont want play with it. I dont play dust 514 since 14th may, but i still like this game. It has no analogues. And for CCP fix this problems not so hard, but devs dont understand what to do. They know way of MMO, but shooter is very different. p.s. So if they will do dust 514 for ps4 - we will see. But i guess this game need tuning for the year or two to become game with enough quality :( I hear you dude, and I'm with you. I've even posted videos, threads, irc, tweets, and it's been the primary feedback I've given from the beginning in every survey I've taken. On my last trek to make this case, I learned a phrase. "Twitch Shooter". From what I can tell, it's a derogatory name used by FPS players with low manual dexterity who rely game limitations to handicap other players to make their FPS experience enjoyable. The rotation cap is intentional, not a lack of knowledge. You can tell by the lack of response in this thread that we are an extreme minority. Just remember, some people like NFS: some people like Mario Cart. The vast majority of the fat-n-lazy caps that come down from eve to play this game, and keep the devs ears, are of the Mario Cart breed. And many of the Console FPS transfers are ones trying to get away from "Twitch Shooters" and are hiding here. If you DO make a good case to get the cap raised to that of a normal AAA, you be met with torches and pitch forks.
dalt ud Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 319	Posted - 2013.09.22 21:04:00 - [7] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: dalt ud wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: fine for me. Maybe you're just bad In battlefiend 3 i play with 100% of sensitivity, it is x3 or even x4 faster than 100% in dust 514. And controls is perfect, good for fine aiming and fast for turning as mouse in dust 514. Speed of turning is not linear. Small move of stick - fine aiming, large move - fast turning. In dust 514 i have KD 5+ so yes, i am very very bad , but main battle i had - against controls, its too slow and not fine. I dont like to play with 50% of my skill coz bad controls. Most gamepad users are really slow, and for them controls is not bad. But CCP force anyone to be slowpoke with no choice. In other case in dust 514 mouses have fast sensitivity. I dislike kbm and dont want play with it. I dont play dust 514 since 14th may, but i still like this game. It has no analogues. And for CCP fix this problems not so hard, but devs dont understand what to do. They know way of MMO, but shooter is very different. p.s. So if they will do dust 514 for ps4 - we will see. But i guess this game need tuning for the year or two to become game with enough quality :( I hear you dude, and I'm with you. I've even posted videos, threads, irc, tweets, and it's been the primary feedback I've given from the beginning in every survey I've taken. On my last trek to make this case, I learned a phrase. "Twitch Shooter". From what I can tell, it's a derogatory name used by FPS players with low manual dexterity who rely game limitations to handicap other players to make their FPS experience enjoyable. The rotation cap is intentional, not a lack of knowledge. You can tell by the lack of response in this thread that we are an extreme minority. Just remember, some people like NFS: some people like Mario Cart. The vast majority of the fat-n-lazy caps that come down from eve to play this game, and keep the devs ears, are of the Mario Cart breed. And many of the Console FPS transfers are ones trying to get away from "Twitch Shooters" and are hiding here. If you DO make a good case to get the cap raised to that of a normal AAA, you be met with torches and pitch forks. 1. or mouse users have same limit of sensitivity as gamepad users have now. Skilled gamepad users and mouse users will unhappy in that case. 2. or gamepad users have same limit of sensitivity as mouse users have now. Who can handle high speed - set maximum sens, who cant - set lower level of sens. And all is happy. In any other cases - game is unfair and stupid. For all better point 2.


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