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meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.19 09:25:00 -
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During my 5th BCD event some of my friends believed that the OB is a little unfair. A little background story: Some of my friends are very passionate Battlefield player. The are real team-player so to say. They don't really complain about the OB, they just mentioned it. (for the team you know?)
The thing is, the whole squad is working on the OB, but as it is now only the squad leader is the one who becomes the reward for a successful strike. Now I know what a lot of you are going to say: "It's for the sake of winning rather then rewarding the leader." And that is true. But still I would like to give my friend-squad something back with every earn OB. Like killassist as a minimum or a fix amount of WP per collected OB.
What do you guys think? Should it stay like this forever or should CCP change it in some future far far away to the point where the whole squad become so sort of rewarded? |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
303
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Posted - 2013.09.19 09:28:00 -
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OB is fine, if your friends want WPs have them carry rep tools and get guardian points, if they dont, their loss. |
KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
241
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Posted - 2013.09.19 09:28:00 -
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meri jin wrote:During my 5th BCD event some of my friends believed that the OB is a little unfair. A little background story: Some of my friends are very passionate Battlefield player. The are real team-player so to say. They don't really complain about the OB, they just mentioned it. (for the team you know?) The thing is, the whole squad is working on the OB, but as it is now only the squad leader is the one who becomes the reward for a successful strike. Now I know what a lot of you are going to say: " It's for the sake of winning rather then rewarding the leader." And that is true. But still I would like to give my friend-squad something back with every earn OB. Like killassist as a minimum or a fix amount of WP per collected OB. What do you guys think? Should it stay like this forever or should CCP change it in some future far far away to the point where the whole squad become so sort of rewarded?
I agree the WP should be spread around. But what do we give EvE pilots?
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
279
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Posted - 2013.09.19 09:30:00 -
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Little workaround.
Ask you mates who need wp/sp. Promote leader. Ask again: 'guys shoot free at target' Strike
You gain: - freiendship - a lot of kill assist - you help your teammates to gain points
Not big deal at all. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1120
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Posted - 2013.09.19 09:38:00 -
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It's the benefit of being squad leader. I don't think the points should be spread around. You gotta have it separated some how.
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
561
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Posted - 2013.09.19 09:39:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Little workaround.
Ask you mates who need wp/sp. Promote leader. Ask again: 'guys shoot free at target' Strike
You gain: - freiendship - a lot of kill assist - you help your teammates to gain points
Not big deal at all.
True but when the guy you promote to squad lead doesn't know how to do them, you got a problem. I would say everyone gets 10 points per kill, in the squad, so biggere squads get more rewards!! |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
288
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Posted - 2013.09.19 09:45:00 -
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There are posts about this in features and ideas. I would link but im on a crap mobile that won't let me link |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1530
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Posted - 2013.09.19 09:51:00 -
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Who gives a damn about war points?
It's a superficial means to make worthless players feel like they actually contributed to the real purpose behind playing the game -- winning.
Only in most cases, WP's do not accurately reflect your contribution to winning. At least half of the actions giving war points were just wasting your own player slot doing pointless things that did not actually effect the overall war effort at all.
Oh, you hacked that large missile turret? Great. it killed no one.
Oh, you blew it up? Great. it was never a threat.
You killed somebody? Great! You will be rewarded with half as many war points as destroying that worthless missile turret.
And so on.
You want to fix the real problem? Get rid of war points and simply reward teams who win, and punish teams who lose. Then it won't matter who drops the gimmicky orbital which shouldn't even be getting called down by non-EVE players anyway. |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
455
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Posted - 2013.09.19 10:05:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Who gives a damn about war points?
It's a superficial means to make worthless players feel like they actually contributed to the real purpose behind playing the game -- winning.
Only in most cases, WP's do not accurately reflect your contribution to winning. At least half of the actions giving war points were just wasting your own player slot doing pointless things that did not actually effect the overall war effort at all.
Oh, you hacked that large missile turret? Great. it killed no one.
Oh, you blew it up? Great. it was never a threat.
You killed somebody? Great! You will be rewarded with half as many war points as destroying that worthless missile turret.
And so on.
You want to fix the real problem? Get rid of war points and simply reward teams who win, and punish teams who lose. Then it won't matter who drops the gimmicky orbital which shouldn't even be getting called down by non-EVE players anyway.
Nop, nothing in this text that I would like.
10P per kill for everyone would be a start. But how about the squad get the kill assist? |
m twiggz
Pawns and Kings The Superpowers
82
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Posted - 2013.09.19 10:13:00 -
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meri jin wrote:During my 5th BCD event some of my friends believed that the OB is a little unfair. A little background story: Some of my friends are very passionate Battlefield player. The are real team-player so to say. They don't really complain about the OB, they just mentioned it. (for the team you know?) The thing is, the whole squad is working on the OB, but as it is now only the squad leader is the one who becomes the reward for a successful strike. Now I know what a lot of you are going to say: " It's for the sake of winning rather then rewarding the leader." And that is true. But still I would like to give my friend-squad something back with every earn OB. Like killassist as a minimum or a fix amount of WP per collected OB. What do you guys think? Should it stay like this forever or should CCP change it in some future far far away to the point where the whole squad become so sort of rewarded?
When I run squads with corp mates we pass squad lead around every few battles or so. This gives everyone a chance to call in a few OBs, not to mention making them familiar with the squad lead commands. If your friends are really that upset about not getting WP for an OB then perhaps you could try that. Like someone else stated they're meant to turn the tide of a battle or to close out a win, not just for WP. If they were true team players they would understand that. |
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meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
455
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Posted - 2013.09.19 10:20:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:meri jin wrote:During my 5th BCD event some of my friends believed that the OB is a little unfair. A little background story: Some of my friends are very passionate Battlefield player. The are real team-player so to say. They don't really complain about the OB, they just mentioned it. (for the team you know?) The thing is, the whole squad is working on the OB, but as it is now only the squad leader is the one who becomes the reward for a successful strike. Now I know what a lot of you are going to say: " It's for the sake of winning rather then rewarding the leader." And that is true. But still I would like to give my friend-squad something back with every earn OB. Like killassist as a minimum or a fix amount of WP per collected OB. What do you guys think? Should it stay like this forever or should CCP change it in some future far far away to the point where the whole squad become so sort of rewarded? When I run squads with corp mates we pass squad lead around every few battles or so. This gives everyone a chance to call in a few OBs, not to mention making them familiar with the squad lead commands. If your friends are really that upset about not getting WP for an OB then perhaps you could try that. Like someone else stated they're meant to turn the tide of a battle or to close out a win, not just for WP. If they were true team players they would understand that.
They are not upset. But I understand what they mean. It's not about a crap ton of WP, it's more a symbolic thing. |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.09.19 10:29:00 -
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Orbital strikes are like catch up logic in racing games, so the guy at the back isn't just stuck there and is in with a chance, because the system lets someone who is lagging behind potentially catch up so as to keep gameplay fresh and unpredictable...
Wait no, they give it to the winning side, so the winning side wins even more. Predictably. My bad. |
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